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[Deflagratio]

The viciousness toward Felicia Day in this thread is slightly unsettling. I've seen "Please remove romances from Bioware games" threads taken in better stride.

[leaguer of one]

There is a difference between Sten and Tallis. Sten lost his sword. That means he is literally dead to the Qun and his people. He surrendered himself shortly after to die according to the Qun and took an extraordinary event to get him back to action. Tallis is just too kind and generous and awesome to do the wrong thing by not-Qunari standards. There is not a single moment in MotA that she acts according to the Qun. She does literally whatever she feels like. She treats bas as her equals, she goes against the wishes of Ariqun.

It does not matter. If the qun is all about self control then they should always be in that state no matter what.  And we already no she did, would, and could  do things wrong by non-qunari standards. As I said before she is all about finding the middle ground. Foe her she want to have the extremist qun become moderate. That no different from the changes over time of any religion.  You going on about her trying to find a middle ground is like a person hating on Christians for not stoning to death adulterers.

[General TSAR]

Sure............if my inquisitor can slay her for being a heretic. 

 

 

Otherwise, keep that disgrace to the Qun out of the game thanks.

[leaguer of one]

So she is literally NOT QUNARI. You can't be Qunari and something else as well. She is an insult to Qun cause she believes that it is flawed. What she is, is "Superawesome and smart and funny and different and unique". Sounds to me like those dumb hot girls that put glasses on and say "Wow im such a nerd, look at how nerd I am".

 

Ok I admit I lost it a bit. But I'm not wrong. I just think that this character isn't worthy of mentioning ever again in this game. I liked MotA for the culture and the puzzles and even the stealth part although it was pretty lame. But I really dislike what Tallis stands for.

Dude, that's how religions concepts, dogmas, and practices change. A religion comes into a new location and it mixes with the belief and practices of the people of the new area. Their is nothing wrong with fining a middle ground with it and that does not make he not Qun for doing so. You saying she is not Qun for doing this is like saying someone is not a christian because they don't go to mass.

[Vaseldwa]

[Knight of Dane]

The viciousness toward Felicia Day in this thread is slightly unsettling. I've seen "Please remove romances from Bioware games" threads taken in better stride.

She usually faces a harsh tone.

 

I don't really like Felicia Day, but neither do I really dislike her. I think she is a painfully average actress, but more, I dislike Bioware's attempt at publicity in hiring someone "famous," that is not known from voice acting in the first place, to play a role. But I've generally always disliked that in games.

 

What I dislike the most however is Tallis herself, the character. But I've already voiced my ready opposition toward her before.

 

Suffice it to say, I hope the best for Felicia Day and am happy to share a interest in Dragon Age with her, but I hope she will stay as just a fan and not as a creator in the series.

[Cylan Cooper]

Her appearance in Inquisition is going to go like this:

 

The Inquisitor, Varric, Cassandra, and some other party member are standing on a bluff near a Keep.

Inquisitor: Varric, are you sure about this?

Varric: Something tells me you'll like the results. I spread some rumors about a fabled artifact the Qunari would be very grateful to have. Now, I've told enough stories to know how to get something interesting to happen. Let's head towards the Keep gates.

Tallis jumps down in front of them, jumps up to the top of the barricade, does a slow run towards one guard and kills him, tosses a knife and hits the other guard in the throat. A cutscene goes on like this for about five minutes until the whole Keep is dead.

Cassandra: I...see that you were not exaggerating about Tallis's...prowess in combat.

Varric: Seeker, you should know better than anyone that my stories are only half bullshit.

 

Seriously though, I see Tallis coming back sooner or later. She couldn't die and the Qunari are going to be relevant pretty soon I'd wager. Honestly when Inquisition was just getting details revealed, I was pretty convinced we'd get her as a companion just because Hawke's journal basically said in big bold letters 'SHE'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT LATER'. Know what I mean?

 

I don't really care for Tallis for a bunch of reasons already stated but Felicia Day is an alright actress. I watched Redemption the other day and the quality of the acting from everyone except her and the Templar was the kind of stuff you'd expect to see in a porno flick that tries to have a story...which it nearly became there when Tallis and the Templar were making out and getting the Reaver and elf all hot and bothered. I wouldn't mind hearing her voice again. She plays witty roles well.

 

Tallis was a pretty wonky character though. If she thought that the Qun was flawed like some say (been a while since I played the dlc) then I hope she keeps that opinion to herself in Qunari lands. The Qunari would probably hear that and take her to one of their reeducation camps. They're lovely this time of year, I hear. Anyway, a lot of my dislike of the dlc has faded away since it's a 3 year old dlc. The only things that make my shake my head are the long intro of Tallis killing 10ish guys while Hawke watches, Hawke's choice to not help her not really doing much, and how even if you say "give me those documents." She just goes "Lolno" and that's that. I mean, if that was in the main game instead, she would've been murder knifed but Hawke didn't even make an attempt with an aggressive personality.

[Legenlorn]

Hmm. Reading through this thread I get the feeling some people are really wasting their time replying to the "fans" of tallis/FD. The first group makes some good comments while the others just carry on with their one thought. Sad to tell the truth. I say if they put her in the game then let people decide what they want to do with her. Simple.

[Tootles FTW]

I liked her personality, but there were a lot of inconsistencies with her character that bothered me.  If she's in Inquisition (which I think she will be) I hope she's a bit more evened out, OR let me express my character's opposing opinion at the least.  A difference of opinion =/= dislike.

