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[LOLandStuff]

That DLC screamed of "Look at me! I'm being AWESOME!!!"

I have nothing against FD, but damn, she can't write a grocery store right.

I saw her series and have the DLC. You get this character that's supposed to be conflicted and whatnot. Nope. Now she stabs a poor chump to prove he's a healer, then goes about moping over a guard for doing his job. There was absolutely nothing about her that would show she has issues with the Qun or whatever. She goes about preaching about it and then stutters and just leaves you with a big WTF. It's like she's having a personality disorder but it's actually bad writing. Or Tourette...or who knows what.

The entire DLC was just a gigantic WTF. By the end of it, I didn't even know what the heck I was supposed to do.

Let's steal a chunk of rock. Actually, there's no rock it's a list. But here's this useless cutscene junk you wouldn't probably be able to sell anyway.

The only good part about the DLC was the hunt and party but even there she had to ruin everything by nagging me about her stupid quest.

 

And Hawke was an idiot. Even the NWN barbarian class with low int is smarter than Hawke in that DLC.

[leaguer of one]

those are combact mechanisms, and have very little to do with the storyline. Have we actually a chance to try to kill her, or at least really figh her? I'm sure if there was a fight, it would happen like with Kai Lang on Thessia: cinematic save her before Hawke can kill her.

 

I never taken with me Isabela and Aveline for this DLC. I can say Varric and Anders where totally unuseful.

 

Miranda is one of my least liked character in ME, but she have her moments where she was wrong, or have some weakness. or at least Shepard can tell her to f.... off (see Jack VS Miranda.) and Shep can give her orders. More than once Shep can make her remember she is not the boss. Shepard is.

and by the way, Liara is already the most favourite, no one see Miranda's favouritsm. Just her backside.

1. Kai Lang "won" because he pre-planned a back up plan. I really don't see "shooting rocket to break the foundation of the area you're fighting in on the gunship he flew in on" as plot armor.

2.You can't really argue gameplay/story segregation because if we could fight her it would be a game play element.

3.My point on Miranda is not weather she is like or not.  It just to point out how shaky your argument is. You made a point to say that Shepard and the crew can tell Miranda she is wrong and she has flaws. The same can be said about Talis. You Hawk can tell her she is wrong. Every companion disagrees with. She also as clear flaws. Who can you say that the writers over favor her when they make a point  to make counter points to her beliefs?

[TKavatar]

Lmfao I'm sorry but if you really cannot tell that there is favoritism than there is no point in arguing. Like... it's as clear as day. Really. I promise you, it is.

How is it favouritism just because Tallis looks like her VA who played her in the live action series? Please do explain.

[leaguer of one]

Lmfao I'm sorry but if you really cannot tell that there is favoritism than there is no point in arguing. Like... it's as clear as day. Really. I promise you, it is.

Sorry, but no. It's just advertising. Everytime they make a character look just like the vo they do it just so they have a way to advertise the game/dlc to more people. How is trying to get more people to buy the game a form of character favoritism?

[leaguer of one]

That DLC screamed of "Look at me! I'm being AWESOME!!!"

I have nothing against FD, but damn, she can't write a grocery store right.

I saw her series and have the DLC. You get this character that's supposed to be conflicted and whatnot. Nope. Now she stabs a poor chump to prove he's a healer, then goes about moping over a guard for doing his job. There was absolutely nothing about her that would show she has issues with the Qun or whatever. She goes about preaching about it and then stutters and just leaves you with a big WTF. It's like she's having a personality disorder but it's actually bad writing. Or Tourette...or who knows what.

The entire DLC was just a gigantic WTF. By the end of it, I didn't even know what the heck I was supposed to do.

Let's steal a chunk of rock. Actually, there's no rock it's a list. But here's this useless cutscene junk you wouldn't probably be able to sell anyway.

The only good part about the DLC was the hunt and party but even there she had to ruin everything by nagging me about her stupid quest.

 

And Hawke was an idiot. Even the NWN barbarian class with low int is smarter than Hawke in that DLC.

1. She did not write the story of the dlc.

2.Your points can be use for the dlc for Kasumi, Liara and Aria. 

3.You misunderstood her character completely. Her issue with the qun is how the qunari reacts to her former culture. She upset with kill the guard because she respects that the guard is doing her duty but her belief and mission of the qun has her have to kill him for her to do her job. She just find it unfortunate to have to do it.

