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[primarch3]

If Urdnot Wreav and Eve run the clan and you cure the genophage, does Wreav still want revenge for the genophage and is it clear he will go to war once they have the numbers, I know I spoke to Eve and she thinks it is a bad idea and she would stop females breeding if wreav wanted to go to war but Wreav and the other male clans seem clear on revenge so I was not sure if it would be better if I didn't cure the genophage this time around to get the Salarian fleets, any ideas on what will happen?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Yes, he wants revenge. And it's very heavily implied that he will go to war after the Reapers are gone. If Eve lives, you get a slide showing Eve and Wreav going to war with each other.

 

It's better to not cure the genophage in that instance. Personally, I think not curing the genophage at all is a good idea regardless of who's in charge, but I really need that Krogan-Turian alliance and take what they have to offer. Granted, if the Krogan try anything, I won't hesitate to put them down for good this time.

[voteDC]

If Wrex is dead then I don't cure the genophage.

I may trust Mordin and I like Eve...I just can't trust Wreav.

[cap and gown]

Stay tuned for ME:Next! Seriously, you can't know if Wreav will go to war or not. The game ends with the defeat of the Reapers, not the beginning a new Krogan rebellion. Its up to you to decide how you think the future will turn out.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Yes, he wants revenge. And it's very heavily implied that he will go to war after the Reapers are gone. If Eve lives, you get a slide showing Eve and Wreav going to war with each other.

 

It's better to not cure the genophage in that instance. Personally, I think not curing the genophage at all is a good idea regardless of who's in charge, but I really need that Krogan-Turian alliance and take what they have to offer. Granted, if the Krogan try anything, I won't hesitate to put them down for good this time.

 

I dunno if there is anyone that seriously would save Wreav or not celebrate his death because of what he would do with the Krogan.

 

That said, I dont exactly agree with no cure ever. ME3 starts to show us just how far Wrex has come as THE leader of the Krogan. The clans are listening. The clans are following his lead, not just for survival but honestly following his lead because its what's best for them. The opposition that Wrex does have in ME3, is hugely reduced compared to 2, where he did still have some clan resistance still, to just the radical minority. Even if you dont like the idea of a cure at all, there is a much better chance of things working in your favor even after the war is over.

 

That said, if the Krogan do somehow manage to replace Wrex with someone stupid and try going to war, their numbers wont be back after the war and they would be set to get blasted into extinction if needed.

[Excella Gionne]

Didn't Wreav die? I never cure the Genophage if Wreav is the Urdnot Clan Leader....

[SporkFu]

Didn't Wreav die? I never cure the Genophage if Wreav is the Urdnot Clan Leader....

Kalros had him as an appetizer in all of my games but one, and I never cured the genophage in that one either. In my current playthrough the plan is for Wrex to not survive Virmire -- don't hate me -- so I'll pay more attention to Wreav's fate when I get there.

[Excella Gionne]

Kalros had him as an appetizer in all of my games but one, and I never cured the genophage in that one either. In my current playthrough the plan is for Wrex to not survive Virmire -- don't hate me -- so I'll pay more attention to Wreav's fate when I get there.

It saddens me to even kill Wrex. :'-( As I have made it obvious.....

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Kalros had him as an appetizer in all of my games but one, and I never cured the genophage in that one either. In my current playthrough the plan is for Wrex to not survive Virmire -- don't hate me -- so I'll pay more attention to Wreav's fate when I get there.

 

Wreav doesnt die as the Krogan Leader. Only if he's being Wrex's ****** brother.

[SporkFu]

It saddens me to even kill Wrex. :'-( As I have made it obvious.....

Me too. I like Wrex. But I'm renegading it as much as I can this time. 

[ZerebusPrime]

Sabotaging the genophage cure with Wreav in charge and Eve dead is the way to go.  Forget the saving Mordin bit.  Garrus saying "thank you" makes it worth while.

 

Also, the stats on the Salarian fleet you get... wow.  Every dreadnought has already been upgraded to combat the Reapers, complete with Reaper IFF, and that implies that the Salarians were well underway with getting ready for the invasion before the Reapers actually arrived.

[General TSAR]

Yes, he wants revenge. And it's very heavily implied that he will go to war after the Reapers are gone. If Eve lives, you get a slide showing Eve and Wreav going to war with each other.

In that case, we better hope Eve's faction triumphs.

 

But you are right, if the Krogan try any aggressive expansionism, they will be put down. I bet the STG has numerous programs and contingency plans in place for dealing with a resurgent Krogan Empire. 

 

Also, the stats on the Salarian fleet you get... wow.  Every dreadnought has already been upgraded to combat the Reapers, complete with Reaper IFF, and that implies that the Salarians were well underway with getting ready for the invasion before the Reapers actually arrived.

 

 

Always count on the Salarians to be prepared. 

[ImaginaryMatter]

Always count on the Salarians to be prepared. 

 

It's relatively easy to outlive a Salarian, but not their contingency plans.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

They basically developed a fleet of Normandy's.

Well, Dreadnought Normandy's. And you tell me they won't dominate the galaxy after the Reapers are gone.

[AlexMBrennan]

If you decision depends on Wrex being naive, you are being silly - there's a massive war going on Wrex could catch a bullet any day. 

[DeinonSlayer]

They basically developed a fleet of Normandy's.
Well, Dreadnought Normandy's. And you tell me they won't dominate the galaxy after the Reapers are gone.

