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is arc pistol a mediocre weapon for power intensive classes?


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#26
Kislitsin

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Only scrubs who can't aim need accuracy boosts on the Talon. 

 

So you can hit more enemies per one shot? It's a shotgun after all. Using Talon on accuracy boosting class is like using scope attachment on sniper rifle.

 

OT: Claymoar is the best castor weapon, no contest.


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TheNightSlasher

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So you can hit more enemy per one shot?

 

OT: Claymoar is the best castor weapon, no contest.

Arc pistol > claymore  :whistle:



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Kislitsin

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Arc pistol > claymore  :whistle:

It doesn't even sound like a real weapon, man. It sounds like a freaking tazer.



#29
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It doesn't even sound like a real weapon, man. It sounds like a freaking tazer.

Who needs sound effects anyway? I can headshot things far away with pinpoint accuracy and still have my CDs at a level where I can create combos at will. Something the claymore can't even dream about doing. Yes, I don't like the claymore outside of 1-2 classes.  :whistle:

 

inb4CDsareoverrated



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on the topic of Arc pistol vs Claymore.

Wraith is better than the Claymore.

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IK it provides very high fire power with relative light weight, but the problem is that the recoil from a charged shot is enough to knock the reticle off the lock-on to the enemy, and you have to aim again before you could use your powers. 

 

Also am I the only one that always charge before shooting an arc pistol?

The Arc Pistol gives you three choices.  

 

#1:  Headshot = dead.  No need to fire a power at them anyways.

 

#2: Use the pistol to prime FE/TB, in which case, if you aim for a low bodyshot, the recoil doesn't pull you out of lock-on, leaving you free to fire a power immediately.

 

#3:  Fire the power before you release the trigger.

 

And yes, you should always be charging before shooting.  The only time I don't is for swarmers.

 

 

Who needs sound effects anyway? I can headshot things far away with pinpoint accuracy and still have my CDs at a level where I can create combos at will. Something the claymore can't even dream about doing. Yes, I don't like the claymore outside of 1-2 classes.   :whistle:

 

inb4CDsareoverrated

 

I'm the same.  My Krogans get the Claymore, occasionally some other soldiers.  That's it.  I love it on them, but I have no desire to use it on anything else.  I just wish I could keep pistol amps in stock...



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Who needs sound effects anyway? I can headshot things far away with pinpoint accuracy and still have my CDs at a level where I can create combos at will. Something the claymore can't even dream about doing. 

My TSol doesn't think so.



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My TSol doesn't think so.

Apart from TSol, Destroyer, HM Geth trio and QMS that can boost accuracy, the remaining 53 characters think so :P

 

I stand by what I said. Claymore is an extremely good gun - I am not denying that. But saying that it is the best 'caster' gun is something I can never ever agree with. 

 

And on topic of TSol, my TSol uses Saber. And it is one of the two guns IMO that sound better than claymore. Marsman saber sound is  :wub:



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It doesn't even sound like a real weapon, man. It sounds like a freaking tazer.

Think of it as revenge against those bombers that won't let you reload your claymore.



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Wraith #1 OP


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Apart from TSol, Destroyer, HM Geth trio and QMS that can boost accuracy, the remaining 53 characters think so :P

 

I stand by what I said. Claymore is an extremely good gun - I am not denying that. But saying that it is the best 'caster' gun is something I can never ever agree with. 

 

And on topic of TSol, my TSol uses Saber. And it is one of the two guns IMO that sound better than claymore. Marsman saber sound is  :wub:

 

Claymore being the best caster weapon is a long standing joke from the time where weapon supremacy came about. The idea to begin with was to push the point that you don't need to cast powers if you have a Claymore. Back when that all started it was pretty true...100% shield gate and pre-tech explosion era.



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And on topic of TSol, my TSol uses Saber. And it is one of the two guns IMO that sound better than claymore. Marsman saber sound is  :wub:

My TSol uses AT-12

And MMed Raider rawr is AWESOME!!!! (though I like sabre's sound as well)

 

What is the second gun? Oh, you gonna say venom....



