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Again, you're mistaking the Chant and the Chantry. Those are two completely seperate things. One if a book/poem thingy, the other is a religious and political organization. If the members of that organization are racist (which we've seen) then that organization is racist. 

The reason there are no male divines is because the Chant itself (the 'White' one) says men cannot be a part of the priesthood, that's why all members of the Chantries hierarchy are women. I have little doubt that there are elven chanters (priestesses), but they don't rise as high in the hierarchy is because the upper members of the chantry are racist (in general).

 

There is a wide gulf between the kind of racism the Chantry exhibits - which is quite closely to IRL forms of racism - and the kind of organized racism necessary for the Chantry (as a polity) to be actually responsible for the oppression of the elves. The Chantry doesn't have power over Alienage elves - the local countries do. If the Chantry collapsed, Ferelden would still control the Denerim Alienage. Vaughn could still come up and abuse elven women. The Denerim guards could still murder them in a riot. 



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Getting this topic a little back on track......

 

If we visit the Vigil in Inquisition I hope we see Velanna, Oghren, Sigrun and Nathaniel there running the place while the Warden goes off and does whatever hes been doing since the end of Witch Hunt. It would be interesting to hear what they have been up to for the last decade. Also I want to see my old favourite drunken Dwarf Warden Oghren putting recruits under the table in the Vigils Tavern.

 

Might also see Anders there if he survived the events of Dragon Age 2. Hopefully full of sorrow and regret that he blew up a chantry and planning to go off into the deep roads on his Calling. (I always spared him out of practicality. He was more useful than a Chantry brother/Prince of Starkhaven who could not make up his mind whether or not to take back his city or not)



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Getting this topic a little back on track......

 

If we visit the Vigil in Inquisition I hope we see Velanna, Oghren, Sigrun and Nathaniel there running the place while the Warden goes off and does whatever hes been doing since the end of Witch Hunt. It would be interesting to hear what they have been up to for the last decade. Also I want to see my old favourite drunken Dwarf Warden Oghren putting recruits under the table in the Vigils Tavern.

 

Might also see Anders there if he survived the events of Dragon Age 2. Hopefully full of sorrow and regret that he blew up a chantry and planning to go off into the deep roads on his Calling. (I always spared him out of practicality. He was more useful than a Chantry brother/Prince of Starkhaven who could not make up his mind whether or not to take back his city or not)

 

Eh, I told Anders to leave. No terrorists for me please. But he is better than chantry boy. In my head I see him going back to Starkhaven and putting up posters on the chanter's board asking for help in taking back his city. LOLOL  :lol:



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:lol: I would laugh myself into a coma if that happened.

 

Honestly he should have just gone back to Starkhaven after the Flint mercs were dead, put an arrow in his cousins eye and claimed the city by right of blood. No one would have doubted his claim given his familys history. But he was too much of a goody two shoes to go along that path. His loss :lol:



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:lol: I would laugh myself into a coma if that happened.

 

Honestly he should have just gone back to Starkhaven after the Flint mercs were dead, put an arrow in his cousins eye and claimed the city by right of blood. No one would have doubted his claim given his familys history. But he was too much of a goody two shoes to go along that path. His loss :lol:

 

 

Exactly. I wished at the end of the game there had been choice where you could have told Sebastian to kill Anders himself if he wanted it so badly.

 

My hope is we get a drunk Sebastian cameo in Inquisition. :devil: :devil:



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Exactly. I wished at the end of the game there had been choice where you could have told Sebastian to kill Anders himself if he wanted it so badly.

 

My hope is we get a drunk Sebastian cameo in Inquisition. :devil: :devil:

 

Yeah, I don't know why they didn't include the dialogue option at least. You can say the exact thing to Alistair a few times, when he protests (like with recruiting Zevran).



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Getting this topic a little back on track......

 

If we visit the Vigil in Inquisition I hope we see Velanna, Oghren, Sigrun and Nathaniel there running the place while the Warden goes off and does whatever hes been doing since the end of Witch Hunt. It would be interesting to hear what they have been up to for the last decade. Also I want to see my old favourite drunken Dwarf Warden Oghren putting recruits under the table in the Vigils Tavern.

 

Might also see Anders there if he survived the events of Dragon Age 2. Hopefully full of sorrow and regret that he blew up a chantry and planning to go off into the deep roads on his Calling. (I always spared him out of practicality. He was more useful than a Chantry brother/Prince of Starkhaven who could not make up his mind whether or not to take back his city or not)

 

Anders barely spent time at the Vigil and he doesn't identify with the GWs. I don't think that works for a cameo.

Same with Velanna. She'd be after her sister, not sticking with the GWs after more than a decade. 



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Might also see Anders there if he survived the events of Dragon Age 2. Hopefully full of sorrow and regret that he blew up a chantry and planning to go off into the deep roads on his Calling. (I always spared him out of practicality. He was more useful than a Chantry brother/Prince of Starkhaven who could not make up his mind whether or not to take back his city or not)

I kill Anders for the same reasons. It's only practical to 1) Get rid of a wearmongering terrorist abomination, ans 2) I'm not risking Kirkwall getting razed by a raging Sebastian for one person. Anders has killed enough innocent Kirkwallers already with his bomb and the chaos it creates.


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I kill Anders because he ruined my humble "immigrant makes good" life. I can ultimately side with his cause, but I'm going to kill him in the process anyways. I never wanted to be a revolutionary, and if someone pushed me into a situation like that, I'd lash out. Just for personal reasons. Just for cramping my style and not leaving me alone.

 

I don't even have to mention terrorism. It's the fact that he's so invasive and won't shut up that makes him worth killing.



