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[leaguer of one]

Marry sue because she makes everyone retarded to make her look her smart pretty much in the end we can say that we can kill her but all she says "are you sure" and we don't pretty much marry sue that bends world to her will (not to the point god-mode sue but normal marry sue)

 

2.LoL there is no any info you dude beside writen by player entry in wiki pretty much she said she want deliver justice to anders and she wanted break the law that says the can't touch grey warden mage and even go as far to kill grey warden commander so what she wanted kill grey wardens to stroke in the head plase.... so if i will write in wiki that anders was a god anders is a god ok...

1. Mary sue are character is give favoritism by the plot to the point that it's a flaw for the character to not like her. Not being able to kill her does not make her a mary sue.

2. Not even the game states that. An no matter what you say the wiki is valid. Unless you can prove it wrong by link to were it says she was going to have him executed don't try to deter a valid source. At this point the wiki is never wrong.

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. Mary sue are character is give favoritism by the plot to the point that it's a flaw for the character to not like her. Not being able to kill her does not make her a mary sue.

2. Not even the game states that. An no matter what you say the wiki is valid. Unless you can prove it wrong by link to were it says she was going to have him executed don't try to deter a valid source. At this point the wiki is never wrong.

1.LoL it was what tallis was we couldn't do nothing to stop her she could convince our character saying anything in 5 seconds in practice she was marry sue we want list she just say no and we had to accept we want kill her she just says "are you sure" and pc won't fight with her. She want pc go to steal jewel well 5 second and hawke is dancing like she wants...

2.It isn't even worth discuss fanboyism to the point where you say that wiki where everyone can write something they want is undeniable source of information...

[XMissWooX]

Whilst I'm personally not a fan of Tallis, I wouldn't mind her showing up again in DAI if she had a reason to do so.
She *did* provide an alternative view on the Qun, even if she was a little obtuse (trying to talk it up to my *Mage* Hawke)

In terms of interaction, I don't currently have any plans to play a Qunari sympathiser, so I don't imagine many of my Inquisitors' meetings with Tallis going smoothly.
That said, if she downplayed her involvement with the Qunari (or kept it hidden altogether), or if she had outright deserted the Qun, I think some of my Inquisitors could get on quite well with her.

Actually, there was a time when I wondered if Tallis might be a companion - she would have filled the position of DW rogue and added another female to party. At any rate, I wouldn't be surprised if she were an Agent, or else an influential NPC.

[rapscallioness]

BW said that the Qunari were not going to be playing a significant part in this installment. We will run into sum small groups of qunari, but it's not going to have a large role. So, hard to tell if Tallis would be in one of those small groups we run into, or not.

 

I'd rather not see Tallis again. I didn't like Day's voice acting, and I found the character to be annoying. It's nothing against Felicia Day personally. In fact, I didn't even know who she was, and had never even heard of DA:Redemption until quite some time after I played MoTA the first time. And still did not like the voice acting, nor the character.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Didn't Tallis technically leave the Qun to pursue her mission to prevent the list falling into the hands of the Orlesians?

[Sylvianus]

hahaha je t'aime    (i hope i'm close hehehe)

 

Daww. It's perfect Div' ! ( The funny thing is that the first time I didn't even notice it was in my native language. Needed to re-read it to see it ) lmao.

 

ps : Moi aussi je t'aime ! 

 

I think most people can agree that the moral of this thread is: PIS (plot induced stupidity) is not easily forgiven by fans.

 

Lmao. I think this is true. I despise that. No, a character is not badass, cool and awesome to me because he makes my character look like an idiot in a plot railroaded for this purpose... ( yeah, yeah we get it, Tallis is strong, is smart, she's everything, we are nothing beside her ) Nope, Tallis was just annoying for me. 

 

Here my reaction when I asked her why I should help her and she answered me : " because I got your nose. "

 

 Really ?  Yeah, bye girl. You think that you are so awesome that you think this will convince me ?   And then what happens when I don't want to help her and leave ? Hawk is lost, and he exactly goes where Tallis needed him, where Prosper is and you are finally forced to fight him, what you didn't want to;

 

Really ? They really decided that my Hawk was that dumb ? Wow. A bad taste in my mouth when I finished the dlc, that's all.

