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[MisterJB]

Didn't the Magisters also murder hundreds of slaves to power their assault on the Golden City?

Thousands.

 

[drake heath]

The Tevinters remind me of Goa'ulds, a bunch of megalomaniacs who kill thousands of slaves for "research" which is often pointless and done to satisfy a curious whim.

[Al Foley]

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Then the darkspawn are the makers doing.

 

I don't really think the Chantry would argue that point with you.  After all He did send the Tainted Magisters back. 

The Tevinters remind me of Goa'ulds, a bunch of megalomaniacs who kill thousands of slaves for "research" which is often pointless and done to satisfy a curious whim.

Nice, a man in a Dragon Age forum talking about the titular game makes a reference to SG-1 while wearing a Gaius Baltar Avatar, you sir, are legend.

[General TSAR]

I don't really think the Chantry would argue that point with you.  After all He did send the Tainted Magisters back. 

He did it for the lolz and lolz did happen. 

[drake heath]

That's kinda how gods work, don't ****** them off or it's plagues and suffering for all eternity.

[General TSAR]

That's kinda how gods work, don't ****** them off or it's plagues and suffering for all eternity.

That's a good golden rule tbh, don't screw with powers you don't understand and you won't get shafted and nuked.

 

You know, I think that's the core philosophy of the Dragon Age games and universe. 

[General TSAR]

Anyway back to the Chantry, Justina V has a divine bod and two horses that can not stop.

[Lord Raijin]

Needs of the many > Needs of the few.

 

Besides they are not dead, just calmed and useful. 

 

Shame we could not emotionally behead Anders after he killed the rebel Mages. 

 

If so, then like Colonel Konrad said:

"It takes a strong man to deny what's right in front of him. And if the truth is undeniable, you create your own."

 

Calm and useful? So you endorse force servitude? Too bad we couldn't do the same with Knight commander Meredith. It seems as if she needs a good dose of the calming procedure since shes full of hate.

 

 

The mages are just a bunch of emos.

 

Look at the peasants, they're having a worse time of it than those freeloaders who suck money from the church to fund their education, room and board, and continued existence.

 

If the world were just, the mages would be executed and the money be used to help out the working man, like the church is supposed to do.

 

If anyone needs a revolution it's the people;  viva la Revolución and all that crap.

The mages will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

 

Yeah I can see just how much of an Emo a Templar can be when they don't get their Lyrium fix.

 

 

The Chantry turned these once fine warriors into an obedient drug addicts. Without their daily drug fix they can become a menace to society, far worst than an apostate can do.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

WTF? Is it arrogant to reach out space and other worlds? because that exactly what we are doing!  and who told them their would be a horrific mutation in store for them when they reached the city ? **** happens goes with any research

Thinking you are worthy to claim God's throne for yourself is pretty much the epitome of arrogance.  

[General TSAR]

Calm and useful? So you endorse force servitude? 

(Monotone voice) Forced servitude requires the subject to be an unwilling participant. Tranquil are free to choice their existance; however the Circle and the Templar Order provide the most satisfactory roles for the Tranquil. 

Too bad we couldn't do the same with Knight commander Meredith. It seems as if she needs a good dose of the calming procedure since shes full of hate.

 

(Monotone voice) The Knight Commander's methods are a consequence of the Mages turning to Blood Magic.An unfortunate but entirely necessary course of actions designed to maintain stability and safety. 

 

The idol may have caused the Knight Commander to lose sight of her duty, but this will remain to be debated. 

 

 

The Chantry turned these once fine warriors into an obedient drug addicts. 

 

(Monotone voice) In order to use Templar abilities, Templar recruits must ingest Lyrium for the greater safety of all. 

Without their daily drug fix they can become a menace to society, far worst than an apostate can do.

 

 

(Monotone voice) Templars experiencing withdrawal are hardly capable of being more dangerous to organized society as apostates who are mistaken in their ideals of Mage freedom and destroy religious centers. 

[Hellion Rex]

Dear Talos, what are you wearing, eluvianix?

A rendition of the magister, Dorian Pavus

 

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by Ymirr

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The Chantry turned these once fine warriors into an obedient drug addicts. Without their daily drug fix they can become a menace to society, far worst than an apostate can do.

 

No they can't. Even if they try to become a menace, and apostate can do worse because they have magic.

[Lord Raijin]

No they can't. Even if they try to become a menace, and apostate can do worse because they have magic.

 

2 words   Red lyrium.

 

Currently speaking... Now that Templars/Seekers are out of control and without the Chantry to give them their daily fix they're going after the potent stuffs because the withdrawals are too much for them to manage, and to control.

 

We now have red-lyrium-mutated templars prowling about. You don't think that's dangerous?

 

 

 

This is the product of the Chantry.

 

Again why should I support the Chantry when they caused so much damage?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

2 words   Red lyrium.

 

Currently speaking... Now that Templars/Seekers are out of control and without the Chantry to give them their daily fix they're going after the potent stuffs because the withdrawals are too much for them to manage, and to control.

 

We now have red-lyrium-mutated templars prowling about. You don't think that's dangerous?

 

*snip*

 

This is the product of the Chantry.

 

Again why should I support the Chantry when they caused so much damage?

One word: Abomination

 

How is the Behemoth a product of the Chantry when the Red Templars are not a part of it? They can just go to Orzammar and get the Blue Lyrium instead of go Maker knows where to get the Red Lyrium. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

2 words   Red lyrium.

 

Currently speaking... Now that Templars/Seekers are out of control and without the Chantry to give them their daily fix they're going after the potent stuffs because the withdrawals are too much for them to manage, and to control.

