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The Ending we all wanted for the Mass Effect trilogy?


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#151
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I'm a Jethro Tull human myself (there is a nonzero probability I'm a terrible person), but I do love Floyd. I like a lot of bands, but that's neither here nor there.


Hey, Jethro's awesome as well. What always makes me laugh is that they claim Thick as a Brick is a parody album, one that mocks prog rock concept albums, and that may be, but at the same time it bloody well is a glorious full-blown concept album.

I like concept albums.
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#152
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I wanted the possibility of a classic, good ending.

 

I also expected something more ''grand'' than a murderous AI. Like something out of our comprehension zone, maybe an interstellar threat that applies to multiple galaxies, hopefully paving the road for a Mass Effect 4 where we'd travel between galaxies.

 

Would have tied nicely to a new trilogy while properly raising the scale.

 

Guess that was too much asking. Oh well...



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the one thing I absolutely love is that there's no real right or wrong option, and all of the four have strengths and weaknesses.

 

Can I marry you? :D

 

 

Please tell that to Assassin's Creed before I attempt to go back in time to kill their latest BORING BORING uberhero protagonist.

 

*cough* Opinions, man.

 

I don't want to marry you anymore :(


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#154
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I'm sorry! They're good games near as I can tell! ....I just kind of hate all of the protagonists and their ultracompetent blandness.



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I'm sorry! They're good games near as I can tell! ....I just kind of hate all of the protagonists and their ultracompetent blandness.

 

I can understand that - I lost interest in Assassins Creed about 1/4 of the way into "Brotherhood" on xbox360. Didn't come back to the franchise until the last few weeks. Admittedly I'm only about halfway through, but AC4 The Black Flag (on PS4) was a breath of fresh air compared to the last I played (after getting past the first few hours of "more of the same" free running and GTA sandbox)  - especially the captaining and ship-to-ship battles in your own pirate ship. Can't say that I find the drunken "out for himself pirate captain" has been particularly typical so far... although I guess they'll probably u-turn at some point (no spoilers please).

In the meantime, the pirate-ship sim part is working very nicely for me - even made me re-watch "Master and Commander" the other day. Shame theyr're not plasma torpedos and photon cannons, but hey I can wait for elite dangerous (in black and white vector graphics I always wanted to trade my Cobra mkIII for a Python cruiser) :-)

 

To swap back to ME3 for a moment, I was kind of surprised that ME3 didn't offer the "Russell Casse" (hello boys - I'm Back!) scenario for a "Paragon" destroy that didn't wipe out the geth - I think I would have been OK with that - I guess most people that are "Paragon" at heart can better stomach self-sacrifice than the sacrifice of others. All the endings as presented basically do both - you always sacrifice your character AND compromise something else at the same time (fiddle with everyones genes, or create a dictator). With the exception of high EMS destroy which (allegedly) only sacrifices others and lets you get away with it.

 

Tangential pink floyd note - there are themes that begin in Dark Side and  surface in The Wall about the consequences of sacrifice without consideration....  Us and Them in DarkSide: "Forward he cried from the rear as the front ranks died - and the General sat and the lines on the map moved side to side"  and a lot of the setup for the protagonist in The Wall: "When the Tigers broke free. And no one survived From the Royal Fusiliers Company C. They were all left behind, Most of them dead, the rest of them dying. And that's how the High Command Took my daddy from me."

 

Admittedly, in interview some 15 years ago, Roger Waters said that he felt that some of the lyrics to dark side were a bit "lower sixth" (an anachronistic UK term describing someone in school aged ~17 - in my day lower sixth and upper sixth were the last two years of available state education before leaving school for either a job or enrollment for a university/polytechnic degree course). So I think sometimes people read more depth into their work than was perhaps originally put there. Great music though. And "Money" is still the biggest hit with the oddest time signature ever (7/4 - or 7/8 depending on your viewpoint).