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I kill Anders because he ruined my humble "immigrant makes good" life. I can ultimately side with his cause, but I'm going to kill him in the process anyways. I never wanted to be a revolutionary, and if someone pushed me into a situation like that, I'd lash out. Just for personal reasons. Just for cramping my style and not leaving me alone.

 

I don't even have to mention terrorism. It's the fact that he's so invasive and won't shut up that makes him worth killing.

 

I think this describes my feelings on Anders pretty nicely:

 

Anders: I can't believe you're still not taking sides.
Isabela: I told you, I only like to be on top.
Anders: I mean against the templars! You like freedom, right? You hate slavery.
Anders: Why wouldn't you side with the mages?
Isabela: Maybe I just don't like you.

 



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Yeah, I don't know why they didn't include the dialogue option at least. You can say the exact thing to Alistair a few times, when he protests (like with recruiting Zevran).

 

Yes. That's one of the reasons why I felt there should have been dialogue.   And if Sebastian has actually prepared to kill Anders we could have had the choice to let him do it or stop him.



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Anders barely spent time at the Vigil and he doesn't identify with the GWs. I don't think that works for a cameo.

Same with Velanna. She'd be after her sister, not sticking with the GWs after more than a decade. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Anders with the GW because of his crimes. They might be willing to provide him with asylum if they need wardens badly enough. 

 

Velanna is more likely to be off on her own IMO, as she can take care of herself and isn't a fugitive as Anders is. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Velanna found that sticking with the GW would directly benefit her personal quest for finding her sister. 

 

I would much rather see Velanna in DAI than Anders, but I specifically have an All-Wardens survive playthrough specifically to see which Wardens might make a cameo in DAI. 



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I don't see the Wardens taking in Anders, nor do I see Anders seeking refuge amongst them. Even when they're desperate, the wardens want people they can rely on, and Anders has proven himself unreliable. And Anders made it pretty clear in DA2 that he considers serving in the Wardens to be one step above being in the circle.



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Now that I think about Velanna would make for one hell of a Warden Archivist. Think about it. She was brought up from birth to be a lore keeper and researcher. She's fond of stories and reading. Her 'story gift' is a blank journal.

 

I can see her down the road (or Inquisition) serving the Wardens as an Archivist and only going out in the field to research on the darkspawn. She'd only serve in a combat situation when absolutely necessary.

 

Just my thoughts on her character. Some people might disagree.


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I don't know about Velanna but I definitely want Grey DeLisle back in some form or another.
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I'd like to see her and the other Awakening wardens (Nathaniel, Sigrun, Oghren) to return

 

But like Chris said, I definitely want Grey DeLisle to return


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I don't see the Wardens taking in Anders, nor do I see Anders seeking refuge amongst them. Even when they're desperate, the wardens want people they can rely on, and Anders has proven himself unreliable. And Anders made it pretty clear in DA2 that he considers serving in the Wardens to be one step above being in the circle.

 

I think Anders should head to the kingdom of Rivain - the traditional areas, to be more precise, to try to get a better understanding of his symbiosis with Justice from the seers who seem to have accomplished the same for over a millennia; they might be able to provide him answers that he can't find anywhere else.

 

As for Velanna, she might have found Seranni, who seems to be shepherding the 'awakened darkspawn', particularly in the wake of the Architect's death. She might be a bridge between the Wardens of Amaranthine and the sentient darkspawn who aren't bound by the Song.


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As for Velanna, she might have found Seranni, who seems to be shepherding the 'awakened darkspawn', particularly in the wake of the Architect's death. She might be a bridge between the Wardens of Amaranthine and the sentient darkspawn who aren't bound by the Song.

 

I think if the Architect dies, then Seranni dies with him which Velanna will stay with the Wardens



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I don't know about Velanna but I definitely want Grey DeLisle back in some form or another.

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Velanna would still be awesome though, but I doubt she'll be there.


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I think Anders should head to the kingdom of Rivain - the traditional areas, to be more precise, to try to get a better understanding of his symbiosis with Justice from the seers who seem to have accomplished the same for over a millennia; they might be able to provide him answers that he can't find anywhere else.

As for Velanna, she might have found Seranni, who seems to be shepherding the 'awakened darkspawn', particularly in the wake of the Architect's death. She might be a bridge between the Wardens of Amaranthine and the sentient darkspawn who aren't bound by the Song.

I believe that even if we kill the Architect Seranni takes care of the sentient darkspawn and maybe continues his work
It's a safe concept if Bioware want to preserve an idea of sentient revolution among the dsrkspawn without retconning our choices in killing the Architect or letting him live

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I'd love for Velanna to appear again, but as others have said; Grey DeLisle in general would be awesome.



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Count me in for the Awakening Wardens. Those guys were epic, and we shouldn't forget them.



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I think Anders should head to the kingdom of Rivain - the traditional areas, to be more precise, to try to get a better understanding of his symbiosis with Justice from the seers who seem to have accomplished the same for over a millennia; they might be able to provide him answers that he can't find anywhere else.

As for Velanna, she might have found Seranni, who seems to be shepherding the 'awakened darkspawn', particularly in the wake of the Architect's death. She might be a bridge between the Wardens of Amaranthine and the sentient darkspawn who aren't bound by the Song.


If i were in anders shoes, that's exactly what i wouldve done, visit the rivaini seers.

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Serrani's fate is not revealed, but she looks kind of beyond hope to me, even if she isn't a regular ghoul.

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Serrani's fate is not revealed, but she looks kind of beyond hope to me, even if she isn't a regular ghoul.

 

While Utha might be more functional because she's a former Grey Warden, I wonder if Seranni might have been experimented on to allow her to retain her intelligence and remain lucid, despite undergoing ghoulification? Most ghouls are supposed to be near mindless and/or hostile, yet she is neither?

 

I kind of like the idea of Velanna having left the Wardens to join Seranni along with the Architect.