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[Allan Schumacher]

It's no wonder since, Dice, Bohemia and Activision constantly fill the market with their products. But even there i can see some... let me cal it "signs of  fatigue".

BF4 ain't so much different from BF3 and i already mentioned the problems i got with CoD. 

It makes me wish to tell them: "guys, no offense but... please take a rest for let's say 3 years and do some other project. After that, come back with brand-new ideas!"

I mean, those "realistic" military shooters are mostly the only thing  we get on PC since years (and no, i refuse to play shooters with controlers on a console. To slow, to unprecise for me, i want a mouse). That's why i'm also looking forward to the next wolfenstein (i could really use a straight action-arcade shooter once again... and without Unreal or Half life  this is my only hope).

 

The reason why i took space-combat as an example is exactly because of this "content starvation". Because of Chris Roberts extreme success on kickstarter and the attitude of many big developers and publishers.

For more than 10 years no AAA-Title in that genre was developed  because of this "lack of demand" from fans. But Star citizen showed, there is a demand.

SOOOO my question is: Aren't the higher-ups actually underestimating the fans and stating things without any proof (pushing the fault at us)?

 

Earlier in this thread you made a comment about how we shouldn't completely ignore fans, because we have to give fans what they want as a business.

 

 

Here's the quote:

Well as long as feedback is put into consideration and has a bit weight on some develpment aspects or processes, it's ok.

After all, the fans are the ones who buy the game.

 

 

Modern military shooters will stop being so common when they stop setting sales records.  It could be argued that by focusing on those types of games, they are giving customers what they want.

 

I won't dispute that big companies are possibly too data driven and sometimes that comes to the detriment of fans of particular titles.  It's why I like the smaller scale games as well as digital, and why I'm all in favour of reducing barriers to entry in the game market.

[JCFR]

Therefore my question: Do publishers and developers really know, what fans wish for without asking or any kind of feedback?

Can they really say: "Let's make a CoD 30 od BF9 with the same features. We always made profit with that" although they would make as much or maybe even more margin with a Half Life 3- kind of game or an Unreal-like?

 

You said yourself Bioware made also games like shattered steel (even though i'm more a fan of mechwarrior) or things lage BG and KotoR - which also have many fans. Why are those then neglected?

[Oasis_JS]

I agree in part with you, that's why it's called (suggestion) because no developer is obliged to publish all the suggestions given by the fans.

It is obvious that there will be very absurd ideas or good ideas, I think it is important at least to note the vision and thoughts of fans one way or another will always have something that artists go fishing of public, a good example is Mass Effect 3, one excelente game but ... imagine if Bioware were ignored fans and not made an alternative ending.

 

read this article:

http://gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-ending-response-bioware-casey-hudson-benk-138337/

 

I love the Mass Effect franchise, I would continue playing but still would break my heart to see all the dedication of the staff being judged poorly by the critics.

going off topic.. Yeah I enjoy the ending of ME 3 =D a lot. hehe. hey i read sometimes.. theirs books out there that have that kind of ending. i find it fine^^  hehe.   

the  alternative ending....it was just an add on..to explain what happen after sherpad gave her life to stop the reapers  never an alternative ending. ^^   that's why i like a lot about .. fan suggestion help give.. more to the ending. but i would never tell them to change the ending. I was happy to see my sharped went all out. giving her life to finally.. fine peace .  she was fighting for all those races and geth to finally work together . face this threat..that was going to destroy them all. also to prove the repears wrong..about organics ^^