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[EkhidnaDrakaina]

I am glad she chose to leave the Chantry at least. Could you imagine if she chose to take up Elthina's mantle? Eugh.

Probably the only character in DA who I really saw no likable qualities in. Just an awful woman.

[Chala]

Nope, two arrows.  One was in the chest and when she looked up at the Qunari, the next shot was right in between the eyes:

 

 

...

Goddamint

[Knight of Dane]

But why bother? She is a minor insignificant character. Why bother with giving her screen time, when that time could be better spent given to an actually important character?

Why bother making a game? It's not like it matters. Except it does to some people. I would think it cool to see her appear, although it's not crucial for me.

 

Fans like those sorts of small links, and Petrice is one of the people I would suspect people would give a pass in regards to the "small world" argumnent.

 

Sophia Dryden was in DA2, why bother with her?

 

Simply because she's content. That she's minor doesn't have to mean anything.

 

Also, I don't view her as minor. If she hadn't pushed so adamantly on the Qunari the events of Act 2 would either not have taken place or been delayed. She was a important component in anti-Qunari Kirkwall.

[Sifr]

If she does return in Inquisition, I submit that the Inquisitor must have this dialogue option...

 

[The Sauce of Awesome]

If she does return in Inquisition, I submit that the Inquisitor must have this dialogue option...

 

This. I have no idea what this is...but this.

[sunnydxmen]

maybe if your necromancer yo can kill her and bring her back as your zombie slave.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Why bother making a game? It's not like it matters. Except it does to some people. I would think it cool to see her appear, although it's not crucial for me.

 

Fans like those sorts of small links, and Petrice is one of the people I would suspect people would give a pass in regards to the "small world" argumnent.

 

Sophia Dryden was in DA2, why bother with her?

 

Simply because she's content. That she's minor doesn't have to mean anything.

 

Also, I don't view her as minor. If she hadn't pushed so adamantly on the Qunari the events of Act 2 would either not have taken place or been delayed. She was a important component in anti-Qunari Kirkwall.

Sophia Dryden is an example of exactly why they shouldn't try to cram every minor, useless and insignificant character they can into the game. Petrice has played her part. Instead they could show characters that might actually still matter in the larger scheme of things.

[leadintea]

I loved Mother Petrice and I think it'd be lovely to see her again, but as others have said, her survival rate would probably be rather low seeing as how only aggressive Hawke could really make her survive. Still, I thought she was a great minor antagonist and I love faith driven characters a lot (Sebastian, Elthina, and Petrice are pretty much some of the few DAII characters I really loved), so I'd be ecstatic to see her in DA:I.

[Knight of Dane]

Sophia Dryden is an example of exactly why they shouldn't try to cram every minor, useless and insignificant character they can into the game. Petrice has played her part. Instead they could show characters that might actually still matter in the larger scheme of things.

Hm, I disagree. I think there needs to be a balance. A game that takes itself too seriously is no fun. Small things like that give them flavour.

[Grieving Natashina]

This. I have no idea what this is...but this.

It's from the show How I Met Your Mother.

[katerinafm]

I could see her giving orders to a bunch of fanatic red templars, similar to the previous game. I don't know how we could just stumble on her in our travels though.

[Sifr]

I could see her giving orders to a bunch of fanatic red templars, similar to the previous game. I don't know how we could just stumble on her in our travels though.

 

If she hooked up with the Red Templars, a Red Lyrium affected Petrice could be intriguing. Sort of a Meredith 2.0.

[phantomrachie]

I never play Aggressive Hawke so I never even knew she could live until recently. If she does return it would have to be as a pretty unimportant character or one that is easily replaced 

[Divine Justinia V]

no

[Shadow Fox]

Good, good I need a new test subject.

[AresKeith]

Naw, she got boom head shot

[Shadow Fox]

maybe if your necromancer yo can kill her and bring her back as your zombie slave.

Uh

[The Ascendant]

The Qun demands her death.

[KaiserShep]

People just can't appreciate drama anymore. It's all action movies and headshots these days.

 

I admit, the bloodthirsty barbarian in me revels in gruesome deaths for lots of characters. I think Game of Thrones is only making it stronger, especially after Tyrion's little speech this last episode.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If she does return in Inquisition, I submit that the Inquisitor must have this dialogue option...

 

That lady looks familiar. 

[Dean_the_Young]

I'm honestly surprised Petrice isn't spared more often, or at least a smidgeon more popular. On a meta-level, if not a personal level.

 

Consider these points. She opposes the Qunari, an expansionist culture with open designs of world conquest who have extremely anti-western cultural practices including extreme anti-individualism, an extremely rigid and mandatory ideology, and anti-family policies. The enemy of my enemy can apply here- that the Arishok did not plan to invade Kirkwall during DA2 is a matter of timing, not societal intent.

 

Point two is that she is openly dismissive of a religious institution that many people with extreme anti-religious tendencies already wish to destroy, and she is openly subverting it and anticipating schism going forward if she lives. For anyone who wants to diminish or destroy the Chantry by breaking it apart, she is exactly the sort of extremist who would do so. That she herself is a zealot should be irrelevant for anyone serious about the goal: after all, even if she 'wins' in a schism, a schism would weaken the Chantry and make it ever easier to break again or overcome. If she loses, she and a lot of extremists get burned and, with a little luck, discredit extreme devotion. For anti-Chantry players, Petrice is a useful tool of self-destructive zealotry.

 

Point three is that Petrice is... actually amazingly ambivalent about two of the other big social issues of Thedas, of mages and city elves. Petrice is a religious fanatic, but never expresses any antagonism or opposition to the groups. She's not automatically pro-Templar and anti-mage, and she's not above working with elves. Presumably she's not above working with believers of any race. This opens up a significant range of possibilities for her to gather a power base if she does live to pursue a schism. She may not be for any group in particular, but if it could be justified to her she could plausibly throw her lot in with any Andrastian group and give them popular support and some religious legitimacy. Especially city elves and mages, both of whom are largely Andrastian and both of whom have grievances with the entrenched Chantry-supported status quo. Through her fanaticism, Petrice could possibly be a reformer as well.

 

 

So Petrice could be a case of enemy of my enemy, a tool to weaken the Chantry, and even a possible ally of oppressed people with precious few allies. Why is it so hard to find anyone who spared her, even if they don't like her?

 

 

I blame choice structure design- had the choice to side with Petrice against the Qunari been available to everyone, a lot of people wouldn't be ignorant that it even exists. As it is, it is limited to Angry Hawke's- probably one of the least popular in tone and content, especially with its heavy emphasis on companion rivalry over friendship. Instead of being cast as a decision to pick a side against the Qunari, which even anti-Petrice players might be able to rationalize, it has a big requirement of already being the sort of Aggressive/retaliatory Hawke who would already have announced opposition to Petrice a couple of times by now.

 

 

There's also a good deal of forced relationship. Sort of the inverse of the canon buddy with Garrus, Petrice is literally a character you are written to dislike. Not just in terms of expected player impact- religious zealotry is kryptonite to western approval ratings- but nearly all Hawke's dialogue are written in such a way to be antagonistic with her. It is almost impossible to agree with Petrice on anything, even if you the player would care to, because Hawke is so busy expressing resentment that Petrice hired them in Act 1 expecting them to die (clearly cause for a multi-year grudge), or calling her names, or otherwise saying she's utterly wrong in her actions and goals. Even Angry Hawke gets in on the act- there is no consistent or thematic trend to defuse tensions or agree with her, like 'Angry Hawke kinda agrees with her', but you have to bounce between them to keep any kind of civility.