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The problem is no matter what BioWare does its going to impact their reputation, from not having a good collector's edition, not having enough, being too expensive, and I could probably list more. There is no magic bullet to not have a negative impact on their reputation anymore because people seem to be looking for a reason to be upset.  I rather have these issues with a collector's edition then feel like they want me to buy multiple versions of it to get all the content like Ubisoft does with Assassin's Creed and now Watch Dogs.


I'm curious - have your plans to buy the CE been waylaid by it just not being available in your region?

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I'm curious - have your plans to buy the CE been waylaid by it just not being available in your region?

 

No, but the limited factor of the Inquisitor's Edition has prevented me from getting one for they were completely sold out before I got home from work the first day they were being offered.



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Hmmmmm. Well We should have expected it. I mean EA is from the parallel Earth where one Euro=one USD. That's why they "unable to deliver" (as opposed to won't) their  deluxe editions  to us:  hard to deliver it cross-dimensionally I would guess.



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still no word if the Deluxe Edition will be available in others shops that aren't GameStop?


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still no word if the Deluxe Edition will be available in others shops that aren't GameStop?

 

I thought it was, its just some countries for some reason that hasn't been said won't have access to the PC version.  They will have to upgrade through Origin in the future.



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I thought it was, its just some countries for some reason that hasn't been said won't have access to the PC version.  They will have to upgrade through Origin in the future.

 

mmmh....I usually keep an eye on Amazon (I'm looking for the PS4 version) but for now I see only the standard version.  :( I can't afford the box with all the goodies, but I'd like to at least have the digital bonuses (like the Hart and the "unicorn") But I don't like GameStop. <_<



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mmmh....I usually keep an eye on Amazon (I'm looking for the PS4 version) but for now I see only the standard version.  :( I can't afford the box with all the goodies, but I'd like to at least have the digital bonuses (like the Hart and the "unicorn") But I don't like GameStop. <_<

 

I just searched the Canadian version of Amazon and they have the PS4 of the Digital Deluxe version.



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I just searched the Canadian version of Amazon and they have the PS4 of the Digital Deluxe version.

...just checked the Italian version. niente (nothing). I'll wait and see. But thank you =] . Now I know is just the Amazon in my country that is probably late. =_='''



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No, but the limited factor of the Inquisitor's Edition has prevented me from getting one for they were completely sold out before I got home from work the first day they were being offered.


Right, so people are miffed for legitimate reasons.

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...just checked the Italian version. niente (nothing). I'll wait and see. But thank you =] . Now I know is just the Amazon in my country that is probably late. =_='''


Apparently Amazon has not everywhere exclusive rights for the Deluxe Edition.

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Right, so people are miffed for legitimate reasons.

 

I never meant to imply that people don't have a reason to be frustrated at the situation, what I meant is no matter what BioWare will do there are going to be people that are going to be frustrated with something they do.  Using this situation to allow for more then just selling at Gamestop they might have to change the Inquisitor Edition to have less physical items, so then there are going to be people that consider the Inquisition Edition bad because it didn't have enough physical items, but then the people that are left out by such a limited run won't be frustrated because it would be easier to mass produce.



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Chances are Gamestop paid for an exclusivity deal, much like stores like Best Buy and Wal-Mart do for other games for their shelves.

 

It's a business move that has little to do with BioWare, more to do with EA and marketing. Not much can be done about it either. 


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Apparently Amazon has not everywhere exclusive rights for the Deluxe Edition.

:crying: I can only hope, or resygn myself and buy it from GameStop (thing I hate) :pinched:



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:crying: I can only hope, or resygn myself and buy it from GameStop (thing I hate) :pinched:


I don't speak italian, so I don't understand what the website says, but the fact that they're selling it, seems to imply that it's exclusive to them.
From what I know, in other countries the DE is sold by only one retailer :(

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Any updates on the status of the PC CE in EU since yesterday?



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No :(



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I think you might be forgetting that only a tiny fraction of people even want to buy the super-rare Inquisitor's Edition at $170 - and that there's a Deluxe Edition as well as a Standard Edition that are available in many if not most places.

 

How can this "cause serious damage to Bioware's already fragile reputation"? By definition the people who care about, or will miss out on, the limited edition are a tiny proportion of their customers. A tiny proportion of their customers who are already invested in the game, too - otherwise why would they even want to pre-order it before any reviews? If the manufacturing run of the Inquisitor's Edition was as small as they're indicating, then there wouldn't have been enough copies for all the people who wanted it anyway. 

 

I understand that the people affected will be upset - and this is entirely justifiable - but it's hardly helpful to broaden your outrage to include people who in all likelihood could not care less about what the company does with its super-limited editions. This is not the stuff of internet campaigns, petitions and Extended Cuts.

 

As for why the company agreed to an exclusivity deal with Gamestop - they got paid for it. The income from the deal must be more than they'd be losing by not offering it somewhere else, or else there's a reciprocal marketing arrangement with DA:I being promoted in-store.

 

If it didn't make business sense, they wouldn't be doing it this way.

While it may be "a tiny fraction of people" affected by not being able to purchase a special, limited edition of a game due to the selected distribution company not selling certain copies in certain countries, that's still a number of people who may very well choose to never purchase another BioWare game again. Then that "tiny fraction of people" start telling their gaming family and friends about their negative experience in trying to purchase a BioWare game, and so on and so on. *shrug* I suspect that there are more people aware of this issue than just "a tiny fraction of people" who are unable to purchase a specific version because the selected world-wide distributor isn't actually able to deliver world-wide! One thing I learnt a long time ago, while there may be a small number people posting about things like this on forums there's usually a lot more who won't bother simply because they've already lost interest and moved on to whatever other new game is fast approaching.