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I'm alright jack keep your hands off my stack.
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I can understand that - I lost interest in Assassins Creed about 1/4 of the way into "Brotherhood" on xbox360. Didn't come back to the franchise until the last few weeks. Admittedly I'm only about halfway through, but AC4 The Black Flag (on PS4) was a breath of fresh air compared to the last I played (after getting past the first few hours of "more of the same" free running and GTA sandbox)  - especially the captaining and ship-to-ship battles in your own pirate ship. Can't say that I find the drunken "out for himself pirate captain" has been particularly typical so far... although I guess they'll probably u-turn at some point (no spoilers please).
In the meantime, the pirate-ship sim part is working very nicely for me - even made me re-watch "Master and Commander" the other day. Shame theyr're not plasma torpedos and photon cannons, but hey I can wait for elite dangerous (in black and white vector graphics I always wanted to trade my Cobra mkIII for a Python cruiser) :-)
 
To swap back to ME3 for a moment, I was kind of surprised that ME3 didn't offer the "Russell Casse" (hello boys - I'm Back!) scenario for a "Paragon" destroy that didn't wipe out the geth - I think I would have been OK with that - I guess most people that are "Paragon" at heart can better stomach self-sacrifice than the sacrifice of others. All the endings as presented basically do both - you always sacrifice your character AND compromise something else at the same time (fiddle with everyones genes, or create a dictator). With the exception of high EMS destroy which (allegedly) only sacrifices others and lets you get away with it.
 
Tangential pink floyd note - there are themes that begin in Dark Side and  surface in The Wall about the consequences of sacrifice without consideration....  Us and Them in DarkSide: "Forward he cried from the rear as the front ranks died - and the General sat and the lines on the map moved side to side"  and a lot of the setup for the protagonist in The Wall: "When the Tigers broke free. And no one survived From the Royal Fusiliers Company C. They were all left behind, Most of them dead, the rest of them dying. And that's how the High Command Took my daddy from me."
 
Admittedly, in interview some 15 years ago, Roger Waters said that he felt that some of the lyrics to dark side were a bit "lower sixth" (an anachronistic UK term describing someone in school aged ~17 - in my day lower sixth and upper sixth were the last two years of available state education before leaving school for either a job or enrollment for a university/polytechnic degree course). So I think sometimes people read more depth into their work than was perhaps originally put there. Great music though. And "Money" is still the biggest hit with the oddest time signature ever (7/4 - or 7/8 depending on your viewpoint).



I love The Wall it best describes the effects of the Berlin Wall on West Berlin. The people sacrificed their own belief systems to be able to live inside The Wall if the climbed over they also sacrificed people without consideration. Those that climbed were made into the wall and many were just left as warnings to others who tried to get freedom.

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I wanted the ending where my Shepard is thought dead by the galaxy at large, while he is found, resuscitated, and brought back to health by Miranda and a team of ex-Cerberus agents who would lay the groundwork for the new Cerberus-like group in the galaxy that Shepard and Miranda would be forming, with the purpose of getting a monopoly on Reaper tech and giving humanity a special advantage while becoming the hidden puppet controller behind the alliance and new galactic government to forward his own agenda. Eventually, we'll hit a point where the singularity is once again possible and it will be enacted with separate means than that of the Catalyst. People like Petrovsky, ex-Cerberus agents and scientists, and the Shadow Broker network (brought under Shepard's control after removing Liara) would be the framework for this organization. They do have external, alien agents as well.

 

Ashley is dead

 

Kaidan is dead

 

Garrus is dead

 

Tali is dead

 

Wrex is on Tuchanka with a renewed Genophage having been released that works progressively slower.

 

Liara is back to her life as an Archaeologist. She is unaware that Shepard is alive.

 

Miranda is Shepard's partner and significant other.

 

Jacob and his wife are both members of their organization.

 

Mordin is dead.

 

Grunt is on Tuchanka as well.

 

Jack is dead.

 

Samara is back to her life as a Justicar.

 

Morinth is dead.

 

Thane is dead.

 

Legion is dead.

 

Kasumi is occasionally involved with Shepard's organization, but otherwise doing her thing.

 

Zaeed is in semi-retirement, though still contracting for Shepard's organization.

 

James is advancing in his career, while being mentored by Shepard. His knowledge of Shepard's activities is kept limited. James is told that Shepard is working deep undercover in a Spectre mission over 'illegally used Reaper tech'.

 

EDI is dead.

 

Javik is presumed dead.

 

I like your dedication but this here makes me wonder about you....:D



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we all wanted no me i like the heroic death ending it's much better then all the ride off into the sunset Hollywood crap we have in movies and other games