#39
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Claymore being the best caster weapon is a long standing joke from the time where weapon supremacy came about. The idea to begin with was to push the point that you don't need to cast powers if you have a Claymore. Back when that all started it was pretty true...100% shield gate and pre-tech explosion era.

TNS missed the initial whines about claymore adepts of the first era.

 

Actualy, we didn't have AF and bubbles, grenades were not buffed and were quite scant, so weight was a big issue for more kits. And, as you have mentioned, no techsplosions.



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The Talon is the best caster weapon. Take that Arc pistol fanboys!!!

Scrub #1

Wrong again scrub! It's clearly the CSMG!

Scrub #2

Arc pistol is the best weapon in the game imo and I cant say I notice any recoil after a charged shot. You can charge a shot and use a power at the same time so your always doing damage

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TNS missed the initial whines about claymore adepts of the first era.

 

Actualy, we didn't have AF and bubbles, grenades were not buffed and were quite scant, so weight was a big issue for more kits. And, as you have mentioned, no techsplosions.

 

Those were pretty fun times. That huge divide between the console players and PCers because of reload cancel... I had a Wraith VIII after just a couple months (5 upgrades in one weekend ;)) and had mastered reload hiding with Reave, so I just laughed away despite everyone saying their Wraith III's were underpowered. 

 

What I think is interesting is the Claymore took the role of both the modern Arc Pistol and the Reegar for some time. It was a weapon that dealt lots of damage on any kit like the Arc Pistol, but it also changed the way most kits were played like the Reegar now. It actually ushered in the "casters don't need 200% cooldown" notion. Things were interesting when a single maxed UR was uncommon.


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My TSol uses AT-12

And MMed Raider rawr is AWESOME!!!! (though I like sabre's sound as well)

 

What is the second gun? Oh, you gonna say venom....

Nope, raider. ;)

Favorite gun != favorite sounding gun

 

And as for the pre-balance change debate, I wasn't there and I didn't even play the game back then. Claymore may very well have been the best caster gun back then. But the way the game is right now (with modified FEs and a much larger pool of guns and ammo), it is no where near the being the best caster gun IMO.



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So you can hit more enemies per one shot? It's a shotgun after all. Using Talon on accuracy boosting class is like using scope attachment on sniper rifle.


Exactly. With the Talon, you can kill the entire spawn at once.

Scrub #1

You've started feeling yourself a bit too much since you maxed your manifest....

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Exactly. With the Talon, you can kill the entire spawn at once.

 

Still second class to the Revenant.


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Exactly. With the Talon, you can kill the entire spawn at once.
You've started feeling yourself a bit too much since you maxed your manifest....


Please...I was calling you a scrub after the first game we played.

Ps were going to have a rematch in Street Fighter soon...
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Please...I was calling you a scrub after the first game we played.Ps were going to have a rematch in Street Fighter soon...


Bring it!
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The Claymore is not a caster weapon. If it doesn't give 140% or more cooldown, it's not a caster weapon IMO.
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It's good.. not as good as BSN makes it out to be but it has a lot going for it surely. There are a lot of other weapons I'd rather take.. like the CSMG.


That's true. Although very powerful, I feel it's overrated around here.

Anyway, there's only one true caster weapons, and it's the CLAYMOAR :D

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So you can hit more enemies per one shot? It's a shotgun after all. Using Talon on accuracy boosting class is like using scope attachment on sniper rifle.


What? I don't follow you here. Are you saying that accuracy boosts so not benefit the Talon? Because if you're saying that, then you're dead wrong...



That said. Slasher... 1vs1 me babby with a caster and an arc pistol... I'll bring my FQE and I'll show you how a real "caster" deals with enemies :devil:

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I'll bring my FQE and I'll show you how a real "caster" deals with enemies :devil:


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