[Felya87]

 

3.My point on Miranda is not weather she is like or not.  It just to point out how shaky your argument is. You made a point to say that Shepard and the crew can tell Miranda she is wrong and she has flaws. The same can be said about Talis. You Hawk can tell her she is wrong. Every companion disagrees with. She also as clear flaws. Who can you say that the writers over favor her when they make a point  to make counter points to her beliefs?

 

yet Hawke may say something about what Tallis do being wrong. but can't actually do anyting to stop her. is like a child who cry with her mother he/she doesnt want to do school  homework. It's useless.

Miranda can be put in her place, and even die because of Shep's choices.

The fact that Hawke can't do anything against Tallis, just complain about this and that. And that what I feel the companion and Hawke where doing. Complaining like children.

 

and none of Shepard's companion made seems Shep as an idiot. thing that Tallis do at any chance with Hawke.

[leaguer of one]

yet Hawke may say something about what Tallis do being wrong. but can't actually do anyting to stop her. is like a child who cry with her mother he/she doesnt want to do school  homework. It's useless.

Miranda can be put in her place, and even die because of Shep's choices.

The fact that Hawke can't do anything against Tallis, just complain about this and that. And that what I feel the companion and Hawke where doing. Complaining like children.

 

and none of Shepard's companion made seems Shep as an idiot. thing that Tallis do at any chance with Hawke.

It's does not matter if Hawk can't kill her or not. You don't think a person who knows Hawks background won't think of an escape plan if things go wrong. You can tell her off, you just can't kill her. That does not mean the writers over favor her.

[LOLandStuff]

She still stabbed an elf healer to see if he was full of BS or not.

Besides, there were three stories for her character DG wrote. 

In Liara, Kasumi and Aria, Shepard is competent. They asked for their help knowing they wouldn't succeed without Shepard. And the DLC's did a good job at showing that. With Tallis? You're just there to tag along marvel at her awesomeness or get nauseous at how much she hogs the spotlight.

 

And am I the only one who didn't miss that flamboyant pompous intro of hers? And her taekwondo-karate-ninja-crounching tiger hidden dragon jumps?

[Mister Gusty]

I really don't understand the level of hate people have for Tallis, I think people took the dlc a bit too seriously. After the whole "Tell them I died at Chateau Haine," scene, it's a bit hard to take any of it seriously, especially when at the end Hawke can do that horribly cheesy line of "It looks like the Duke has fallen from grace."

And even if you don't play a sarcastic/charming Hawke, it's still pretty ridiculous anyway, IMO.

 

On Topic

I don't think Tallis will make an appearance as I can't see a scenario where she would be relevant to anything happening during the events of Inquisition, especially considering we are playing a different character, if it was Hawke then maybe there would be a chanceof her making an appearance, but as the Inquisitor there is absolutely no reason for her to be in the game.

[TKavatar]

 
And am I the only one who didn't miss that flamboyant pompous intro of hers? And her taekwondo-karate-ninja-crounching tiger hidden dragon jumps?

Everyone jumps like that in DA2. Those ninja acrobat moves aren't restricted to Tallis.

[Felya87]

 

And am I the only one who didn't miss that flamboyant pompous intro of hers? And her taekwondo-karate-ninja-crounching tiger hidden dragon jumps?

 

I thnked: if she can do that, the intro of Zevran, master assassin of the Crow af Antiva, how would have been? full of kamehame?

[The Hierophant]

It's does not matter if Hawk can't kill her or not. You don't think a person who knows Hawks background won't think of an escape plan if things go wrong. You can tell her off, you just can't kill her. That does not mean the writers over favor her.

She's clearly plot protected from failure based on the fact that Hawke was barred from opposing her. All the player got was...

Hawke: "Hey give that back!"

Tallis: "lol, nope." *walks away*

It's as bad as Hawke letting Petrice go at the end of 'SW' despite her clearly stating her master plan.

[LOLandStuff]

Everyone jumps like that in DA2. Those ninja acrobat moves aren't restricted to Tallis.

