One person was calling the devs immature and unprofessional just for including a character they may not like in the game.
If doing it for sole purpose of fans not liking that character, then yes it would be
But like you said he said it as a joke, but the point still stands
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No, I'm not. You are referring to Liliana's song. That dlc is about why she left the bard life behind, not how she became the hand of the divine. That dlc never established she became a hand of the divine. It was not stated she became a hand until DA2. They put her into a role that to established her importance, it was not that she was important for the plot before.
Read my post above. Dorothea is the Divine Justinia. That's all I'm saying. These connections were already being built up that far back.
That's because Justinia hadn't taken office yet. But she's the Reverend Mother in Leliana's Song. Dorothea.
They've been setting up this story before DA2.
But the story is about her becoming a Lay sister, not her becoming Justinia's agent. Meeting her means nothing outside of established how she escaped.
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But the story is about her becoming a Lay sister, not her becoming Justinia's agent. Meeting her means nothing outside of established how she escaped.
Do you really think they're just winging it when they write this stuff? Writers tend to plan stuff like this beforehand.
OK, maybe the Mass Effect writers don't. But I think I'll give some more credit to the DA team. 
Read my post above. Dorothea is the Divine Justinia. That's all I'm saying. These connections were already being built up that far back.
Read my last post. The dlc is about why Liliana became a lay sister, not about her becoming and agent of Justinia.
That's because Justinia hadn't taken office yet. But she's the Reverend Mother in Leliana's Song. Dorothea.
They've been setting up this story before DA2.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Read my last post. The dlc is about why Liliana became a lay sister, not about her becoming and agent of Justinia.
I never said it was about that. I'm just saying the relationships and connections were already being formed. Jesus.
Do you really think they're just winging it when they write this stuff? Writers tend to plan stuff like this beforehand.
OK, maybe the Mass Effect writers don't. But I think I'll give some more credit to the DA team.
Their's also hint that the story also is a lie or the truth of it change abit but regardless it is about her becoming a Lay sister. Liliana did not even have any interest of becoming a bard again until you harden her in dao. I dough she was Justinia's agent till after da:a
She only turns smug if you try to take the list.
And Her goal was to show how a convert see the qun. An angle out side of just the people born into it.
And all she does is talk about how great and wonderful the Qun is, but ignores or completely sidesteps all the difficult questions (basically refusing to acknowledge all of the reasons why the Qun is so disliked by fans)
^ Right there, smug ass***e
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Their's also hint that the story also is a lie or the truth of it change abit but regardless it is about her becoming a Lay sister. Liliana did not even have any interest of becoming a bard again until you harden her in dao. I dough she was Justinia's agent till after da:a
I would agree with that. Justinia isn't even "Divine" until much later.. I'm not saying she's Divine in Leliana's song.
One person was calling the devs immature and unprofessional just for including a character they may not like in the next game.
You can say me, you don't need to be passive aggressive lmfao. And please do not speak for me and say that was my reasoning, because you left out the part where you specifically said he would do it to "troll us". Funny how you left that out though, right? 
I would agree with that. Justinia isn't even "Divine" until much later.. I'm not saying she's Divine in Leliana's song.
You're wasting your time lol.
I never said it was about that. I'm just saying the relationships and connections were already being formed. Jesus.
And nothing connect her character to becoming her agent in that dlc. That's a leap of logic. Liliana was not even interested to becoming a bard till you harden her.
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And nothing connect her character to becoming her agent in that dlc. That's a leap of logic. Liliana was not even interested to becoming a bard till you harden her.
I don't know whether to believe her anymore. She's good at lying.
And her amulet is "Seeker's Circle" in DAO. She might already be working for them, for all I know.
And all she does is talk about how great and wonderful the Qun is, but ignores or completely sidesteps all the difficult questions (basically refusing to acknowledge all of the reasons why the Qun is so disliked by fans)
- Anders: But you think it's all right for them to sew up a mage's mouth or cut out his tongue?
- Tallis: Right this second I do, yes.
^ Right there, smug ass***e
1.With Ander's nearly everyone says that to him so that's a bad example.
2.And yes I know she does not directly talk about the conflicting part of the qun(But everyone on your team already is a hypocrite one way or another anyway.)
Her character is about finding a middle ground with the qun. It's already obvious she is unconformable with the conflicting side of the qun. That conflict is also part of her character.
You can say me, you don't need to be passive aggressive lol. And please do not say that was my reasoning, because you left out the part where you specifically said he would do it to "troll us". Funny how you left that out though, right?
I don't know whether to believe her anymore. She's good at lying.
And her amulet is "Seeker's Circle" in DAO. She might already be working for them, for all I know.
As I point out before their hint that the story in the dlc had fact changed from what really happened.
Do you really think Gaider would do something like that? Seriously?
Didn't the "troll us" part clue you in that it was a joke?
And I didn't mention any names because I don't like doing so.
That's not the first time it has been mentioned so obviously I didn't think it was a joke. I've heard that quite a few times regarding that character in-particular. But regardless, I love how you left that key part out of and completely changed my point lmfao weird how you feel comfortable doing that but not "naming names".
Alright, I'm out. OP, I apologize.
It was not stated she became a hand until DA2. They put her into a role that to established her importance, it was not that she was important for the plot before.
I am not too sure about that. Leliana made a statement at the post coronation ceremony (if she was not an LI) where she would be heading an investigation into Darkspawn and most who know the lore of DA, knows how the DS came to be. That's if the PC makes the correct dialogue choice. That could have been the lead-in to her becoming the left hand. If the PC make another dialogue choice under the same plots states, she'll also mention that she would be heading back to Orlais for a time (paraphrasing).
And nothing connect her character to becoming her agent in that dlc. That's a leap of logic. Liliana was not even interested to becoming a bard till you harden her.
Not true but i agree that she wasn't working for "divine" before however she was instrested becoming a bard again difference is that u leliana
She could be fine if she's not treated as the main character.
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As I point out before their hint that the story in the dlc had fact changed from what really happened.
Fair enough.
If I understand correctly, you're saying they retroactively gave her plot importance, and had all these little connections in older stories make it look intentional?
I simply disagree. I think they had an outline at least.
But there's no way of knowing.. so I won't press it further.
You can say me, you don't need to be passive aggressive lmfao. And please do not speak for me and say that was my reasoning, because you left out the part where you specifically said he would do it to "troll us". Funny how you left that out though, right?
You're wasting your time lol.
To be fair, it could have been me that the other poster was talking about as well.
I also posted that the notion of including a character for the sake of spite is childish, which I maintain is the case.
Not true but i agree that she wasn't working for "divine" before however she was instrested becoming a bard again difference is that u leliana
living in an illusion.Pretty much her dialogue regardless show she is very intrested in her previous life pretty on mine that is reason behind "vision" .If you won't take her to your party she will leave and come back to orlais be bard accident?Those who romanced leliana should know that divine send for her so it wasn't accident she was intrested in her previous life divine gave her that back difference is that u leliana will have excuses.
Dude, It you harden her you already know that. But that does not defer the fact she was given plot importance. Any bard could of taken her place in da2. They even went out of their way to revive her just to be the hand of the divine. Really, they literally made her more important then she really is and this come from a person who likes her character.
*Points to Liliana.
You really don't think he won't do it.
Who the hell is "Liliana"?
Dude, It you harden her you already know that. But that does not defer the fact she was given plot importance. Any bard could of taken her place in da2. They even went out of their way to revive her just to be the hand of the divine. Really, they literally made her more important then she really is and this come from a person who likes her character.
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