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[Divine Justinia V]

Yes, that's why I consider it a possibility but has doubt

 

lol well that's not how you originally made it sound

[AresKeith]

lol well that's not how you originally made it sound

 

I probably should've used a different word than suspect lol

[DontWakeTheBear]

Anyone knows if we will find out more about Duncan's history in DA:I? Really liked that character =P

I'm not sure what more needs to be said about him. Between DA:O and "The Calling" you learn about a huge portion of his life, coupled with the fact that he's confirmed dead and that this protagonist will have no connection with him, there's no reason to go into any details over him. It's possible that the Bearded Warden or Alistair will mention him in passing but I don't really think so, and even if they do it'll be nothing of substance. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't know why, that's literally a 1/1000 chance. Do you not realize how many bearded Grey Wardens there more than likely are?

Yeah chances that we meet every companion (almost) from previous game were even lower much lower still....

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah chances that we meet every companion (almost) from previous game were even lower much lower still....

Yeah. The chances that we meet every companion, or almost every companion, from previous games were even lower but still...

[Divine Justinia V]

Yeah chances that we meet every companion (almost) from previous game were even lower much lower still....

 

what are you talking about

you're comparing meeting companions from either a. a blight or b. fleeing the blight/side quests

 

to meeting the same man that was subject of a story 10+ years ago.....

 

taking into account that there's probably hundreds of grey wardens with beards.

[AresKeith]

what are you talking about

 

It's tks

[Former_Fiend]

Wasn't Duncan stated to be an only child in The Calling?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I've always found The Calling has some inconsistencies with Duncan's background, though. 

 

Riordan says they went through the Joining together, and that he was 'Just as he is now' back then, serious, and with a full grasp of how important their work was, etc. Yet...in The Calling, he's a free-spirited, rebellious womanizer who really isn't too fond of being a Warden. 

 

Hm. 

[Former_Fiend]

The Calling had a lot of problems in general.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yet, he also subtly alludes to his background described in The Calling if you attempt to pickpocket him and fail. 

 

It's almost as if they couldn't decide. :S

[Han Shot First]

Regarding the theory that the bearded Grey Warden might be the hard-drinking Warden named Grigor that Alistair mentioned...

 

Does anyone recall the context in which that came up? I remember it as Alistair talking about Wardens that fell at Ostagar, but it has been awhile, so maybe I'm not remembering that correctly. Are we sure Grigor wasn't at Ostagar?

[Divine Justinia V]

Regarding the theory that the bearded Grey Warden might be the hard-drinking Warden named Grigor that Alistair mentioned...

 

Does anyone recall the context in which that came up? I remember it as Alistair talking about Wardens that fell at Ostagar, but it has been awhile, so maybe I'm not remembering that correctly. Are we sure Grigor wasn't at Ostagar?

 

I'm almost positive it was when the Warden asked him about the order and he said how there were good times as well

[Killdren88]

I subscribe to the theory that Vivienne is Duncan's Daughter. Of course it holds little merit considering all we have is that Duncan shared a one night stand with a mage in The calling which took place 9:10 and the time of the Inquisition is 9:30s and Vivienne looks to be around the proper age. That's about the only evidence there is. Highly unlikely, but still possible.

[KC_Prototype]

Alistair said he was from Highever. If so, why didn't my Cousland know him personally before DA:O?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Alistair said he was from Highever. If so, why didn't my Cousland know him personally before DA:O?

 

Probably hasn't been around there since before the Cousland Warden was born. 

[The Qun & the Damned]

I subscribe to the theory that Vivienne is Duncan's Daughter. Of course it holds little merit considering all we have is that Duncan shared a one night stand with a mage in The calling which took place 9:10 and the time of the Inquisition is 9:30s and Vivienne looks to be around the proper age. That's about the only evidence there is. Highly unlikely, but still possible.

actually, the Inquisition is refounded around 9:40, around the time Cassandra interrogates Varric about Hawke and when things spiraled out of control in with the Circle and the Empress. It would be a kicker if Vivienne was Duncan's daughter though, but question, how long was Duncan a warden for before the events in "The Calling" I have yet to get there in terms of books

[TobiTobsen]

I'm almost positive it was when the Warden asked him about the order and he said how there were good times as well

 

I think it was a combination of what you said and what Han said. AFAIK Alistair was talking about the good times with the guys who fell with Duncan at Ostagar.

[LOLandStuff]

They're brothers from another mother and different father.

[TheKomandorShepard]

what are you talking about

you're comparing meeting companions from either a. a blight or b. fleeing the blight/side quests

 

to meeting the same man that was subject of a story 10+ years ago.....

 

taking into account that there's probably hundreds of grey wardens with beards.

That chances meeting every companion (not to mention other characters) of previous protagonist in different country by another protagonist are even lower and that meeting same peoples in different country again (dai) are pretty much ridiculus and yet we have that in case...