I mean the cutscenes jumps not random mooks dropping out of nowhere. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Um, no thank you.  For one, I wasn't that enamored with her as a character.   I'm usually not a fan of NPCs taking over party spots to begin with, which sadly puts one mark against her favor right away.  The flirts seemed to have come out of nowhere and I was left with the impression that I had to like Tallis.

 

For another, not only did I disagree with her visions of the Qun (which I could at least state,) I wasn't allowed to question her about the Qun's role for mages (whether to agree as a Templar Hawke or disagree with as a Mage Hawke.)  That is something that still bothers me even now about the whole DLC she's attached to.

 

Also, her design was too Uncanny Valley for me.  She looked too much like Felicia Day as an elf.  Every pore, every mole, every errant strand of the actress' sodding eyebrows was recreated.  My problem isn't that Tallis looked like Felicia Day, it was that they seemed to be trying too hard to achieve that affect.  Hawke him/herself doesn't have nearly as much attention to detail to their face and they are the main character.

 

I'm not going to use terms like favoritism because while I can see where some posters are coming from, I don't entirely agree with that assessment.

[leaguer of one]

She still stabbed an elf healer to see if he was full of BS or not.

Besides, there were three stories for her character DG wrote. 

In Liara, Kasumi and Aria, Shepard is competent. They asked for their help knowing they wouldn't succeed without Shepard. And the DLC's did a good job at showing that. With Tallis? You're just there to tag along marvel at her awesomeness or get nauseous at how much she hogs the spotlight.

 

And am I the only one who didn't miss that flamboyant pompous intro of hers? And her taekwondo-karate-ninja-crounching tiger hidden dragon jumps?

1. With Liara, Shepard went to her. Also, Tallis went to Hawk because he/she was key to her plan. Here plan literally would not work with out Hawk's help.

2. Aria and Kasumi took up that vast majority of the spotlight in their dlc's. And Shepard was mostly a tag along.

3. All the dlc for character have dramatic intros for the character of the dlc.

 

On point, I have no issue with you hating Tallis. My issue is saying she's a writer favorite.

[TheKomandorShepard]

She's clearly plot protected from failure based on the fact that Hawke was barred from opposing her. All the player got was...

Hawke: "Hey give that back!"

Tallis: "lol, nope." *walks away*

It's as bad as Hawke letting Petrice go at the end of 'SW' despite her clearly stating her master plan.

It is even worse in fact you can say that you will kill her it looks like that but then she says "are you sure?" he throws jewel to the hawke when hawke stands there like a moron despite he said he will kill her then she slowly walks away... 

[TKavatar]

I mean the cutscenes jumps not random mooks dropping out of nowhere.

How is that any different?

[leaguer of one]

She's clearly plot protected from failure based on the fact that Hawke was barred from opposing her. All the player got was...

Hawke: "Hey give that back!"

Tallis: "lol, nope." *walks away*

It's as bad as Hawke letting Petrice go at the end of 'SW' despite her clearly stating her master plan.

I don't see a problem with that. Seriously, it's less that you hate her and more that you're just upset you can't kill her.

[TheKomandorShepard]

How is that any different?

You can take 20 hits with 2 h sword and be still alive in gameplay when cut scenes show story where 1 stab can kill you...

[Little Princess Peach]

I couldn't stand Tallis. If she ever came back, I only hope I can kill her. Possibly slowly and painfully.

I already have a DLC where she made Hawke seem a total idiot. No way she came back and do the same to my Inquisitor "because writers love her".

I can't like this post enough

I like the idea of Tali errm Tallis and the Actress did a great job on her but I just could not stand her in any way

[LOLandStuff]

One is gameplay the other is a cutscene which took forever. Longest cutscene of all companions.

 

Also, I repeat myself. Why did she need to stab the elf to prove he's a healer then QQ about a guard?

[Grieving Natashina]

 

 

Also, I repeat myself. Why did she need to stab the elf to prove he's a healer then QQ about a guard?

When did this happen?  I never betrayed her, so I guess I missed this.  

[TheKomandorShepard]

When did this happen?  I never betrayed her, so I guess I missed this.  

Elf part is in da redemption just search for it and you will know.

[TKavatar]

One is gameplay the other is a cutscene which took forever. Longest cutscene of all companions.
 

You could always skip said cutscene if you hate it so much. Seriously, it's not that hard.

And this is Thedas. Dragons and magic and broodmothers you can handle but not acrobatic jumping?