[leaguer of one]

1.LoL it was what tallis was we couldn't do nothing to stop her she could convince our character saying anything in 5 seconds in practice she was marry sue we want list she just say no and we had to accept we want kill her she just says "are you sure" and pc won't fight with her. She want pc go to steal jewel well 5 second and hawke is dancing like she wants...

2.It isn't even worth discuss fanboyism to the point where you say that wiki where everyone can write something they want is undeniable source of information...

1. No. Not in practice or any way. Not being able to convince her to give you the list or kill her does not make her a mary sue.

 

2. It's not fanboyism. It's facts. You don't even back them up. And when I do give a valid source with mine you try to discredit it when it had been for a long time approve as a valid source.. So ether back up what you said with a link say she was planning to execute  Ander's or sussed. Sorry but no matter how you try to argue it the wiki is valid and has no miss information.

[LOLandStuff]

She's not a Mary Sue, she's a Black Hole Sue which is even worse, because everyone goes herp derp the moment she shows up.

[AresKeith]

Tbh, I don't have a problem if Tallis shows up again as long as we aren't forced to act like Hawke again

[leaguer of one]

Tbh, I don't have a problem if Tallis shows up again as long as we aren't forced to act like Hawke again

Alright then. I'm fine with that. If you did read the first page I did say when I play the game as a Qunari Inquisitor I would most likely kill her.

[AresKeith]

Alright then. I'm fine with that. If you did read the first page I did say when I play the game as a Qunari Inquisitor I would most likely kill her.

 

Ok?

[leaguer of one]

Ok?

Ok what?

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. No. Not in practice or any way. Not being able to convince her to give you the list or kill her does not make her a mary sue.

 

2. It's not fanboyism. It's facts. You don't even back them up. And when I do give a valid source with mine you try to discredit it when it had been for a long time approve as a valid source.. So ether back up what you said with a link say she was planning to execute  Ander's or sussed. Sorry but no matter how you try to argue it the wiki is valid and has no miss information.

1.Facepalm you are changing what i said so you would sound like you make sense... that is not what i said... 

 

2.This is fanboyism and here you have prove not mention it is simple logic that killing templar is punished with death not mention few templars but i doubt that will work even with clear prove as you will jump into another ridiculous argument...

[KaiserShep]

This thread makes me hope that Tallis shows up in Inquisition and is the cause of the explosion...in service of the Qun, of course.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Didn't Tallis technically leave the Qun to pursue her mission to prevent the list falling into the hands of the Orlesians?

So was never ordered not to pursue it. 

[The Night Haunter]

Naw, she was good in the DLC, but she should be saved up for the Qunari focused game (Maybe 4 or 5) where she makes the most sense. Maybe as a companion who became disenchanted with the Qun and defected to the Qunari Slayers team.

[The Hierophant]

So was never ordered not to pursue it. 

IIRC she botched a previous mission and she later decided that stealing the list would get her back in the good graces of the Arishok.

[SilkieBantam]

I really don't get the "Tallis is a Mary Sue" argument. 

She had flaws, she made mistakes and we weren't required to like her, agree with her or help her. 

Tallis wasn't my favorite character by any means but she gave us an interesting perspective on the Qun and would like to see her again. 

 

Also if simply not being able to kill her makes her a Mary Sue then by that logic Aveline is one as well. 

[efd731]

I really don't get the "Tallis is a Mary Sue" argument.
She had flaws, she made mistakes and we weren't required to like her, agree with her or help her.
Tallis wasn't my favorite character by any means but she gave us an interesting perspective on the Qun and would like to see her again.

Also if simply not being able to kill her makes her a Mary Sue then by that logic Aveline is one as well.

