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I don't know if this is the good part of the forum to post this but anyway. I'm looking for the Ascension project logo, i can't find it myself. I Iooked all over Grissom academy but couldn't find it. It would be the base of a new mass effect tattoo i want.

 

 



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I don't think it has a logo (unless it is on the uniforms of the Grissom kids). Grissom Academy does have a logo, though. But I never noticed a different one for the Ascension Project.

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Jack mentions on the last cutscene of grissom academy (when they fly away on the cerberus shutles) that she will treat the kids on ink, like an ascension project logo and a unicorn for Rodriguez.

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Least you know what a Unicorn looks like :)

I think the Ascension project was mostly a covert Cerberus project described in books, I don't know if they described a logo in detail. If they had one then it makes sense that Jack would know it, but I don't think we (the fans were actualy informed about it's looks) It's been a while since I read the book though.

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Least you know what a Unicorn looks like :)

I think the Ascension project was mostly a covert Cerberus project described in books, I don't know if they described a logo in detail. If they had one then it makes sense that Jack would know it, but I don't think we (the fans were actualy informed about it's looks) It's been a while since I read the book though.

 

Ascension is a purely Alliance project.



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 There's no known image of the logo itself. Sorry! =/



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Ascension is a purely Alliance project.


The Ascension project I belive was a Cerberus atempt to "hijack" an Alliance project. Least that's how I remember it from the book, also Talis Quarian Captain mentions the Ascention project as a Cerberus project. IT's admittedly been a while since I read the book.

Cerberus was using experimental drugs to experiment on children especialy Gillian who was the mainfocus at Grissom academy, they had one single agent doing the job. The rest were Alliance emplyed teachers who knew nothing about it.

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The Ascension project I belive was a Cerberus atempt to "hijack" an Alliance project. Least that's how I remember it from the book, also Talis Quarian Captain mentions the Ascention project as a Cerberus project. IT's admittedly been a while since I read the book.

Cerberus was using experimental drugs to experiment on children especialy Gillian who was the mainfocus at Grissom academy, they had one single agent doing the job. The rest were Alliance emplyed teachers who knew nothing about it.

 

Wrong again. I played through that mission last night. The Scientist on Pragia suggested they attempt to hijack the Alliance's Ascension project to continue their research. Odds are that didnt happen because the riot got just about everyone killed besides Jack.


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Tsunayoshi is correct. The Ascension Project is 100% Alliance. It is the more PC successor to the BAaT project. Cerberus infiltrated it, and were subsequently exposed.

@tsunayoshi- they did infiltrate it in the books. Grayson played a major role in that.

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Tsunayoshi is correct. The Ascension Project is 100% Alliance. It is the more PC successor to the BAaT project. Cerberus infiltrated it, and were subsequently exposed.

@tsunayoshi- they did infiltrate it in the books. Grayson played a major role in that.

 

I was referring to the Pragia team specifically when one of the scientists suggested they infiltrate and hijack the project.

 

I cant speak for what is in the books as I'm not very familiar with Revelation since its been years since I read it, and havent read any of the others.



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Oh gotcha. Yeah I doubt the Pragia team did it. TIM just probably went forward with the idea.

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Oh gotcha. Yeah I doubt the Pragia team did it. TIM just probably went forward with the idea.

 

Like I said. Most of them died before they could try thanks to the riot and Jack.



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And the ones that didn't were executed by TIM. At least, according to TIM who is not exactly a reliable source.

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Thanks guys! I would have liked it if  Bioware had put more information about the Ascension project in the games. Also as a player who choses the adept class above all the others i feel a bit left out, it's more focused on the soldier class then all others. The Ascension project is the succesor of BAat unlike the BAat project it's more centered on development and keeping them safe as the BAat project was pure for militairy use. Now i need to go and search for new ideas for a tattoo that has a bit of Jack and a bit of the Mass Effect series. Maybe the tattoo that Shepard gets from Jack in the Citadel dlc.



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Here's the logo:

 

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Least you know what a Unicorn looks like :)

I think the Ascension project was mostly a covert Cerberus project described in books, I don't know if they described a logo in detail. If they had one then it makes sense that Jack would know it, but I don't think we (the fans were actualy informed about it's looks) It's been a while since I read the book though.

 

 http://forum.bioware...s-in-2160-2170/

 

I believe what the writers imply is that Cerberus was always the ones pushing human technological and political progression, but almost always behind the scenes. Originally part of the Alliance (though black ops), it became more and more independent until (mostly) splitting away from the Alliance in very recent years.

 

Pragia wouldn't have been directly rubber stamped by any particular Alliance officer, sure. But they also would have allowed Cerberus to do what it wanted in terms of biotic experiments, as long as the Alliance isn't blamed for it and has denyability.

 

So yeah, I'm pretty damn sure that Conatix was also, even if indirectly, an arm of Cerberus trying to encourage biotics in humanity.

 

BAaT was corporately created, with Alliance backing. It took the survivors of the eezo crash exposure (*cough* possibly done by Cerberus itself, to use for biotic experiments), and tried to forcibly train them.

 

Grissom Academy was Alliance run, but with clear corporate backing and civilian support.

Ascension Project was a specific project, that we *know* had Cerberus spies. But it was a more nuanced approach towards biotic experiments than both Pragia and BAaT.

 

My point here is that it doesn't matter what is claimed to be in charge of human-run program, when it comes to biotics. Cerberus had a role in it. Even if it was just a single scientist at times, pushing for more extreme training or research.

 

"Cerberus is humanity" seems like an automatically villainous statement, but if we logically look at how the story's been told since at least ME2 (but including ME1 material), then Cerberus pretty much *is* humanity. At least as it stands during the trilogy.

Shepard himself wouldn't have had his ships, his crews, his own life, his technology, a whole lot of things, if it wasn't for Cerberus. Even the Alliance since the First Contact War could have retreated into itself like the Batarians had done, but I believe it is implied that Cerberus influence kept the Alliance and Earth governments/religions/cultures from doing so, and instead pushing for interaction with the Citadel. Even as the Alliance declares Cerberus to be terrorists, they're still often allowed to be on their own business, Shepard is given leeway by an Alliance admiral (or two), and there is an atmosphere of sympathy about Cerberus in ME2. This only sours in ME3, when Cerberus takes more blatantly extreme acts and the wider public is able to compare them to the Reapers that they're fighting against.

 

Head vs Heart.


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Holy mother of necros...



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Holy mother of necros...

 

2 months is a necro but not nearly as bad as others.. (like those posting 2 years after)



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I think you mean the logo that is visible on the collar (right side) of the male uniforms?



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Holy mother of necros...

 

This is barely a necro. Two months is still an acceptable period to post in a thread.

 

If it's over 4 to 6 months, then it's a necro.


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lol, we really need ME4 or at least some legit stuff to chat about. I think ME3 has ran it's course. 

 

Hudson, give us more ME4 stuff. More! MOAR!!!!!



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lol, we really need ME4 or at least some legit stuff to chat about. I think ME3 has ran it's course. 

 

Hudson, give us more ME4 stuff. More! MOAR!!!!!

 

Why? It'll just end up being another self-indulging 90 second promo with 15 seconds of gameplay footage, 15 seconds of Edmonton, and 60 seconds of Casey Hudson sitting on a chair in 'deep thought', while being filmed in black and white.


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Why? It'll just end up being another self-indulging 90 second promo with 15 seconds of gameplay footage, 15 seconds of Edmonton, and 60 seconds of Casey Hudson sitting on a chair in 'deep thought', while being filmed in black and white.

 

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