Honestly, even a non-stealth cruiser would be a terrifying weapon when you think about it. Consider the speed-of-light delay. Space is big, and even if you have sensors pointing in every single direction, it'll take a long time for anything to reach them. Depending on how good their targeting computers are, a cruiser could FTL into our solar system and come to a stop, say, above the plane of the ecliptic and about, say, two light-hours from Earth, fire a few dozen rounds with a yield of a few kilotons each, and destroy as many cities in the space of a few minutes when those rounds reach their targets hours later. The incoming rounds would never be detected, and given that it would take hours for any detectable emissions from the ship (visible light or otherwise) to reach Earth (by which point they'd be long-gone), they could pop in, fire away, and leave without ever being detected, even without stealth tech.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

If you decision depends on Wrex being naive, you are being silly - there's a massive war going on Wrex could catch a bullet any day. 

 

Wrex isnt stupid enough to go into the front lines unless he must, so catching a bullet is a hard thing to do. Also the reason why the decision hinges on him, is pretty much because without Wrex, there is going to be another goddamn Krogan Rebellion.

[DeathScepter]

Wrex isnt stupid enough to go into the front lines unless he must, so catching a bullet is a hard thing to do. Also the reason why the decision hinges on him, is pretty much because without Wrex, there is going to be another goddamn Krogan Rebellion.

 

 

 

Also Wrex is much smarter than his brother Wreav. I don't dispute Wreav's strength both politically and physically but comparing him to Wrex, Wreav is a ****** and there are better leaders than Him.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Also Wrex is much smarter than his brother Wreav. I don't dispute Wreav's strength both politically and physically but comparing him to Wrex, Wreav is a ****** and there are better leaders than Him.

 

Wreav has no real power so long as Wrex is in charge to start with. Which is why he can be told to STFU with a headbutt and no shits given unless he gets even more stupid.

[DeathScepter]

Wreav has no real power so long as Wrex is in charge to start with. Which is why he can be told to STFU with a headbutt and no shits given unless he gets even more stupid.

 

good point.  Wrex has the intelligence, physical strength, Krogan charisma and political know how to be an excellent Krogan Chief and unify the Krogans for the Reaper Invasion and post Reaper Invasion.

 

In Short, Wrex is what best for Krogan for the long term. With The OP, Wrex would have put Wreav in his place if Wreav would have lived thru that arch if he still wanted revenge and pull something stupid like attacking allies.

[General TSAR]

In Short, Wrex is what best for Krogan for the long term.

Unless he gets assassinated and a radical Chief with Wrex's level of Charisma becomes de facto leader of the Krogan Empire.

 

It's best to have measures in place in case the Krogan go bonkers again, Wrex or no Wrex.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Honestly, even a non-stealth cruiser would be a terrifying weapon when you think about it. Consider the speed-of-light delay. Space is big, and even if you have sensors pointing in every single direction, it'll take a long time for anything to reach them. Depending on how good their targeting computers are, a cruiser could FTL into our solar system and come to a stop, say, above the plane of the ecliptic and about, say, two light-hours from Earth, fire a few dozen rounds with a yield of a few kilotons each, and destroy as many cities in the space of a few minutes when those rounds reach their targets hours later. The incoming rounds would never be detected, and given that it would take hours for any detectable emissions from the ship (visible light or otherwise) to reach Earth (by which point they'd be long-gone), they could pop in, fire away, and leave without ever being detected, even without stealth tech.

You'd think the fleets in system would at least be able to intercept the rounds somehow, but any intelligent dude could wreck havoc. 

But those stealth dreadnoughts, and I'd guess their cruisers and frigates would also get the tech if the dreadnoughts did, would be practically unhitable.  You could see them, but you still couldn't aim for them because without heat emissions and everything else, it would be impossible to aim because you don't know where they are. Really, the Salarians would be able to conquer the Galaxy, easily. 

[AlanC9]

Well, in the MEU planets can't be defended anyway, stealth or no.

[DeinonSlayer]

You'd think the fleets in system would at least be able to intercept the rounds somehow, but any intelligent dude could wreck havoc. 
But those stealth dreadnoughts, and I'd guess their cruisers and frigates would also get the tech if the dreadnoughts did, would be practically unhitable.  You could see them, but you still couldn't aim for them because without heat emissions and everything else, it would be impossible to aim because you don't know where they are. Really, the Salarians would be able to conquer the Galaxy, easily.

They'd have to know they were fired in the first place, and from where. The ship which fired those rounds would be out of the system again hours before the light from the event reached any sensors capable of detecting it, and those sensors would have to be looking in exactly the right place to notice it at all. The rounds themselves would be next to impossible to detect. Think of finding a black wasp in an entirely dark room measuring several cubic miles.

Physically intercepting them by putting a ship in the way to take the hit would be their only real option.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

They'd have to know they were fired in the first place, and from where. The ship which fired those rounds would be out of the system again hours before the light from the event reached any sensors capable of detecting it, and those sensors would have to be looking in exactly the right place to notice it at all. The rounds themselves would be next to impossible to detect. Think of finding a black wasp in an entirely dark room measuring several cubic miles.

Physically intercepting them by putting a ship in the way to take the hit would be their only real option.

Well, it would take a very long time for a ship to FTL into a system without a relay, and a cruiser coming through a relay would be noticed and tracked.

But a stealth dreadnought, could come through, hide in the system, and annihilate a planet without being found.