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[IncreaseBloodyBlue]

There is a french name, Léliane, derived from Clélia, itself derived from the latin "Clavis" which means "Key". Pretty fitting for the resident lockpicker. Apparently Léliana was also once used in Quebec. No etymology was given, so I'm assuming it's the same.

[Kallimachus]

A note about Seraph: The word is a hellenized form of the Hebrew Saraf (the -im suffix is the conventional masc. pl. form in Hebrew). The word stems from the root s.r.f. which means "to burn" or "to immolate", thus Saraf = burning one. In Hebraic lore they are described as burning winged serpents (with 6 wings), and in fact in Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible and the Apocrypha they are sometimes transcribed as "drakones" (the same word from which "dragon" is derived).

In modern Hebrew it is also the name of the snake Atractaspis engaddensis.

[IncreaseBloodyBlue]

A note about Seraph: The word is a hellenized form of the Hebrew Saraf (the -im suffix is the conventional masc. pl. form in Hebrew). The word stems from the root s.r.f. which means "to burn" or "to immolate", thus Saraf = burning one. In Hebraic lore they are described as burning winged serpents (with 6 wings), and in fact in Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible and the Apocrypha they are sometimes transcribed as "drakones" (the same word from which "dragon" is derived).

In modern Hebrew it is also the name of the snake Atractaspis engaddensis.

I don't even care if we're reaching, that is beyond cool.

[Solas]

I wonder if the Sera = Seraph thing goes back to the DAO names. Mahariel is an angel guarding the gates of heaven. Tabris is an angel of free will.

 

 

Seems to be a lot of relation to elves and angels.

Interesting! This I did not know.

[WildOrchid]

Aw, Seraphina is such a sweet name!

 

Seraphina is indeed very beautiful name. Hopefully we can address her by that name too.

 

 

And I sure hope Cassandra entangles women too. <33

 

 

Yes, please.

 

 

Being greek and all, didn't knew the meaning of the name Dorian.

[Thomas Andresen]

Seraphina is indeed very beautiful name. Hopefully we can address her by that name too.

Being greek and all, didn't knew the meaning of the name Dorian.

For Sera, it wouldn't be the first time a shortened name is a person's originally given name, regardless of whether it's meaning is recognized.

Also, I wouldn't know, but I imagine Ancient Greek is quite different from modern Greek.

[Kallimachus]

For Sera, it wouldn't be the first time a shortened name is a person's originally given name, regardless of whether it's meaning is recognized.

Also, I wouldn't know, but I imagine Ancient Greek is quite different from modern Greek.

 

Actually, as someone with a degree in classical philology I find that meaning odd. If I had to give "Dorian" an interpretation I would say 1. someone from Doris (a place in Greece - I don't know if it's still called that), 2. a member of the Dorian tribes that invaded Greece around 1000 BCE and settled the Peloponesus (and later spread to Sicily and Southern Italy), or 3. A native speaker of the Doric dialect (one of the three principal dialects of Ancient Greek, spoken mainly in the areas settled by the Dorians).

 

I can't think of any word that would mean "sea" and derives from the root "dor"... but that of course does not mean one doesn't exist.

[WildOrchid]

Actually, as someone with a degree in classical philology I find that meaning odd. If I had to give "Dorian" an interpretation I would say 1. someone from Doris (a place in Greece - I don't know if it's still called that), 2. a member of the Dorian tribes that invaded Greece around 1000 BCE and settled the Peloponesus (and later spread to Sicily and Southern Italy), or 3. A native speaker of the Doric dialect (one of the three principal dialects of Ancient Greek, spoken mainly in the areas settled by the Dorians).

 

I can't think of any word that would mean "sea" and derives from the root "dor"... but that of course does not mean one doesn't exist.

 

 

That's why it seemed odd to me, i've never heard of the name meaning being from sea.

 

Also yep, it's still called Doris.

[UnspeakableCat]

The chart looks Great! I didn't think Sera would have a meaning at all...but I was wrong lol!

 

Sera also means 'evening' in Italian.

[pallascedar]

Actually, as someone with a degree in classical philology I find that meaning odd. If I had to give "Dorian" an interpretation I would say 1. someone from Doris (a place in Greece - I don't know if it's still called that), 2. a member of the Dorian tribes that invaded Greece around 1000 BCE and settled the Peloponesus (and later spread to Sicily and Southern Italy), or 3. A native speaker of the Doric dialect (one of the three principal dialects of Ancient Greek, spoken mainly in the areas settled by the Dorians).

 

I can't think of any word that would mean "sea" and derives from the root "dor"... but that of course does not mean one doesn't exist.

 

I think the more likely explanation is that babynames.com is a very unreliable source. I've seen name websites that list my name as meaing "Swamp" in German. Every person that knows a tiny bit of German responds to that with a resounding "What?"

[Solas]

^ There's Scottish Gaelic (Gah-lik, kinda, there are about 50-60k speakers in Scotland today, many in the Outer Hebrides) or Gàidhlig  and Irish language or Gaeilge (Gay-lik, I know less about it), Irish language came from Old Irish and it in turn is where Scottish Gaelic came from. Well and there's Manx language too (also from Irish language) but that's tiny and it's almost never what people are referring to when they say "Gaelic". The Celts were the Iron Age tribe-based societies who spoke Celtic languages, like the Gauls. They had similar cultures. The Celtic languages come from Proto-Celtic. Some of the Celtic languages like Gàidhlig and Gaeilge still have native speakers. In the present day the "Celtic nations" are regions where their own Celtic languages and heritage/traits have survived, like Scotland and Ireland.

