50 réponses à ce sujet

[Karlone123]

I was talking to a friend the other day about ME4, discussing who the next protagonist might be. One thing that stood out in interest to me was the character being in the armed services again. I do not really want to see that again, as Shepard, I felt like a bit of a lapdog towards Hackett and would like to have that feeling of open freedom of not having to answer to anyone. My friend argued that it was military connection shepard had that he found appealing. And I too like the appeal of the military connection but would prefer not to serve in the Alliance again.

 

I suggested to my friend if the next protagonist actually serves in a private military group, acting as a security force and combat consultants to other armed forces, it has the military appeal as well as the open freedom of not listening Alliance admirals. Should the next protagonist be a soldier again? Or maybe something else?

[Farangbaa]

He/she should definetly not be 'apart'. I like my protagonist in one piece and not scattered all over the place.

 

A part of the military I'm fine with though.

 

[Ryriena]

I like the specter idea instead of the solider idea. It felt right with Shepard, but I to felt I was just a tool for the Alliance to use. It got to the point Joker even made a joke to me about it to me over the intercom before Hackett gave me my mission to find Dr. Wayne. I shouldn't get request or missions from this guy.

[Massa FX]

I don't like the Alliance. I hope it's not operating in the next game.

 

If the game is far into the future, I'm fine with a military character, but I'm also fine with a non-military storyline.

[Ryriena]

I don't like the Alliance. I hope it's not operating in the next game.

If the game is far into the future, I'm fine with a military character, but I'm also fine with a non-military storyline.

Yeah it felt way too forced on role playing aspects. But I would never want a MMO.

[JamesFaith]

Not marine from Alliance, but main hero should be another "soldier-type" like mercenary, Corsair or smuggler.

 

But I would skip Specter from this list, I would prefer someone who have to build his reputation and can't hide behind nearly almighty title from the beginning of the game.

[Farangbaa]

Yeah it felt way too forced on role playing aspects. But I would never want a MMO.

 

How the *&^@#*!^ did you go from: 

 

 

I don't like the Alliance. I hope it's not operating in the next game.

 

If the game is far into the future, I'm fine with a military character, but I'm also fine with a non-military storyline.

 

to MMO?

[Ryriena]

How the *&^@#*!^ did you go from:



to MMO?

I just thought something like this would lead to a plot line around a MMO. But I'm not a big fan of a MMO for mass effect.

[Farangbaa]

MMO's need a plot nowadays?  

[Ryriena]

MMO's need a plot nowadays?

To me yeah it does

[von uber]

Well given we'll be playing as liara's and shep's daughter, I guess it's a role in the asari military.

[Karlone123]

I would like protagonist to also be dealing with terrorist plots, rogue governments and such, shepard has dealt with these but I would like to see a greater focus on these elements spanning their own main stories.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Two words:

 

Space Archeologist

[AlexMBrennan]

I'm pretty sure PMCs have to listen to their boss as well rather than going Army of Two on any country they happen to dislike at any given time whereas "combat consultants" usually are part of the military (e.g. Green Berets' orignainal role).

In general, the problem is going to be how your non-military people will be able to get their hands on the latest military hardware (tanks, helicopter gunships, stealth frigates) and how they get involved in he plot (if the Alliance or whatever was to discover a major threat, they'd send N7 forces or Spectres rather than hiring some random mercenary) which sorta limits ME4 to the protagonist robbing banks and such.

[shodiswe]

Bussines person of more or less questionable reputation (Paragon/Renegade).... Might be somewhat similar to a merc, but more leadership and bussines oriented.

People hiering you for jobs could be all type of people, from government and military to people who lost their cat....

Client: Someone kidnapped my cat and they are ransoming Mr Puke for 10 000 000 Credits! I'll give you 1% of that if you get him back.

Merc: Shouldn't I be getting more than 100 000?

Client: I'm hiering you to kill the basturds who thought they could blackmail me, if you can bring back Mr Pukie aswell then you will get paid. If you fail then you don't get paid, if you kill them but fail to save my cat then I'll give you 20 000 for helping me make a statement, but I want you to return my cat and kill them, since that would be an even more pwoerful statement not to "F with me".

Merc: I see. So I guess you would never had paid them 10M.

Client: Ofcourse not, but a got a good deal for you my friend.

[Han Shot First]

It really depends on the plot of the game. The plot should play a role in dictating what sort of background(s) the player character will come from.

 

Take the Shepard trilogy and Dragon Age: Origins as examples. A player character with any other background other than military wouldn't have made much sense in a trilogy about defeating a Reaper invasion. In DA:O the main plot is about defeating a blight. Of course all versions of the main character have to be a Grey Warden.

 

So if the next game is going to feature another galaxy-wide war that the protagonist must lead his or her faction to victory in, than it would only make sense to have that protagonist come from one of the military organizations in the lore, whether that be the Alliance, the Turian military, Asari commandos, Salarian STG, ect, ect. Maybe you could get away with having that character be a mercenary as well, but there would have to be some sort of military background whether private or professional.

