She can die in Awakening,if left alive maybe we will see her with the Grey Wardens at some point,or in the Deep Roads looking for her sister.
Or maybe with the Elf rebellion,she could be a valuable ally giving the support of rebel Elves to The Inquisition if the Inquisitor promises they will get better treatment by influencing rulers of certain cities and such. (just an idea)
While I would love to see Velanna again, I doubt that she or Sigrun will ever show up again. I was annoyed in DA2 when they brought back the three non-returning male recruits from Awakening, but neither of the ladies, and I expect to continue to be annoyed in Inquisition.
It's too bad, too. Velanna is an awesome character, in my opinion. She has every reason to be enraged, but her rage is undercut by the fact that it was (deliberately) misdirected and caused her to lose everything. Given how absolutely terrible the circumstances of her recruitment are, never mind her sister turning ghoul and joining up with the Architect, I'm shocked that she's able to soften up at all in Awakening.
And, as abrasive as she is, she has my favorite epilogue card in Origins/Awakening:
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Ammonite, J-Reyno, Bonsai Dryad et 6 autres aiment ceci
She can die in Awakening,if left alive maybe we will see her with the Grey Wardens at some point,or in the Deep Roads looking for her sister.
Or maybe with the Elf rebellion,she could be a valuable ally giving the support of rebel Elves to The Inquisition if the Inquisitor promises they will get better treatment by influencing rulers of certain cities and such. (just an idea)
She doesn't die in Awakening though if you leave her at the Keep.
If left to defend Vigil's Keep, and the Warden chooses to save the City of Amaranthine, the surviving defenders watch in horror as a section of stone collapses upon her. When the rubble is later cleared, no body is found. Velanna is just gone. This occurs even if the walls are never breached.
She's just MIA, but not confirmed dead.
OP, I'm not sure if you knew, but prior to going into DA2, they were talking about Velanna merging with Justice, not Anders. That's probably why they left her result ambiguous in all of her endings.
OP, I'm not sure if you knew, but prior to going into DA2, they were talking about Velanna merging with Justice, not Anders. That's probably why they left her result ambiguous in all of her endings.
Yes I actually knew! In all honesty I was glad they didn't chose her. I didn't want her character to become a train wreck like Ander's. It was sad though not seeing her through a cameo at least. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Inquisition.
1. That's irrelevant if you killed both her and the Architect like I did.
2. Why her and not Nathaniel,Sigrun,Alistair,Loghain or Oghren?
3. It is if you killed her,How?And Solas and Sera are Elves too so I don't see why this matters.
The only thing irrelevant here is you saying she's dead when it's not been confirmed. She's just MIA.
And really? We've had Nathaniel appear in DA2, Alistair will be in 3 games now so that's irrelevant. I actually would love for everyone to come back but it's just not possible is it. So Solas and Sera should be the only people to represent Elves in the game?
Well she does have every right to be bitter and resentful.
Love or hate her (or Anders,) I do love this line of his right before you meet Merrill for the first time in DA2:
Anders: In my experience, all Dalish women are crazy.
So very very true.
Velanna really isn't that bad, if you work on her friendship. For PC players, there is the Bag of Kittens mod for Awakening, which gives kittens out with +1 to affection. When she would snark at me, I'd give her a couple of kittens, take her on some Vel friendly quests and she warmed up some. Besides, I love the idea of giving kittens to a grumpy elf, because it sounds like something both my Warden and my Hawke would have done to try to cheer her up.
I have no recollection of an "Velana". I recall a magical cleavage that could talk and claimed to be a dalish elf.
You might as well have said, "I have no recollection of Morigan.* I recall a magical cleavage that could talk and claimed to be a witch."
That was on the awful boob-window mage robes from Origins. Put Velanna into a set of Senior Enchanters robe and her "magical cleavage" is gone.
Here's a picture of a female elf in them. It's probably on accident, but the elf in the picture looks a bit like Velanna.
Besides, didn't you hear Zevran? Even Wynne had a magical bosom. Explains why none of them need bras (well, except for Morrigan. She puts on her bra for sex!)
I am okay with Velanna coming back, even though she was one of my least favorite characters. She was MIA, but not dead if you left her at Vigil's Keep. So I'd be open to the idea.
Er, she wasn't though, unless you are referring to possibly "killing her." She has been the Divine's spy and bodyguard for years since the end of Origins. Plus, she was also helping Cassandra as a Seeker of Truth to look for the Warden as well as Hawke. Even in Origins, when you recruit her, she wears the Seeker's Amulet, which should be a big clue. The Chantry member she saved at the end of Leliana's Song was Revered Mother Dorthea, now known more famously as Divine Justina V, said to be one of the greatest players of The Game.
If you were one of the players that "killed" her, it was most likely in Andraste's Temple at Haven. Which is full of lyrium, holy spirits and sacred ash wraiths. If it was shown that she was decapitated, that was an in-game finishing move and not based on the story. If you "killed" her, yes you saw her HP drop to zero and watched her fall. Who's to say that the Warden only thought Leliana was dead?