 

We now have red-lyrium-mutated templars prowling about. You don't think that's dangerous?

 

 

 

This is the product of the Chantry.

 

Again why should I support the Chantry when they caused so much damage?

 

You don't know the story behind the Red Templars. Since the Templars broke away from the Chantry and the Red Templars seemingly broke away from them I suspect you are very wrong about that.

[Lord Raijin]

One word: Abomination

 

How is the Behemoth a product of the Chantry when the Red Templars are not a part of it? They can just go to Orzammar and get the Blue Lyrium instead of go Maker knows where to get the Red Lyrium. 

 

uh because the Chantry provided the Templars with Lyrium knowing full well that the compound is highly addictive. This is their way of putting a leash on their obedient soldiers. Sure the Templar's can go to Orzammar to get their stash, but where are they going to get the funds to purchase such valuable stuffs? It isn't cheap. Lyrium is highly expensive. What do the templars do now?

 

So now you have templars who are no longer part of the Chantry, and barely have enough money, going through having severe withdrawls. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that a bunch of templar's from Kirkwall stole the Red Lyrium statue of Knight-Commander Meredith, and decided to carve pieces of Lyrium to satisfied their drug addictive feeling.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

What if it turns out the Imshael gave it to them? A demon that was summoned to Orlais in the first place by a free mage?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

uh because the Chantry provided the Templars with Lyrium knowing full well that the compound is highly addictive. This is their way of putting a leash on their obedient soldiers. Sure the Templar's can go to Orzammar to get their stash, but where are they going to get the funds to purchase such valuable stuffs? It isn't cheap. Lyrium is highly expensive. What do the templars do now?

 

So now you have templars who are no longer part of the Chantry, and barely have enough money going through having severe withdrawls. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that a bunch of templar's from Kirkall stole the Red Lyrium statue of Knight-Commander Meredith, and decided to carve pieces of Lyrium to satisfied their drug addictive feeling.

I like how you think that's the only reason they are given Lyrium and not because it is what gives the Templars their ability to stop Mages from using magic. 

 

No doubt there are hundreds if not thousands of people who still support the Templars, and with people support comes financial support. Plus they can always get Lyrium from Mage camps too. Speaking of, where will mages get their Lyrium? 

 

Exactly, they are no longer part of the Chantry. They are renegades. I don't blame a nation for the actions of renegade soldiers who broke away from them, so why should I do different here? 

[Lord Raijin]

What if it turns out the Imshael gave it to them? A demon that was summoned to Orlais in the first place by a free mage?

 

I never heard of Imshael. Please explain.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I never heard of Imshael. Please explain.

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Imshael

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Imshael is one of the Forbidden Ones. One of four ultra scary powerful demons that were suspected of teaching humanity blood magic. He's mentioned in the codex for Dragon Age 2. He also appeared in the Masked Empire where a Dalish Keeper summoned him into a spirit trap to learn about how to access the Eluvians. Eventually he tricks the Empress' CElene's champion into letting him out where he slaughters the Dalish Clan that summoned him and goes onto a rampage into the Orlesian country side.

[Al Foley]

uh because the Chantry provided the Templars with Lyrium knowing full well that the compound is highly addictive. This is their way of putting a leash on their obedient soldiers. Sure the Templar's can go to Orzammar to get their stash, but where are they going to get the funds to purchase such valuable stuffs? It isn't cheap. Lyrium is highly expensive. What do the templars do now?

 

So now you have templars who are no longer part of the Chantry, and barely have enough money, going through having severe withdrawls. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that a bunch of templar's from Kirkwall stole the Red Lyrium statue of Knight-Commander Meredith, and decided to carve pieces of Lyrium to satisfied their drug addictive feeling.

And how is that the Chantry's fault?  If they stole it, then that hardly sounds legal, or that it meets with the Chantry's approval. 

[Lord Raijin]

I like how you think that's the only reason they are given Lyrium and not because it is what gives the Templars their ability to stop Mages from using magic. 

 

No doubt there are hundreds if not thousands of people who still support the Templars, and with people support comes financial support. Plus they can always get Lyrium from Mage camps too. Speaking of, where will mages get their Lyrium? 

 

Exactly, they are no longer part of the Chantry. They are renegades. I don't blame a nation for the actions of renegade soldiers who broke away from them, so why should I do different here? 

 

Who are those hundreds if not thousands of people who still support the Templars? Or are you just voicing your opinion? The fact to the matter is Knight-Captain Cullen even acknowledged that the templars no longer get the welcome approach by people anymore. They do not have that many supporters. So many of them get the door slam on them now.

 

Their are far more people who are Mage Sympathizers rather than Templar Sympathizers.

[Lord Raijin]

And how is that the Chantry's fault?  If they stole it, then that hardly sounds legal, or that it meets with the Chantry's approval. 

 

You're joking right? I just explained why.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Who are those hundreds if not thousands of people who still support the Templars? Or are you just voicing your opinion? The fact to the matter is Knight-Captain Cullen even acknowledged that the templars no longer get the welcome approach by people anymore. They do not have that many supporters. So many of them get the door slam on them now.

 

Their are far more people who are Mage Sympathizers rather than Templar Sympathizers.

We know people fear mages. And we know those people know Templars stop mages. So logically, they'll still support the Templars. Same as those citizens who are moved by the mages' plights will suport the mages. So technically, yes I am guessing but it is an educated guess. And those that Cullen was referring to were the people of Kirkwall, whose Templars were much worse than the Templars of over nations. Remember that DA2 was showing the worst of both sides, not the norm. 

 

Who are those people who outnumber the Templar supporters? Or are you just voicing your opinion?