[Kallimachus]

Sometimes the same name has different roots. Mine is Gaelic or Celtic (not sure the exact difference... Irish vs Scots?), but it has different meanings for both. And sometimes these websites don't list the different versions.

 

"Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt Belgae, aliam Aquitani, tertiam qui ipsorum lingua Celtae, nostra Galli appellantur."

 

translation:

"All Gaul is divided into three parts, one - the Belgae inhabit, the Aquitani another, the third - those who in their own language are called Celts, (and) in our (language) - Gauls."

 

That is the (rather famous) opening sentence of Caesar's "De Bello Gallico" (oh, how I toiled on its translation back in school)

 

In modern speech, Celtic refers to the entire family of languages, while in English the term Gaelic refers to one branch of Celtic family of languages, which is composed of Scottish, Irish, and Manx.

[Kallimachus]

^ There's Scottish Gaelic (Gah-lik, kinda) or Gàidhlig and Irish language or Gaeilge (Gay-lik), they are both from Old Irish. Well and there's Manx language too but that's tiny and it's almost never what people are referring to when they say "Gaelic". The Celts were the Iron Age tribe-based societies who spoke Celtic languages, like the Gauls. They had similar cultures. The Celtic languages come from Proto-Celtic. Some of the Celtic languages like Gàidhlig and Gaeilge still have native speakers. In the present day the "Celtic nations" are regions where their own Celtic languages and heritage/traits have survived, like Scotland and Ireland.

 

Well, there are actually three more extant Celtic languages which are not Gaelic, namely Welsh, Cornish, and Breton

[Solas]

Yes I know, I said that some of them still have native speakers and gave two examples. I gave Goidelic examples because those are the ones I know more about. My list of examples was not intended nor stated to be exhaustive and I didn't say that all Celtic languages were Goidelic. The person was asking about Irish vs Scots and so that was the focus of my post, also that's the area I'm familiar with so it's natural that those be the ones I talked about. 

[Caja]

Definitely in DA anyway. Morrigan's serves as a callback to myth and another powerful sorceress. Alistair means "protector", which not only has a meaning similar to Warden, but also reinforces him as the princely type. Fenris means wolf, Anders' indicates his origins and that he's a secretive fellow since it's an obvious nickname.

 

ME was more subtle. The names' major function was to reflect culture, and less to define the character's nature in one nifty word.

 

When I saw the chart in the first post, I noticed that Morrigan was missing so I did a quick google search. (Edit: By the way, I love the chart.)

Wikipedia really has a whole article on "Morrigan". I had no idea. Anyway, here's the part about the meaning of her name:

There is some disagreement over the meaning of the Morrígan's name. Mor may derive from an Indo-European root connoting terror or monstrousness, cognate with the Old English maere (which survives in the modern English word "nightmare") and the Scandinavian mara and the Old Russian "mara" ("nightmare"); while rígan translates as 'queen'. This can be reconstructed in Proto-Celtic as *Moro-rīganī-s. Accordingly, Morrígan is often translated as "Phantom Queen". This is the derivation generally favoured in current scholarship.

In the Middle Irish period the name is often spelled Mórrígan with a lengthening diacritic over the 'o', seemingly intended to mean "Great Queen" (Old Irish mór, 'great'; this would derive from a hypothetical Proto-Celtic *Māra Rīganī-s). Whitley Stokes believed this latter spelling was due to a false etymology popular at the time. There have also been attempts by modern writers to link the Morrígan with the Welsh literary figure Morgan le Fay from Arthurian romance, in whose name 'mor' may derive from a Welch word for 'sea', but the names are derived from different cultures and branches of the Celtic linguistic tree.

 

 

I like especially the part where it says that the name is often translated to "Phantom Queen". A hint maybe  ? 

 

Source

[Former_Fiend]

In regards to Cassandra's name, I personally use behind the name, which gives us;

 

 

Meaning & History

From the Greek Κασσανδρα (Kassandra), which possibly meant "shining upon man", derived from κεκασμαι (kekasmai) "to shine" and ανηρ (aner) "man" (genitive ανδρος). In Greek myth Cassandra was a Trojan princess, the daughter of Priam and Hecuba. She was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo, but when she spurned his advances he cursed her so nobody would believe her prophecies.

In the Middle Ages this name was common in England due to the popularity of medieval tales about the Trojan War. It subsequently became rare, but was revived in the 20th century.

 

http://www.behindthe.../name/cassandra

[Felya87]

not very interesting, but "sera" is simply "evening" in Italian.

[IncreaseBloodyBlue]

not very interesting, but "sera" is simply "evening" in Italian.

 

Though this is more probable, the meanings don't have to exclude each other. The seraphim/dragon idea is just too badass to pass up either way.

[franciscoamell]

I thought Cassandra was 'she who strangles men' for a second hehe.

[Sequin]

not very interesting, but "sera" is simply "evening" in Italian.

 

In that case, I will name my character Mattina, which means "morning" in Italian. And this way, the evening and the morning will go together forever and always.

 

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 okay, yeah, that was corny.

[Felya87]

In that case, I will name my character Mattina, which means "morning" in Italian. And this way, the evening and the morning will go together forever and always.

 

...

 

 okay, yeah, that was corny.

 

or Notte. (night). still, is a cute idea.

[Hydromatic]

Good lord i love Cassandras haha.