I understand her history very well. However, if I killed her, then dead is dead. Making up possible plots that didn't happen in DA:O doesn't make her alive in my play-through. Using that thinking we should revive everyone of importance who died in DA:O and DA2. Perhaps in DA:I this is magically explained, who knows.
Here's another thing, if one didn't have the Exiled Prince DLC, she doesn't show up at all in DA2, go figure. I killed Zevran in DA:O, yet he shows up in DA2 still. For a character's appearance to take such importance in game story over game choices, the devs botched it in a number of ways it seems. She's in DA;I so there it is, no matter how it breaks the choices I made. At least with Velanna, she was never shown to have actually died, so she's plausible. Even Anders died at the Keep in one of my DAA runs, yet there he was in DA2. It's funny how if the PC's GW does the US in DA:O, s/he can be imported into DAA .
I understand but do you know/get why she became that way? I get many people hate her because she's not the most welcoming but at least give her a chance after you get to know her.
My Dalish rogue did not like her. Her voice was annoying.
She's the fire that elves need anyway. The Dalish are xenophobic and always preach about taking what's rightfully theirs. But they are all talk. Velanna was about action.
I understand her history very well. However, if I killed her, then dead is dead. Making up possible plots that didn't happen in DA:O doesn't make her alive in my play-through. Using that thinking we should revive everyone of importance who died in DA:O and DA2. Perhaps in DA:I this is magically explained, who knows.
Well, I can already tell you that if you killed Anders, he stays dead.
Here's another thing, if one didn't have the Exiled Prince DLC, she doesn't show up at all in DA2, go figure. I killed Zevran in DA:O, yet he shows up in DA2 still. For a character's appearance to take such importance in game story over game choices, the devs botched it in a number of ways it seems. She's in DA;I so there it is, no matter how it breaks the choices I made. At least with Velanna, she was never shown to have actually died, so she's plausible. Even Anders died at the Keep in one of my DAA runs, yet there he was in DA2. It's funny how if the PC's GW does the US in DA:O, s/he can be imported into DAA .
Leliana does show up at the end, regardless if you have the DLC or not.
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Zevran's return, if you killed him, was a bug. The devs have said that before and they did not mean for it to happen. The reason why it showed up was that:
1) DA2 literally had 12 months of development time. Look it up. That's why bugs like this slipped through the cracks.
2) It was never fixed because EA pushed BioWare to drop support for DA2 and start working on Inquisition. The DA team didn't have a chance to patch it.
If you want to be mad at them for something that was ultimately out of their control due to the breakneck pace and EA not allowing them to support DA2 fully, then knock yourself out. It certainly wasn't on purpose.
I wouldn't consider importing your Warden into Awakening as a ret-con. It was a gameplay choice, so players that did the US didn't feel forced to either go back to the DR or reroll just to play the expansion. Sometimes, you have to let stuff go in the name of gameplay and story segregation. Otherwise, all you'll do is drive yourself bonkers.
Anders...is debatable. Like I said in another thread though, it's their playground. I can, however, dig up a source where DG promises that an Anders killed by Hawke stays dead. And so far, outside of Leliana, there isn't a character or NPC that you can "kill" (not just stab, but attack until they have no HP,) that's returning in Inquisition. I think you're really making much ado about nothing.
She's the fire that elves need anyway. The Dalish are xenophobic and always preach about taking what's rightfully theirs. But they are all talk. Velanna was about action.
A reason to not like a character is because of how annoying their voice is. Gotcha.
It's their right though. I can see where they are coming from: Unless you get high affection with her, she tends to snap at the Warden constantly (at least if you're a human. Haven't played a elf Warden to completion in a long time.) That can make her voice get grating and annoying by magnitudes. Someone sounding constantly annoyed at you does get old. I'll admit, I really didn't like her at first because of this.
I found by recruiting her as soon as you can, and working on her affection, she becomes a much kinder person, and her voice softens. She'll even admit that humans aren't so bad, she's just devastated by the loss of her sister and wanted someone to blame.
It's their right though. I can see where they are coming from: Unless you get high affection with her, she tends to snap at the Warden constantly (at least if you're a human. Haven't played a elf Warden to completion in a long time.) That can make her voice get grating and annoying by magnitudes. Someone sounding constantly annoyed at you does get old. I'll admit, I really didn't like her at first because of this.
I found by recruiting her as soon as you can, and working on her affection, she becomes a much kinder person, and her voice softens. She'll even admit that humans aren't so bad, she's just devastated by the loss of her sister and wanted someone to blame.
Ah. I thought they just meant the voice in general was annoying and that was the reason they didn't liked the character. My bad. But yes I can see where you're coming from I felt the same way with my Queen of the Wilds until we had a high relationship and the tone in her voice changed.