159 réponses à ce sujet

[Red Panda]

Nobody wants to try it. :/

And why not?

[Dunvi]

And why not?

because no one can give up their crutch medis.

 

i happily proudly admit that that while few kits can make me scrubbier than normal, taking away my medis is a disaster in the making.

[SlimJim0725]

because no one can give up their crutch medis.

 

i happily proudly admit that that while few kits can make me scrubbier than normal, taking away my medis is a disaster in the making.

 

I would try it if I could be bothered to play. The burnout is real.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

All 3 enemy factions put together, 4 if it's Collectors, naturally you will get variety.

 

That's the only case where I'll take plat over gold is if I'm facing collectors. Abominations, scions, and praetorians I can handle, it's just those bloody captains and troopers that give me trouble.

[megabeast37215]

I would try it if I could be bothered to play. The burnout is real.

I already did it.. and Me0 always wants to play with scrubby grills.

[capn233]

because no one can give up their crutch medis.

 

i happily proudly admit that that while few kits can make me scrubbier than normal, taking away my medis is a disaster in the making.

 

"No Medigel" difficulty modifier would have been awesome.

[Terminator Force]

The weakest I went today was when I apparently inadvertently forgot to put consumables on the TGI w/ GPR.  Still did ok vs mooks though, not so hot v armor obviously.

 

Otherwise, I am not usually too keen on playing annoying setups when I am hopping around random games.  For instance, a couple of games prior I had the pleasure of finishing up several waves of Condor - Geth with TGI w/ Phaeston (a pattern... I was grinding Commando waves).  When you start talking about absurd nonsense like Level 1 Volus w/ Shuriken it is only sort of fun if you are in a premade with friends.

 

My limit for random games is common weapons, not really terrible character + common crap weapon.  At some point it is also a little inconsiderate to the rest of the team to take a complete waste of space configuration since even if you aren't dying you aren't going to do all that great of damage.

 

Look, your missing the point. I'm only saying to go as low as your skill level and comfort level allows. Not saying you have to be totally ridicules or do it all the time even. I'm just saying to set it up so that's it's not a total cakewalk. I don't know why this concept is so hard to understand and get? Nor why folks can't figure it out on their own? Hence why I here trying to spread awareness to it because it does make the game much more fun + big time increases the games replay value. No way is making the game way too easy the best for keeping you playing long term wise. It's just leads to stop playing altogether much faster.

 

That, and this game gives you so many ways to make this game way too easy for Gold difficulty. Crazy stuff like Cyclonics IV should only be saved & used for Platinum if at all. Again, unless you really feel you need them to not totally suck.

 

 

Feeling the pressure from enemies by not being able to totally stop everything right in their tracks ASAP & instantly on Gold really does change the game for the better.

[megabeast37215]

Even when I gimp myself.. I still have 6 missiles.. and I can't bring myself to not use them every.. single.. game.

[MaxCrushmore]

I understand OP. You make some valid points. I almost never use IV consumables for Gold matches .. too overkill.

 

Heck, even using AP II ammo on an infiltrator with an above average weapon is almost too powerful ..

[Terminator Force]

i kind of agree with you OP. Personally, I tend to use pretty crap consumables and generally mess about on gold, since I know that if I have even one decent player in the lobby with me, it's gonna be a breeze.

 

But why should players not be allowed to use OP kits and still think it's easy? Pretty much anyone who's soloed gold is entitled to think it's easy and besides, it just sounds like you're butthurt about not topping the leaderboard if someone uses an OP kit. Like people have mentioned, people can use whatever kit they want, but the fact remains, GOLD IS EASY!

 

I should mention, I prefer platinum to gold, since platinum presents an actual challenge... 

 

Well the thing is, if there were a difficulty level that just took Gold and added more enemy Health/shield/Armour to balance it out better for weapons like the Harrier & high level consumables. I would be playing that. And so would most too, is the sad part since many seem to not like the Platinum Boss Rush. So for these people instead of complaining about the Platinum Boss Rush and how it's no fun, why can't they figure out they can get a higher challenge via handicapping themselves a bit? Most people here seem to be far more then capable of playing Gold np by the totally OP total destruction vids I see posted all the time?

 

 

Also, for score is not how I play, honestly. But naturally, just like everybody else, if I do end up in a match where I barely get to kill anything, then yeah, obviously that's not what I or anyone else can call fun.

 

I asked a pug totally new to Gold once if he minds it when people totally go nuts with OP setups and just kill everything ASAP or more match their setups a bit like a was doing for a couple of waves I've played with him. He said "No, I don't mind." So I went for a pretty OP enough setup and did my best to kill everything & totally dominating the score wise. I didn't even have to ask. His silence, score, and him just carelessly walking around said it all. So yeah, playing the way I play does make it more fun for the new pugs that don't have access to better stuff yet too. More reasons to play this way. Yay. Thank you, David Diablo.