[BubbleDncr]

My issues with Tallis have been summed up in this thread by other posters. If Tallis were to return in DA:I, I would like it to "right the wrongs" of her MoTA appearance.

 

Meaning, my Inquisitor should not be forced to help Tallis if my Inquisitor is pro-mage and anti-qunari. And should Tallis be going against what my Inquisitor wants to happen, I should be able to kill her like I can any other antagonist in the game, and not just stand there smiling like an idiot.

 

But it would probably be best if she just doesn't show up at all.

[In Exile]

There is a difference between Sten and Tallis. Sten lost his sword. That means he is literally dead to the Qun and his people. He surrendered himself shortly after to die according to the Qun and took an extraordinary event to get him back to action. Tallis is just too kind and generous and awesome to do the wrong thing by not-Qunari standards. There is not a single moment in MotA that she acts according to the Qun. She does literally whatever she feels like. She treats bas as her equals, she goes against the wishes of Ariqun.

 

She speaks to a Saarebas, which is an execution worthy offence. 

[Tootles FTW]

She speaks to a Saarebas, which is an execution worthy offence. 

Yeeeea....it was kind of awkward for my Mage Hawke there while Tallis waxed poetic about the Qun.  

[In Exile]

Yeeeea....it was kind of awkward for my Mage Hawke there while Tallis waxed poetic about the Qun.  

 

Not being to go "Umm... you literally sow mages mouths' shut, WTF!?" is a huge, huge problem with the whole interaction. 

[leaguer of one]

She speaks to a Saarebas, which is an execution worthy offence. 

So does Sten, the Aroshok and every other Qunari in Kirkwall.

[The Ascendant]

Remember it is Arvaraad's job to deal with magi, Tallis doesn't seem to treat Hawke any different than Sten or the Arishok. She can even have a romantic interest in him/her even though cross species romance is a big no no for the Qun. I hope she serves as an exemplar for reformation in the Qun.

[In Exile]

So does Sten, the Aroshok and every other Qunari in Kirkwall.

 

I'm aware. They clearly made up that bit of lore in DA2, but once they made it up, they ran into a problem with it. It's easy to handwave the Arishok away for not having seen Hawke fight, but everything else is a serious problem. 

[In Exile]

Remember it is Arvaraad's job to deal with magi, Tallis doesn't seem to treat Hawke any different than Sten or the Arishok. She can even have a romantic interest in him/her even though cross species romance is a big no no for the Qun. I hope she serves as an exemplar for reformation in the Qun.

 

She serves as an exemplar for the Qun losing everything that's interesting and unique about it in the setting. 

[jlb524]

Not being to go "Umm... you literally sow mages mouths' shut, WTF!?" is a huge, huge problem with the whole interaction. 

 

I think Tallis' character suffers from not being a full companion character throughout the game.  

 

If she were, this is something Mage!Hawke could have brought up during a rival path conversation.

 

I think the character has potential but it's hard to realize it in a short DLC mission.

[leaguer of one]

I'm aware. They clearly made up that bit of lore in DA2, but once they made it up, they ran into a problem with it. It's easy to handwave the Arishok away for not having seen Hawke fight, but everything else is a serious problem. 

Dude, do you not know the first rules of religions is that it's contradictory? I'm not surprised by the qunari fallowing every rule of the qun. Even the chantry is like that.

 By your point every qunari that take to mage  hawk is not qunari because they talked to a mage. No religion can be that absolute .

[Han Shot First]

I hope Tallis makes a cameo...

 

 

 

 

 

...as a head mounted on a spike decorating my Inquisitor's castle.

[TKavatar]

She serves as an exemplar for the Qun losing everything that's interesting and unique about it in the setting.

The Qunari are not going to change just because of one conflicted Ben Hassrath. If they find out, she'll likely be reeducated like Sten was after spending a whole year gallivanting around with the bas.

[wolfhowwl]

b-but all those spies...

 

of a hostile foreign power...

 

that wants to destroy our way of life...

 

and just sacked the city I live in...

 

and whose leader vowed to return.

 

I really felt that I had no reason to let Tallis walk away with that list and was annoyed that I wasn't even given the chance.

 

Is it just a coincidence that BioWare let Day be involved in the development of Tallis for the DLC and Tallis also wins no matter what?

[leaguer of one]

She serves as an exemplar for the Qun losing everything that's interesting and unique about it in the setting. 

I don't see how. She's an example of how the converted see the qun. We only seen it at the point of people who where born into the qun, never as one who is part of it and was born and raised out side of it. The point she is trying to find a middle ground with the religion. Every religion goes through this as it goes from culture to culture. I done see it as contradictory  at all because our own religions have these forms of convergence from person to person and region to region.

[leaguer of one]

b-but all those spies...

 

of a hostile foreign power...

 

that wants to destroy our way of life...

 

and just sacked the city I live in...

 

and whose leader vowed to return.

 

I really felt that I had no reason to let Tallis walk away with that list and was annoyed that I wasn't even given the chance.

 

Is it just a coincidence that BioWare let Day be involved in the development of Tallis for the DLC and Tallis also wins no matter what?

On point, we already are losing our way of life.

[Han Shot First]

b-but all those spies...

 

of a hostile foreign power...

 

that wants to destroy our way of life...

 

and just sacked the city I live in...

 

and whose leader vowed to return.

 

I really felt that I had no reason to let Tallis walk away with that list and was annoyed that I wasn't even given the chance.

 

Is it just a coincidence that BioWare let Day be involved in the development of Tallis for the DLC and Tallis also wins no matter what?

 

The Adventures of Tallis

 

Also Starring Hawke