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Why do so many want to turn Gold Into Silver/Bronze difficulty?


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#51
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Well you failed, seeing as I really don't care. Not even sure why I'm even responding to you tbh.

You sought to educate me and cure me of my ignorance? :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

On-topic: people like having easy mode kits to blow off steam, I suppose.



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Gimping myself is my preferred way now days since I've pretty much mastered this game completely

#53
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I agree with the OP, sometimes I feel like a nut and sometimes I don't



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Haters gonna hate. B___hes gonna b___h. Whiners gonna whine. Ballers gonna ball. Whatever happens I don't give a f__k about 'em all!

Morale of the story:
It's a videogame, the only time you're doing it wrong; is when ya stop having' fun. Rock on, people!
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So yeah, I really don't get how folks can enjoy matches were everyone is very well setup and just melting everything with zero effort. This is not gaming to me. And I now wish that BioWare can maybe do something about it for ME4mp that rewards handicapping yourself a bit or something?

 

Yes its only challenging if you use a no equipment, AR/concussive shot avenger HS...

 

Please, i have done that and it ended up a freakishly long game when soloing or being pretty much useless other than as a detonator on team games and aggravating when clutching. Maybe you love 40 min games. Me i prefer sub 20 games when possible to do 3 matches in the free hour i have.

 

You want to play naked and challenging, go solo the game under 20 min on anything that is not Jade/Glacier/Goddess and show us a vid of your "prowess". Any team game is less challenging by way of shared aggro even if it is only for 20 seconds a wave.


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My reaction to this depends on whether or not I'm hosting a lobby. If I'm hosting, I will change the enemy to Cerberus, select the Saber Quarian Marksman and activate super saiyan mode. If not host, it will be the Talon GI with Armored Compartments instead.


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My reaction to this depends on whether or not I'm hosting a lobby. If I'm hosting, I will change the enemy to Cerberus, select the Saber Quarian Marksman and activate super saiyan mode. If not host, it will be the Talon GI with Armored Compartments instead.


You gotta do what you gotta do when playing off host from Australia.

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I often use powerful kits/weapons and my best consumables on gold.  Why?  Two reasons.

 

1.  I'm not good enough to carry the match if I need to with a lot of other kits.

2.  Sometimes its fun to just get out there and kill stuff as fast as you can.

 

I agree. When I see a dodgy looking pug lobby I normally go with my strongest kit (TGI) if I think I'm going to be clutching.

 

But i've stopped using my melee Kroguard v Geth, as it's just too easy and dull. IMHO



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Fvck  the police I do what I want... Sometimes I like being OP/maxium cheese/EZ-mode PPR GI on gold , sometimes I like to play with a Volus + Disciple. I play this game for fun, so I always take that approach (hipster, op , tryhard etc) that is the most fun for me.

 

Bonus points if someone gets butthurt cos' using OP setups... LOL.


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Meh. I play at the level I feel comfortable and I don't care what anyone thinks about me playing powerful setups. I play it like that since I enjoy that and to me, it's a game, something I play for enjoyment. If I want challenge, I already have that in my work which I like dealing with too. But games are my way to break away for a while and ROFLstomp whatever I can.

In addition, I either do duos or pug. In pugs, I don't rely on others doing well at all and therefore try to equip out my character in the best manner possible (depending on whether it is gold or platinum).



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I see a thread justifying saving high level consumables to carry em over to ME4. Playing with PUGs off host is challenging enough (tell me you'll be able to finish the circle hack with all 3 teammates down). Use low level equipments on weak weapons on solo runs to challenge yourself and post videos so we can see how much fun it is (will not watch if more than 30mins).

OT: I'm with Slimjim on this, it's up to preference. I like finishing my golds and Platinums in sub 20..if not, we're not efficient enough. I hate failing missions, some people find it exciting to spend too much time and effort then have a failed one.

If I have time, I will challenge myself to start playing all those piled up PS3 and XBOX 360 games I haven't even opened yet cuz I commited an unforgivable mistake; I tried ME3 Multiplayer 1 year ago.

