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[Winterfly]

I will get a lot of angry fans throwing rocks at me for this but.

 

 

This year old video do give some pointers towards EA( and indirectly Bioware).

 

You lost your heart Bioware. You are not even the same company who made those so called "Legacy" games.

 

TOR was WoW in space

 

DA2 was a heresy. The so proclaimed series to be the "spiritual" Successor to Baldurs Gate? Oh no, Not with DA2 it sure isn't. Forgot you make RPGS? And the arrogance you shown when you where so "shocked" that fans was angry overi t.

 

ME3 was not what it was supposed to be. I also question if the writers even read Drew Karpyshyns books? Kai Leng is a poorly written anime character in the game. In the books he is not like this. Did you even read your first writers books? Or are you disrespectfully not caring for what he said?

 

Would be nice if you put some effort into the game and stop with the whole pleasing of minor crap out there. Gay romances and fan services do not make a good game. Why is the mighty Bioware looking at the horrible RP game of Skyrim when you make DA:I? You are clearly or was clearly much better at making RPGs and you are clearly better att dialogue. Why is this even a thing? To look at Activions CoD and Bethesdas shoddy RPG sand box game Skyrim?

 

Im simply curious. Probably will get locked down or moved.

[Nate Assassin]

Meh...
 

[mybudgee]

Mac Walters would like to see you in his office OP

[mousestalker]

Here is how the game industry works. If a company makes a game that the customers do not want, then it will not sell well. If a company makes a game that customers do want then it will sell well. If game sales are down then games are being made that leave the customer base unenthused. If game sales are up then games are being made that players want to play.

It really is that simple.

[Winterfly]

Yeah sure thing bro, Where is the office of Walters?

 

Mousetalker. I been in the restaurant business. You can only give shitty service for so long until the customer get tired and leave. Even if this was their favourite place to eat.

[KingoftheZempk]

I think you're right about the video game market beginning to crash. I wasn't alive for the first one but after reading, I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Things are just rehashed (not just Bioware but all companies are doing this).

 

Here's the thing. This is about money. That's really all it comes down to. The bottom line. Just like every company out there.

 

ToR was WoW in space. Why? Money. Star Wars is/was a massive licensing deal. Of course they're going to try to make it accessible to the people they want (WoW crowd) andgenerate revenue.

 

DA2 was a problem. A very big problem. If I'm not mistaken though, there were quite a few problems during the development of the game. Not an excuse still, but it comes down to money.

 

ME3 was (from what I heard, I haven't played it yet) a good game up until the end 20-20 minutes just because it didn't go how fans wanted. Not meaning to knock fans, but sometimes we don't always get what we want. As for not following Karpyshyns work, that's poor right there.

 

As for the "not making good RPGs" thing, it comes down to money. Bioware wants people to spend money with them, not Activision or Bethesda. Yes, their dialogue is far superior (even DA2 had some great moments). The thing is, gay romances and these fan services do help keep the fanbase, especially when most games won't even touch it with a 20 foot pool. Has quality gone down? Probably but so has a lot of quality in most media (literature, film, etc). It's the natural state of things until the market has more demand for higher quality. Bioware's products are certainly still good, maybe it's nostalgia affecting you, who knows. The grass is always greener, or something.

 

TL;DR: It comes down to what brings in the most money.

[The Love Runner]

If I may chime in, SquareEnix is an excellent example of this right here^^. I think a lot of fans of the FF series are clinging onto XV in hopes of it being the "next VII" but I have my doubts, especially in the 7-8 (almost a decade!) years since it was announced we've received very little info and still no plot what so ever.

And it took them 7 years just to ANNOUNCE Kingdom Hearts III.

EDIT: For your point on Capcom, that $20 Disc-Locked Content fiasco for Street Fighter X Tekken was just terrible.

[Winterfly]

Yes, I do proclaim the HBTQ Is a minority that is getting catered too. I do not see anyone cater to religious minorities? Its trendy now. In 10 years it be something else. They can't afford to cater to straight white men anymore..what? Is white middle agedm en suddenly not the richest group any longer? How is the LGBT group such a strong economical group? Did you know, in a schoo class of 30 students, 3 is by statistics homosexual. How is this a strong group.

