Meh. Stuff like that doesn't appeal to me, I guess, and your examples of his humor come off as "trying too hard" to me.
To me, trying to hard has to involve actual trying. Those are things I'd just say without thinking very hard about it, so to me they seem to be perfectly natural. I am curious, though - what do you find funny re: dialogue?
Tries to be funny? Shallow?
That man could make a turn a funeral into a rave. His charisma levels are so high, there are reports of both male and female juices being excreted from up to 4 miles away from his position. That dude is so smooth, he could convince the National Socialist party to hand Poland to the French. His chest-hair is so manly, that one strand contains the same amount of testosterone found in 5 bulls. His voice is so sexy, it could be used as an auditory replacement for viagra. His aim is so good, he could shoot a house fly from 200 yards away and pin it to a tree.
He is... The Most Interesting Dwarf In The World.
Stay thirsty, my friends. 
(Sorry, had to. That paragraph set it up waaaaay too nicely...)
I thought Varric wasn't too bad, considering he wasn't a love interest. Could've definitely used more depth, but I thought the ordeal with seeing his brother fall victim to the idyll was interesting and had it's own character development, slightly. In it's own way. Even if that's not enough character development, I thought he was an amusing enough character on his own. But, I can understand if people didn't like him.
But yeah! I definitely would love to see more character development for Varric. Definitely want to see the whole thing with Bianca either explained or solved, in the games. I'd like to romance him, but I don't see that happening.
I don't think he will be romancable...one of the devs (Cameron Lee I think it was) hinted that he is too attached to that crossbow of his.
And we're talking about character development, right? The only reason I still have hope is because he's the Garrus of DA.
And we're talking about character development, right? The only reason I still have hope is because he's the Garrus of DA.
i think they purposely didnt give him much development, outside the whole bartrand thing, because they knew he was going to be in multiple games.... he had enough development for us to know that he preferred to remain neutral in things.... the one thing i didnt like is when you chase javaris in act 2 you have the choice of killing him or letting him go.... i usually didnt kill him, no problems from anybody, but the one time i did varic got rivalry points... its like ok, at least let him have some dialog to point out why he got mad at me doing that....
That would be a retcon if he was romancable to all races and genders. Varric has stated repeatedly that he only likes cute dwarven girls.
Cause that wasn't a convenient excuse for him still being way into Bianca... If he had a romance and it was exclusive to female dwarven girls might kinda feel like a creepy replacement for Bianca..idk just thinking
Varric...is a pretty normal guy. There's not much interesting to say, but there's not much interesting to say about most of us.
IMHO, that is why such "stable" characters are a sore point for so many.
Many like them because they are so normal (some would say "bland")
Many hate them because they got used to super-special characters with whacky/OTT personalities.
That would be a retcon if he was romancable to all races and genders. Varric has stated repeatedly that he only likes cute dwarven girls.
But you would be his super-special-snowflake queen of beauty. You are in a different level lol.
That seems like an excuse to me anyway. He's just traumatized by whatever happened with Bianka, or mourning... or he lost his genitals in an accident and hides it with humor, who knows.
Why must every character develop?
Not all of us. Not often. And not all in the span of a a few months.
Not all of us. Not often. And not all in the span of a a few months.
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I think Varric's appeal is tied to the fact that he's a complete subversion of your typical dwarf. In a game that was a cut above mediocrity I thought he had the most potential which is why I don't mind him coming back. But I definitely agree with the notion that he needs more development. He straddled the fence (which is cool I guess) on a lot of issues so we were given very little insight into his character.
The game can stand having one Garrus or Varric going around for light relief, though it's true that they leave a lot of the heavy lifting of the story to other characters.
From what I can tell he already has changed a bit.... I don't think da2 varric would that broken up about the villagers dieing. I mean at best he might say like poor sods or something. At worst he'd make a joke about it. But now it seems like it really effects him.
Varric definitely cared about innocents. You see it in the mage vs.. templar moments, when he's generally pro "freeing mages" (versus pro-mage).
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He's the Garrus of DA.
So I don't expect much. But we'll see.
He's the Garrus of DA.
So I don't expect much. But we'll see.
Which is a shame. Being the best friend of the protagonist, you'd think they have a lot more focus on their story.
Guess thats why I like Vernon Roche so much, he was a bro, but with a lot of development.
I wouldn't call Varric the Garrus of DA since I'm not a fan of Garrus and with Varric, he was just a storyteller. I wouldn't be surprised if all he does in DAI is say a few lines about whatever with a little humor and tells stories that have his own exaggeration added to them.
He's the Garrus of DA.
Lol nope.
He's better than Garrus.
I never thought of Varric as having all that much depth as a character. He's not a bad character because of that though.
I'm also guessing that this is partly the reason why he is in DA3. So that we can actually have his character arc resolved.
As for whether Bianca or Gerav made the Varric's crossbow, I'm thinking more along the lines that they both could've made it.
Also, on Varric being the "Garrus" of DA. I don't think that is the case but think about this, can you picture the two of them together? That would probably result in a bromance for the ages. lol
But a significant part of Varric is that he gets along with a wide variety of people (even those he disagrees with), and that he uses humor to cover how he really feels about things. Remember how he only starts lying to Cassandra when he has to tell her about his brother? That is the real Varric right there. He covers up his emotions by making a huge joke out of it. Varric being easygoing no matter how much of a jerk Hawke is says just as much about him as other characters being touchy about Hawke's choices says about them.
But yeah, I don't think he'd be included in this game if he didn't have a story to be told.
He also does the same thing with other people as well, Family matters and what not. Hawke sibling dying in the deeproads is one thing, because it shows that, Hawke was not there to just bring back some idol. Like the chantry thinks.
With Legacy, it pretty much said the same thing, that its Family matters and doesn't want to get into it. Like with his own. So there are some barriers he wont cross. Unless well preesured into cause I'm sure its better to tell them than say getting your family jewels cut off =p
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