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Fvck  the police I do what I want... Sometimes I like being OP/maxium cheese/EZ-mode PPR GI on gold , sometimes I like to play with a Volus + Disciple. I play this game for fun, so I always take that approach (hipster, op , tryhard etc) that is the most fun for me.

 

Bonus points if someone gets butthurt cos' using OP setups... LOL.

 

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1) Having done plenty of no-consumable games, it really doesn't make the game easier. Just faster... and sometimes viable at all. So the game is easy regardless.

 

2) There a thread on the first page for you.



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1) Having done plenty of no-consumable games, it really doesn't make the game easier. Just faster... and sometimes viable at all. So the game is easy regardless.

 

2) There a thread on the first page for you.

 

One could argue that when you kill enemies faster the game becomes easier because your survivability increases. Cyclonics are worse in that regard because they tend to make you careless. 

 

I usually use equipment because I expect to be doing the bulk of the work in pugs (and because I have 403m credits lying around, lol), except when I'm playing GI. I feel dirty using more than Incendiary Ammo I on him. >_>



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 (and because I have 403m credits lying around, lol),

 

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i kind of agree with you OP. Personally, I tend to use pretty crap consumables and generally mess about on gold, since I know that if I have even one decent player in the lobby with me, it's gonna be a breeze.

 

But why should players not be allowed to use OP kits and still think it's easy? Pretty much anyone who's soloed gold is entitled to think it's easy and besides, it just sounds like you're butthurt about not topping the leaderboard if someone uses an OP kit. Like people have mentioned, people can use whatever kit they want, but the fact remains, GOLD IS EASY!

 

I should mention, I prefer platinum to gold, since platinum presents an actual challenge...  :whistle:


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I couldn't care less what other people do.

 

So you don't look for specific matches when you go pugging or play with friends? Or don't care when everyone bleeds out and never wastes one single gel yet uses all their rockets and gels on extraction wave? Or, etc, etc.? If not then, sure. Otherwise I call BS & nice try

 

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@Silvershroud when he said he uses good cosumables/kits cause he ain't that good (and dam this mutiquote BS on here, totally made me lose his quote and copy and paste don't do crap, which is what I use to mutiquote everywhere else >_<).

 

I was gonna mention something about based on your skill level. Ultimately what I say comes down to this. Plus how much you can tolerate not always extraction or making even as far as final wave.(I'm pretty good in this last area, though sometimes not making it due to some weird pug decisions really gets to me too & I will say so on the mic. Why else would I have negativity in my X-Box live username profile, lol),

 

So for example, I'm using a kit I'm not that comfortable, I may go nuts of consumables or weapons. But taking a kit like the scrub Ghost and slapping a maxed consumables to a Carrier or Particle Rifle/incendiary/HVB combo + grenade capacity for extreme sake... Well that's that freaking nuts for Gold unless you really that much of a scrub.



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I just play what i want really.Typically gold or plat i dont even remember the last time i played bronze or silver. Mustve been around the the first year the game came out. What i hate is people that brag about how they out scored everyone or carried the whole team but were using the most cheasiest kits and weapons. 

 

Yeah, I seen this crap too. Part of my point with this thread,

 

 

 

 

Alright, I finished page 1. Now to play some ME3mp for a bit first before I come back. Just got up. Good morning BSN! Now goodbye.


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#73
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Well, once Biower added all the extra gear and stuff, platinum is pretty much what gold was.  Bronze is still a challenge for a new player because he/she doesn't have all that stuff yet.

 

Personally, I still enjoy silver a lot more than platinum.  I get to use weaker, but fun, weapons, and have more time to set up combos and such.  In the old days, I'd also chat a lot more, so e-peen wasn't exactly high on the agenda.  When I see people run around nuking spawns, it's like yeah, whatever.  Good for you.

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2) There a thread on the first page for you.


Nobody wants to try it. :/
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As a man infinitely wiser than me once said...

 

 

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