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[leaguer of one]

I am not too sure about that. Leliana made a statement at the post coronation ceremony (if she was not an LI) where she would be heading an investigation into Darkspawn and most who know the lore of DA, knows how the DS came to be. That's if the PC makes the correct dialogue choice. That could have been the lead-in to her becoming the left hand. If the PC make another dialogue choice under the same plots states, she'll also mention that she would be heading back to Orlais for a time (paraphrasing).

Sorry but that does not mean that would lead her to becoming the hand of the divine suddenly.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Dude, It you harden her you already know that. But that does not defer the fact she was given plot importance. Any bard could of taken her place in da2. They even went out of their way to revive her just to be the hand of the divine. Really, they literally made her more important then she really is and this come from a person who likes her character.

If you want argue about her death sure i agree with that i disliked that resurrection... however if you want argue that she shouldn't be important well because (?) it isn't in case she owes divine her life and in fact it is divine who pushed "change" in leliana it is no wonder that leliana is blindly loyal to her and that feature makes her very good minion for divine after all do you think that finding loyal bard is so easy? Her role is justified her resurrection not...

[leaguer of one]

Yeah, as I've said before there are unused voice files in the game that indicate Cassandra was supposed to stand in for Leliana if she died. But obviously it was scrapped, and they revived her from the dead so she could appear in every playthrough.

Thank you. More proof to my point.

[leaguer of one]

If you want argue about her death sure i agree with that i disliked that resurrection... however if you want argue that she shouldn't be important well because (?) it isn't in case she owes divine her life and in fact it is divine who pushed "change" in leliana it is no wonder that leliana is blindly loyal to her and that feature makes her very good minion for divine after all do you think that finding loyal bard is so easy? Her role is justified her resurrection not...

You can argue that for the unharden version but not the harden version. And even then their's the issue if the unharden version even want to become a bard. Sorry but they really could of used any bard to be the hand of the divine. I don't see a reason why  they picked Leliana.

[Tommy6860]

Sorry but that does not mean that would lead her to becoming the hand of the divine suddenly.

 Who said suddenly? I simply stated what she said at the PCC at the end of DA:O. The timeline between that and her appearance in DA2 was 10 years (IIRC), so...

[Star fury]

Thank you. More proof to my point.

Your point would be a little bit valid if you defended your character without bashing another. Besides, why do you derail this thread talking about everything except Tallis?

[The Baconer]

1.With Ander's nearly everyone says that to him so that's a bad example.

 

Yes, even though she tries to convert him, any questions he might have about her religion are irrelevant, because he's Anders.

 

2.And yes I know she does not directly talk about the conflicting part of the qun(But everyone on your team already is a hypocrite one way or another anyway.)

 

Her character is about finding a middle ground with the qun. It's already obvious she is unconformable with the conflicting side of the qun. That conflict is also part of her character.

 

Tue quoque? Really?

 

If she can't adhere to the strict code of the Qun, then maybe she should spend less time preaching it.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You can argue that for the unharden version but not the harden version. And even then their's the issue if the unharden version even want to become a bard. Sorry but they really could of used any bard to be the hand of the divine. I don't see a reason why  they picked Leliana.

unharden or not divine still saved her life and doesn't mean that leliana will not be blind see marjolaine in leliana song.Simple U leliana back to her job with excuse to do "maker work" when h leliana backs because she wanted back to her job and help her friend...

 

And yep u leliana wanted become bard she told many times us that she likes what she was doing and don't mind play with someone feelings even if she is u...

 

Well we can argue why they picked zevran as crow that will join to us not any other crow simple leliana had motive and divine wanted loyal minion for dirty work and as they have common past and leliana is blinded by her well...

[leaguer of one]

Your point would be a little bit valid if you defended your character without bashing another. Besides, why do you derail this thread talking about everything except Tallis?

I'm not bashing another character. I'm pointing out how contradictory the arguments on Tallis favoritism by the writers comparing her  with an  character that actual has favoritism by the writers.

[leaguer of one]

Yes, even though she tries to convert him, any questions he might have about her religion are irrelevant, because he's Anders.

 

 

Tue quoque? Really?

 

If she can't adhere to the strict code of the Qun, then maybe she should spend less time preaching it.

1. She clearly is not trying to convert him.

2. Do you not understand how contradictory the Qun is? That would be like saying because Sten did not try to control your Mage warden like a qunari Saarbas it proof he is not a follower of the qun.

[leaguer of one]

I understand favoritism pissing people off.

 

I guess I've grown a tolerance though, because of Liara. There's nothing equivalent to that in DA. So I'll be grateful.

Nothing equivalent. Leliana can die in one game and comes back from the dead in the next...... That's not favoritism?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Nothing equivalent. Leliana can die in one game and comes back from the dead in the next...... That's not favoritism?

Anders did that (funny thing it was fanservice), oghren did that and flemeth did that rather bad writing than favoritism  but still di*** move on their side.

[leaguer of one]

He may not be, after all. He's corrupted the minute he gets in our group.

 

Considering how vicious Avvaraad acts in DA2, I think Sten has gone soft.

And yet they made him the new Arishok. I can say that about the old Arishok with a mage Hawk as well. You can say what you want about the Qun but the more intelligent of them clearly move with in reason.

[leaguer of one]

Anders did that , oghren did that and flemeth did that rather bad writing than favoritism  but still di*** move on their side.

Ander's Had a clear explination. Oghren also is an example of character favoritism. Flemeth was stated from before the time you even try to kill her that death for her was just an in convince and she'll come back after anyway. 

[leaguer of one]

He might be the new Arishok, but he could be reforming their society because of his time in Ferelden. And feeding them cookies.

Which is another point that it's not outrageous for someone under the qun to try and find a middle ground.

[Wulfram]

He might be the new Arishok, but he could be reforming their society because of his time in Ferelden. And feeding them cookies.

 

Reforming their society isn't the Arishok's role.

[TKavatar]

It's still not close. At least you got the momentary satisfaction of killing Leliana once
 
And she didn't barge in your room or was a prerequiste on missions. Or basically deluded herself into thinking you were in love.
 
Nope. Leliana is not close. Thank the Creators.

Varric is a prerequisite in the deep roads quest, is he favoured by the writers too? Huh, It would seem that way considering he's appearing a companion again in DAI.

[leaguer of one]

Reforming their society isn't the Arishok's role.

But he does have control over how the military acts and reacts.