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[Al Foley]

No one forces play you as you however whether you like it or not pc is your avatar as it is you who decide in what they belive or not... so whether you decide belive in maker or not is should be your decision.No one says that protagonist have to be your incarnation ,protagonist should be person created by you (in way that you desire) and his views should be part of it.

Exactly.   And in that vein you can create almost any reason that your agnostic/ atheist player protag would invoke the name of the Maker in a situation.  Like having it be a cultural lipservice. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Exactly.   And in that vein you can create almost any reason that your agnostic/ atheist player protag would invoke the name of the Maker in a situation.  Like having it be a cultural lipservice. 

If that was "andraste a**" but not in "may the maker guide you" there is no reason for atheist pc said that... it is cleary sign of belivers. It would be hypocritical for person to said such thing... 

[DrogonTheThird]

I don't think it would make much sense if we didn't get to believe in the Creators..

[Lady Nuggins]

PC is player avatar and player should decide whether pc belive in something or not... because others belive i should is dumb argument... and i think that you are another person that want force another players to play way that you want... 

 

Why would I want to force other players to play the way that I want?  Of course I don't.  If I did, I'd start with people who kill Alistair or hand Fenris over to slavers, not people who disagree with one line of dialogue.

 

I don't appreciate you insulting me.  I am trying to explain why it's not "forcing" your character to be as deeply religious as you think it is.  I am not saying that you have to have a character who believes something.  Especially because you DO have the option of expressing disbelief there.  You just disagree with the way that you can express disbelief.

 

 

And yet it isn't god bless you only bless you (already they have other meanings) if you told god bless you it would have religious meaning without it doesn't only politeness .  And no peoples who don't belive in god don't say may jesus guide you or may allah guide you.

 

Where else do you think the phrase "bless you" came from?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Why would I want to force other players to play the way that I want?  Of course I don't.  If I did, I'd start with people who kill Alistair or hand Fenris over to slavers, not people who disagree with one line of dialogue.

 

I don't appreciate you insulting me.  I am trying to explain why it's not "forcing" your character to be as deeply religious as you think it is.  I am not saying that you have to have a character who believes something.  Especially because you DO have the option of expressing disbelief there.  You just disagree with the way that you can express disbelief.

 

 

 

Where else do you think the phrase "bless you" came from?

 

I don't know you answer me?

 

Where i insulted you? And no you don't have option to say that you don't belive in da 2 like in dao... sorry but expressing disbelief is hardly "may god guide you"

 

It doesn't matter from where came from what matters it doesn't mean anything religious and don't praise any religion it is simple as i said politeness however if you will put god before that it will have religious meaning and in fact also be politeness but reserved for belivers as it wouldn't have any sense for person that don't belive in god.

[DRTJR]

I hope that our Dalish Elf can believe/convert to Andrastian beliefs.
Because the creators can suck it.

[Ryzaki]

Oh, I don't know about that.  You're acting as though Duncan had information on the Eluvians, while it is more likely that he had seen them in Tevinter, used by Tevinter Magisters and put two & two together.  Yes, he could have asked, but magical artifacts isn't really his job; Grey Wardening is.

 

Didn't the keeper agree with him though?
 

[Lady Nuggins]

I don't know you answer me?

 

....I just did.  Right there.  I literally just told you that I'm not trying to force anybody to play anything my way.  It's not even "my" way.  I don't play an Andrastean Warden or a diplomatic Hawke.  But you seem intent on only reading every other sentence I write, so I'm done here.

 

Back on topic, I can't wait to hear the Dalish Inquisitor saying Dalish-isms out loud.  It's one thing to hear it from a companion or NPC, but it will be amazing to hear our own PC speaking the Dalish language.  I hope we get to learn more about the Dalish pantheon in this game. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

It would be pointless if they wouldn't like saying for atheist may god save us...

Well that is how people talk. Religious expressions do become part of everyday vernacular. Both sayings are associated with a specific sentiment (hope and joy respectively) and anybody can use them to express such an emotion.

[Ryzaki]

 

She just says "I hope you had a good reason for destroying it" and then Duncan tells you that he wants to talk to her in private (probably to explain he's going to make you a Warden). You're pretty much shut out afterwards.
 
The mirror itself is a mystery to the Keeper, as it is to Merrill. Even to Ariane, even though her clan had a book on Eluvian, they didn't know what it meant.

 

Ah. Thanks for the clarification

[TheKomandorShepard]

....I just did.  Right there.  I literally just told you that I'm not trying to force anybody to play anything my way.  It's not even "my" way.  I don't play an Andrastean Warden or a diplomatic Hawke.  But you seem intent on only reading every other sentence I write, so I'm done here.

 

Back on topic, I can't wait to hear the Dalish Inquisitor saying Dalish-isms out loud.  It's one thing to hear it from a companion or NPC, but it will be amazing to hear our own PC speaking the Dalish language.  I hope we get to learn more about the Dalish pantheon in this game. 

That wasn't answer before that you don't want but is seems you wanted as you argued against having choice and being railoed to culture that protagonist was raised... pretty that is desire to enforce how to play on others...

 

Well that is how people talk. Religious expressions do become part of everyday vernacular. Both sayings are associated with a specific sentiment (hope and joy respectively) and anybody can use them to express such an emotion.

Only hypocrites perhaps and belivers otherwise i doubt that.As i said saying such thing for atheist would be meaningless.