You seem to have missed a major complaint. We* weren't required to like her or help her or agree with her. But hawke as out avatar was. Hawke couldn't say "f**k off I'm done with this heist" or "you lied, almost got me killed, and betrayed me". Or say "I can't believe you've got the balls to endorse the Qun to a Mage!" Hawke couldn't steal the list of names back, or kill Tallis with the proper prompt, or if extremely anti-Qun, side with salit and prosper. The end result is even aggressive hawke is relatively helpful to Tallis, doesn't attempt to stop her, and can't change the result of the dlc.

[SilkieBantam]

You seem to have missed a major complaint. We* weren't required to like her or help her or agree with her. But hawke as out avatar was. Hawke couldn't say "f**k off I'm done with this heist" or "you lied, almost got me killed, and betrayed me". Or say "I can't believe you've got the balls to endorse the Qun to a Mage!" Hawke couldn't steal the list of names back, or kill Tallis with the proper prompt, or if extremely anti-Qun, side with salit and prosper. The end result is even aggressive hawke is relatively helpful to Tallis, doesn't attempt to stop her, and can't change the result of the dlc.

I thought it was already kind of established that Hawke was more of a character like Shepard than an avatar like the Warden. 

 

And Hawke could say that they were done with this heist and go off without Tallis, you have to fight the final boss regardless but you can ditch her. 

 

Also I'm pretty sure Prosper was going to attack regardless. Hawke robbed him and he was pissed about that. 

[Ryzaki]

AGAIN, since apparently this has a hard time getting through, him fulfilling his DUTY is worthy of respect, but it is not worth her giving up her goals of saving hundreds of others.

She could EASILY ask him to abbandon his duty, since that was not his duty to the QUN.

 

Which means she has no respect for him whatsoever. Arishok and Sten doesn't ask Hawke/Warden to abandon his/her duty. (Also those two pretty much suggest the Qunari do have respect for people doing their jobs outside the Qun so...)

 

Also getting the scroll was never her job. She was freelancing. So that wasn't her duty to the QUN anymore than his was.

 

Ugh this is just reminding me how ****** stupid it is that if Hawke tells her to get bent he somehow magically ends up fighting Prosper for her anyway >:|

[Ryzaki]

Right, Qunari spy who sneaks into a castle should just go up to a loyal  ORLISIAN guard and risk her mission by talk to him getting him to leave his station. That would work.

You do understand the qunari is all about duty  and nearly going any lengths to do that duty, right? Says she killed him because of her duty with the qun is not an excuse.

 

THAT'S WHAT SHE DOES.

 

"you can leave friend."

 

*he attacks*

 

*she defends* "he didn't have to die."

 

Like really?

 

I understand why she killed him. What makes me facepalm is the whole "he didn't have to die." and "I came here to stop death not cause it." nonsense. She broke into a dangerous Orlesian's house with the intention of stealing from them along with someone well renowned for their skill in killing things. If she wasn't expecting death she was a ****** moron.

[AresKeith]

THAT'S WHAT SHE DOES.

 

"you can leave friend."

 

*he attacks*

 

*she defends* "he didn't have to die."

 

Like really?

 

I understand why she killed him. What makes me facepalm is the whole "he didn't have to die." and "I came here to stop death not cause it." nonsense. She broke into a dangerous Orlesian's house with the intention of stealing from them along with someone well renowned for their skill in killing things. If she wasn't expecting death she was a ****** moron.

 

She's inconsistent with her on work lol  

[efd731]

I thought it was already kind of established that Hawke was more of a character like Shepard than an avatar like the Warden.

And Hawke could say that they were done with this heist and go off without Tallis, you have to fight the final boss regardless but you can ditch her.

Also I'm pretty sure Prosper was going to attack regardless. Hawke robbed him and he was pissed about that.

you are indirectly proving my point. What would've stopped hawke from leaving the estate without engaging prosper? More plot railroad. Hawke had* options to not help,but they were ultimately unable to choose anything else. Even a hawke who would've otherwise helped the deal go through (for prosper and salit) cannot simply stand back at the clearing and let the deal commence.