 

It may well be that this is down to decisions made by someone at EA but what people see is that this is a BioWare game therefore it's BioWare that takes the blame when things go wrong, no matter what it is that goes wrong! Sadly BioWare is no longer a company, it's now just a name that's owned by EA and EA just want to get as much out of their investment as they can while they can. When all is said and done I know there's no-one at either BioWare or EA who will care one way or another about such decisions resulting in the loss of a small number of fans.

 

Just to be clear, I have absolutely no interest in creating a "internet campaigns, petitions" or anything else, I'm just one person expressing how I feel about this poor marketing decision that is negatively affecting some people.

 

As it stands currently, no-one in the UK can purchase the retail edition of either the Deluxe or Collector's Editions, and it's not just the players in the UK who have that problem. Breaking news here folks: Not everyone wants to buy a digital version of a game! So please stop telling people that if they can't purchase a retail copy they can still purchase a digital version!


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While it may be "a tiny fraction of people" affected by not being able to purchase a special, limited edition of a game due to the selected distribution company not selling certain copies in certain countries, that's still a number of people who may very well choose to never purchase another BioWare game again. Then that "tiny fraction of people" start telling their gaming family and friends about their negative experience in trying to purchase a BioWare game, and so on and so on. *shrug* I suspect that there are more people aware of this issue than just "a tiny fraction of people" who are unable to purchase a specific version because the selected world-wide distributor isn't actually able to deliver world-wide! One thing I learnt a long time ago, while there may be a small number people posting about things like this on forums there's usually a lot more who won't bother simply because they've already lost interest and moved on to whatever other new game is fast approaching.

 

It may well be that this is down to decisions made by someone at EA but what people see is that this is a BioWare game therefore it's BioWare that takes the blame when things go wrong, no matter what it is that goes wrong! Sadly BioWare is no longer a company, it's now just a name that's owned by EA and EA just want to get as much out of their investment as they can while they can. When all is said and done I know there's no-one at either BioWare or EA who will care one way or another about such decisions resulting in the loss of a small number of fans.

 

Just to be clear, I have absolutely no interest in creating a "internet campaigns, petitions" or anything else, I'm just one person expressing how I feel about this poor marketing decision that is negatively affecting some people.

 

As it stands currently, no-one in the UK can purchase the retail edition of either the Deluxe or Collector's Editions, and it's not just the players in the UK who have that problem. Breaking news here folks: Not everyone wants to buy a digital version of a game! So please stop telling people that if they can't purchase a retail copy they can still purchase a digital version!

Just because you don't want to buy the digital version of the game doesn't mean that it is not a valid option for some one else. The point is, that is your decission to not go digital even though it is the only option for you. Others may not realise that a digital version is available and by telling people, as most do, by stating that a digital version is available, may help people to get the game they want.


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Just because you don't want to buy the digital version of the game doesn't mean that it is not a valid option for some one else. The point is, that is your decission to not go digital even though it is the only option for you. Others may not realise that a digital version is available and by telling people, as most do, by stating that a digital version is available, may help people to get the game they want.

I understand that, while it is an option for some it should NEVER be the only option because then it isn't actually an option is it? But I guess I was being much too subtle about the point I was trying to make!


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I understand that, while it is an option for some it should NEVER be the only option because then it isn't actually an option is it? But I guess I was being much too subtle about the point I was trying to make!

It is always an option. You have two choices don't you. One buy the digital, two don't buy the digital. Either way it is your option to choose.



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:crying: I can only hope, or resygn myself and buy it from GameStop (thing I hate) :pinched:


We're on the same boat.. I haven't pre-ordered it yet here in Rome, cause there's no Deluxe Edition to add to the box for PC.
Considering I hate GameStop as well, I completely understand you..

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still no word if the Deluxe Edition will be available in others shops that aren't GameStop?

It's already available on Amazon in more than one country AFAIK.



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I understand that, while it is an option for some it should NEVER be the only option because then it isn't actually an option is it? But I guess I was being much too subtle about the point I was trying to make!

 

In ten, fifteen years, it will likely be the only option considering the pattern of cloud gaming, dedicated servers, and online distribution deals.

 

If you can get a physical copy, good for you. But I guarantee were in the final generation or two with carbon copy disks to play with. 



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In ten, fifteen years, it will likely be the only option considering the pattern of cloud gaming, dedicated servers, and online distribution deals.

 

If you can get a physical copy, good for you. But I guarantee were in the final generation or two with carbon copy disks to play with. 

 

Its really hard to say, for the digital distritbution of music has been around for over a decade now and physical media still sells well enough to have stores for it and music files are much smaller compared to a video game which leads to quicker downloads. One of the reasons why I don't think its going anywhere is the limitation of bandwidth in some areas because the delivery methods are old and in need of improvement, but its not happening.  



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Its really hard to say, for the digital distritbution of music has been around for over a decade now and physical media still sells well enough to have stores for it and music files are much smaller compared to a video game which leads to quicker downloads. One of the reasons why I don't think its going anywhere is the limitation of bandwidth in some areas because the delivery methods are old and in need of improvement, but its not happening.  

 

And yet, physical sales of PC titles is way down, but digital sales are up. The reason mostly is due to distribution services offering, frankly, cheaper deals overall for digital copies of the games themselves.

 

The music industry has shown a bit of durability that the gaming industry does not really have, namely because of convenience and the fact that the clientele are very tech savy to recognize the relative easy of downloading vs physical representation. Why lug a disk for a car radio when you can plug n a USB? You get more songs that way and its automatic shuffle. 

 

Digital distribution is going to be the norm for both PC and console in the future, while physical disks, if any exist, will be a collectors item at best. In regards to super collector editions like this one, it might become a novelty that's going to be in very limited quantities, which is probably why were seeing the lack of physical copies of this edition overseas