 

The prices are sky rocketing in production while games become more streamlined and dull. Less dare do something new and those who do is indie games with small budgets who you won't notice cause they are small bangs among atom bomb titles like CoD and similar.

 

urgh got to rush guys. write more later.

[Liamv2]

Lol clevernoobs. 

[NekkidNones]

I wonder how much of a difference it would make if consumers could return bad videogames to the store for a 100% cash refund, like they could in the 80s.  Or like I can with a pair of jeans.  If you can't return a product that is crap and yet not defective for your cash, how long do you think it takes industry to start abusing that system for profit?

 

I don't think the industry is dying or anything.  I do think there's a lot of BS in it from ppl that are full of...

[AlanC9]

DA2 was a problem. A very big problem. If I'm not mistaken though, there were quite a few problems during the development of the game. Not an excuse still, but it comes down to money.
 
ME3 was (from what I heard, I haven't played it yet) a good game up until the end 20-20 minutes just because it didn't go how fans wanted. Not meaning to knock fans, but sometimes we don't always get what we want. As for not following Karpyshyns work, that's poor right there.

Note that DA2 didn't make as much money as DAO, but as a much cheaper game it didn't need to.

Also, what Drew K. planned for the ending of ME2 -- to the extent he had a plan -- would have bothered the fans just as much as what we got, if not more. I could do details but I suppose they'd need to be spoiler-tagged.

[AlanC9]

Yes, I do proclaim the HBTQ Is a minority that is getting catered too. I do not see anyone cater to religious minorities? Its trendy now. In 10 years it be something else. They can't afford to cater to straight white men anymore..what? Is white middle agedm en suddenly not the richest group any longer? How is the LGBT group such a strong economical group? Did you know, in a schoo class of 30 students, 3 is by statistics homosexual. How is this a strong group.

This is idiotic. Including gay romances in DA2 required recording additional dialogue for Hawke, and maybe three additional lines for the NPCs. In DAO it was virtually free since almost all of the Warden's dialogue is the same either way. There's no serious expense here. It's a cheap way to please a segment of the fanbase.

[Beerfish]

RPGCodex fodder.

[CronoDragoon]

ME3 was not what it was supposed to be. I also question if the writers even read Drew Karpyshyns books? Kai Leng is a poorly written anime character in the game. In the books he is not like this. Did you even read your first writers books? Or are you disrespectfully not caring for what he said?

 

Dude Drew K's books are mediocre at their best, uninspired and boring at their worst. Let's not pretend a lot was lost by changing Kai Leng's personality slightly.

[Vapaa]

> complain about TOR
> complain about DA2
>complain about ME3
>complain about gay romances

What could possibly go wrong ?

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I don't see any issues with looking at Call of Duty for inspiration. It's the best RPG out there and has a massive following.

And geez, as an official hater, this is pretty poor work by the OP. Is it the fault of gay people that TOR tanked now?

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

The thing I find funny is that, by and large, BioWare's romances as they like to structure it are inherently fanservice. They're quite often wish fantasy fulfillment.

The humour for me is that, at least in Mass Effect, the egregious cases are overwhelmingly hetero or options available for straight males.

[Nate Assassin]

Vapaa, on 15 May 2014 - 11:42 AM, said:

> complain about TOR
> complain about DA2
>complain about ME3
>complain about gay romances

So much complains.

[Winterfly]

Dude Drew K's books are mediocre at their best, uninspired and boring at their worst. Let's not pretend a lot was lost by changing Kai Leng's personality slightly.

Well, they where still better than the last book aaaand they sure did Kai Leng better.

Also, the gay romances got nothing to do with anything. Just that they get strangely lot of focus. As if its some kind of cover for poor mechanics and shoddy story endings. Same as some Japanese games just cover their crap in "waifus".

What I do wonder although is, why LTBQ is so accepted in the Dragon Age world where people lock up others for being odd (mages) and there is a inquisition.

 

Mass Effect! Sure this is the future! Understandable acceptance everywhere but how do Bioware explain this acceptance of these things in the Dragon Age world? Is it a utopia thrown into chaos?

 

And we all know TOR crashed cause of the illuminati. Do not flatter yourself! Damn LBTQ society! PFFT! Always want the center of attention! Yes I am joking