 

On that note, I wouldn't mind a story where the stakes are much smaller and more personal so that we could have a protagonist that was say, a pirate, or a smuggler, or a C-Sec officer, or something similar. 

 

Not that I would mind playing as another Alliance officer either. I like the Alliance, and liked the military atmosphere of both ME1 and ME3's Normandy.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

It really depends on the plot of the game. 

 

Take the Shepard trilogy and Dragon Age: Origins as examples. A player character with any other background other than military wouldn't have made much sense in a trilogy about defeating a Reaper invasion. In DA:O the main plot is about defeating a blight. Of course all versions of the main character have to be a Grey Warden.

 

So if the next game is going to feature another galaxy-wide war that the protagonist must lead his or her faction to victory in, than it would only make sense to have that protagonist come from one of the military organizations in the lore, whether that be the Alliance, the Turian military, Asari commandos, Salarian STG, ect, ect. Maybe you could get away with having that character be a mercenary as well, but there would have to be some sort of military background whether private or professional.

 

On that note, I wouldn't mind a story where the stakes are much smaller and more personal so that we could have a protagonist that was say, a pirate, or a smuggler, or a C-Sec officer, or something similar. 

 

Not that I would mind playing as another Alliance officer either. I like the Alliance, and liked the military atmosphere of both ME1 and ME3's Normandy.

 

I'm going to shoot a planet sized hole in your DAO comparison now. Being a Warden is a moot point on the sole grounds that its more than possible for the PC to come from a background without formal training in weapons or in the case of Mages wholly inexperienced in battle as a whole and possibly naive of the world at large because of the Circle. Only the Human Noble, Dwarven Noble, and Dalish Elf origins give you characters that would be familiar with military matters. City Elf would not be, and has little real training. Mage of any kind has already been explained. Dwarven Commoner is a criminal, and has no military experience either.

[General TSAR]

Hell Nope!

 

I am sick and tired of space jarheads, we need more asskicking space civilians with weapon knowhow like Isaac Clarke. 

 

How about the your character being a pirate or a freedom fighter on a planet being occupied by a more totalitarian alliance/hierarchy/union/republics/w/e, or space archaeologist.

[Han Shot First]

I'm going to shoot a planet sized hole in your DAO comparison now. Being a Warden is a moot point on the sole grounds that its more than possible for the PC to come from a background without formal training in weapons or in the case of Mages wholly inexperienced in battle as a whole and possibly naive of the world at large because of the Circle. Only the Human Noble, Dwarven Noble, and Dalish Elf origins give you characters that would be familiar with military matters. City Elf would not be, and has little real training. Mage of any kind has already been explained. Dwarven Commoner is a criminal, and has no military experience either.

 

Your shot went wide and missed completely. The Grey Wardens are a military organization. 

 

Also, no one is born with military experience. Every military organization that exists in the world today is staffed by people who either used to be students or held civilian jobs.

[AlanC9]

I'm going to shoot a planet sized hole in your DAO comparison now. Being a Warden is a moot point on the sole grounds that its more than possible for the PC to come from a background without formal training in weapons or in the case of Mages wholly inexperienced in battle as a whole and possibly naive of the world at large because of the Circle. Only the Human Noble, Dwarven Noble, and Dalish Elf origins give you characters that would be familiar with military matters. City Elf would not be, and has little real training. Mage of any kind has already been explained. Dwarven Commoner is a criminal, and has no military experience either.

However, the DC is a capable fighter, winning a Proving. And the City Elf won't survive the origin without combat prowess either. It's not military experience, but it is fighting skill.

[AlanC9]

Your claim was that the Warden needed a military background to do what they do. I proved that the Warden doesnt need that by pointing out the three origins that would not have that background. The Grey Wardens being a military organization of its own is entirely moot and irrelevant to the point I was making.
 
Nice try in that failed dismissal though.

Aren't you two talking past each other? The Warden doesn't need a military background for the story because she ends up being forced into the military wherever she comes from.

[von uber]

On further thought I think it depends on what sort of job a well built, white Caucasian male with a gravelly voice and crew cut can do.

[Ryriena]

Well given we'll be playing as liara's and shep's daughter, I guess it's a role in the asari military.

No if Liara did that to my Shepard without permission I would rage. My Shepard having babies with Kaiden and no one else....

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

I think it should either a person in the terminus, any race, who builds his/her way up to ruling the area. 

Or someone in the STG. 

[jtav]

I wouldn't call the GW military--they're closer to a good guy Cerberus. Most of what they do does not involve leading or fighting in armies. Most of what the Warden does is typical ragtag bunch of adventurers stuff, following no chain of command until the very end. And in DAA, I'd call them the arl before I'd call them a soldier.

As for ME4, the protagonist shouldn't be part of a formal military. Chain of command doesn't really mesh with the freedom I expect in RPGs, nor does BW do a good job.