 

How big Thedas is so we keep meet same peoples again and again in different countries...

 

I don't see problem if devs think that meeting many previous character that were meet by previous protagonist...

 

Cameos in da 2 are best example of that...

[Spectre slayer]

Wasn't Duncan stated to be an only child in The Calling?

No, he has a sibling who survived but we know next to nothing about them or if they're still alive.
 

Regarding the theory that the bearded Grey Warden might be the hard-drinking Warden named Grigor that Alistair mentioned...
 
Does anyone recall the context in which that came up? I remember it as Alistair talking about Wardens that fell at Ostagar, but it has been awhile, so maybe I'm not remembering that correctly. Are we sure Grigor wasn't at Ostagar?

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He was talking about the times, the good times and bad how he would never get to see them again, said that he remembered this one warden he could out drink them all, from the way he was talking about him he died.

If he was stationed in Fereldan then he had to have gone to Ostagar which means he would most likely be dead.

 

Alistair said he was from Highever. If so, why didn't my Cousland know him personally before DA:O?

They weren't born yet, Duncan's parents moved from Highever to Orlais when he was very young.

[Sifr]

 

It's still lame that Bioware deliberately had his body not there at Ostagar only to go "Lolno, he's dead."

 

I figured that Duncan's body not being found was because the Architect sent some of his followers to scour the battlefield for dead Wardens and they managed to squirrel Duncan's remains away. It could have even been at the same time that Riordan was at Ostagar to identify their bodies, interrupting their search and forcing the Architect's Darkspawn to only be able to take one or two corpses back, Duncan amongst them.

 

But if we do see anything about Duncan in DAI, might be nice to get to go to Highever and see if Alistair did manage to get a memorial put up in his honour. If he's not the King or a Grey Warden, it'll probably not be there, but I can't see him forgetting if he took the throne.

[Han Shot First]

He was talking about the times, the good times and bad how he would never get to see them again, said that he remembered this one warden he could out drink them all, from the way he was talking about him he died.

If he was stationed in Fereldan then he had to have gone to Ostagar which means he would most likely be dead.

 

 

I'm playing through DA:O again and I just recently got to the part where you can ask Alistair if there is a way to call for support from other Wardens. Alistair says he doesn't know how to contact Wardens from other lands, which also must mean that he has never been to any Warden fortress outside of Ferelden. Since Alistair had never been to Warden holdings outside of Ferelden, it also means that Grigor must have been stationed in Ferelden. Which of course also means that he died at Ostagar.

 

The theory that the bearded Warden might be Grigor is a fun one, but I think I'd have to consider it very unlikely at this point.

[Han Shot First]

I figured that Duncan's body not being found was because the Architect sent some of his followers to scour the battlefield for dead Wardens and they managed to squirrel Duncan's remains away. It could have even been at the same time that Riordan was at Ostagar to identify their bodies, interrupting their search and forcing the Architect's Darkspawn to only be able to take one or two corpses back, Duncan amongst them.

 

 

It is also possible that the darkspawn devoured Duncan's remains. When your character regains consciousness in Flemeth's hut, you can press Morrigan for details of the aftermath of Ostagar, after she warns that those details are unpleasant. She says that she saw darkspawn feasting on the slain.

[Sifr]

I've always found The Calling has some inconsistencies with Duncan's background, though. 

 

Riordan says they went through the Joining together, and that he was 'Just as he is now' back then, serious, and with a full grasp of how important their work was, etc. Yet...in The Calling, he's a free-spirited, rebellious womanizer who really isn't too fond of being a Warden. 

 

Hm. 

 

Of course, no-one is really going to talk about their fallen life-long friend by mentioning all the mad things they did a young man, are they?

 

"I remember one time Duncan chugged an entire cask of ale, we didn't see him from three days, until we discovered that he'd been arrested for crashing a wedding, whilst wearing stockings and suspenders and singing the Antivan national anthem... When it was discovered that the stockings and suspenders belonged to the recently de-flowered daughter of the Captain of the Guard, he very nearly had us exiled from Ferelden all over..."

 

Better for him to simply say that Duncan was always uber-serious, eh?

 

It is also possible that the darkspawn devoured Duncan's remains. When your character regains consciousness in Flemeth's hut, you can press Morrigan for details of the aftermath of Ostagar, after she warns that those details are unpleasant. She says that the saw darkspawn feasting on the slain.

 

True, we do know that the Darkspawn practice cannibalism even amongst themselves, so it's not hard to imagine that a tainted individual like a Grey Warden would be off the menu. She also mentions seeing people being dragged away, presumably women to be turned into Broodmothers, but that doesn't preclude the Architect's forces being around to nab some bodies.

 

As the one who started the whole kerfuffle, I could see him being interested in Ostagar and probably sending some of his followers to check it out, to tell him how the battle fared. He was grateful for the Warden for ending the Blight after all, since having an Archdemon and the entire horde active wasn't in the best interests of his plan.