[Koenig888]

I understand OP. You make some valid points. I almost never use IV consumables for Gold matches .. too overkill.

 

Heck, even using AP II ammo on an infiltrator with an above average weapon is almost too powerful ..

 

This is why all my level IVs are at 255 and most of my level IIIs are > 240.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Platinum. Krogan. CSMG/Acolyte. Build in sig.

[Caineghis2500]

As a man infinitely wiser than me once said...
 
 Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!

Fail

[capn233]

I decided I wanted to turn Gold into something by taking a level 4 ammo for the last random game I played.  It was on my CS Human Soldier.  It was a good thing that I used this setup since I had to complete several waves.  I didn't fire a shot from my secondary, fwiw.

[Terminator Force]

What?! Someone understands?! Oh, wow, I'm not alone! : (Batarian smiley)

 

 

Another thing I like is seeing folks playing and doing well with kits that aren't too brainless like. Instead of, say, a pro with Grenade Capacity V + spawn nuking them like crazy. Which can be just as bad as a total scrub with missile glitching, lol. Seeing someone properly head shot with an Inf many left right and center, & on a console via gamepad, is something I very much look up to. Plus is a long term goal to work on to get better.

 

 

I alsp enjoy making weaker weapons & kits work on gold by not just loading up on high level consumables too. Like Locust with Turian Sol both set for maximum or close to headshot damage. Geth Engineer with Geth Pulse Rifle, Collector with CAR. Bar Sent is very awesome with a Kishock to me. Etc, etc. I mean, A Geth Pulse Rifle can do an amazing job on a Geth Inf for Gold, think of the overkill some of the other weapons do in this guys hands, lol.

 

 

 

 

Ultimately, if the next MEmp had something that did a better job at encouraging others to repeat the challenges, like say a very small cash bonus should be enough, then that would greatly solve this issue. Plus result in way more varied & interesting matches.

[Terminator Force]

For the last game I was looking for, the first lobbies were packed with OP setups as Vaguard with Atlas chewer N7 Piranha/Highest level consumables for everything, etc. Now was I was going enter them lobbies with a level 16 character & Phaeston/level 1 consumables? lol no. And there was not need too. Luckly the third lobby weapon sets looked just right enough. It was set to Geth, but I wanted to play already. Anwho, us pugs extracted all, I came in second with score ranging from 6,7,8, & 12k (first place went to a grenade class, aka, pylon chick). And yeah, it was great fun. It's really nice to feel the pressure from enemies, instead of the game being a race to find anything left alive to shoot at like in lol Silver & Bronze. Which is also the reason why when them folks come to Gold finally, they have to learn about cover unless they end up in an OP lobby.

 

In the end risking not extracting or even making it past wave 3 due to weaker setups & suspect quality of the pugs is of no major concern to me. It's all about finding them fun matches that aren't 100% super easy street. And this is how all should be thinking once they hit around 1000 hours of gaming. But alas, it's not what I see when I see folks in lobbies with max or close to max manifest...  (Though sometime folks with max manifest sadly really need all the help they can get for Gold still)

[Deerber]

Fail

No one wanted to know anything about your brain.

[megabeast37215]

Thanks for telling me what I'm "supposed" to think.

I agree with you except on the equipment.. I have 255 of most level III gear and tons of level IV gear, and I'm going to use it.

[Creator Limbs]

As a man infinitely wiser than me once said...

 

 

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you done good son

[MaxCrushmore]

Ah, how the BSN times have changed

 

Every second thread used to be bitching about people not using consumables and non-OP setups for Gold ...

[robarcool]

But, but banshees are too tough to deal with and so, one needs to slap on at least level 1 consumables on gold.

[capn233]

Ah, how the BSN times have changed

 

Every second thread used to be bitching about people not using consumables and non-OP setups for Gold ...

 

It didn't really change.  I am sure if you took a poll most on here would rather the rest of the team actually equip useful setups and consumables.

[Cyonan]

I use a variety of setups because I find it enjoyable to do so, sometimes these setups are the ones that BSN thinks are "lolopcrutchkit" and sometimes they're the underpowered ones.

 

I've always found the argument of handicapping yourself in order to get any semblance of difficulty to be a bit silly. Why should I limit myself when the game could legitimately stand to be a little bit harder?

 

Of course if I'm playing these days I'm probably hosting, which means I can make the game harder if I feel the need to do so.