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[themageguy]

Has anyone tried a non passive build?
What are your impressions of it?

[ClydeInTheShell]

Only build I use because I go melee.

While I've never ran a melee-based Paladin, the no-passive build makes the most sense because of all the combos he's capable of. It gives him 6x6 combos vs every defense, and you can throw in fire shield melee + power = another combo for lulz.

[cronshaw]

My impression was that a no passive build was one of the standards

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Disgusting. Spec out of snap freeze instead.

[Deerber]

I run melee and I don't spec out of passives. I never do, it's just not optimal in my opinion.

[megawug]

Yeah, I think in the past no passives was pretty standard.  But he has so many powers at his disposal, not using one and putting the points into passives isn't a big deal.  Personally, I found him difficult to play because he has abilities to deal with every situation.  He's almost too good.

[capn233]

Disgusting. Spec out of snap freeze instead.

 

Yeah I suppose, the sad thing is it doesn't seem like units fly as far if they aren't frozen though.

 

When I built mine way back when I skipped Incinerate because I figured if I wanted to get a fire explosion I could just bash them with my shield.  No passive may be better.  If I reaccumulate some respecs I might switch.

[GordianKnot42]

I did that when I first started with him but found him not as effective caster/TB combo artist as the others. I have a lot more fun and am more effective with a Crutch Freeze + Wraith combination (and the occasional shield smack for kicks).

[Koenig888]

I've tried various configurations and am currently using the no-passives build.   Snap Freeze and Fire Shield are a must for me.  The rest of the powers/passives I can play around with and my current preference is for the no-passives and 46646 builds.

[themageguy]

I had no idea the non-passive set was standard....I usually run with 5 in the passive for power damage and 3 incinerate, OR no incinerate, weapon damage rank 6 and the wraith.

At the moment I don't mind the non-passive build .... It still feels weird without my wraith :o/

This n7 has so many awesome ways to build him.

[Ashevajak]

Works pretty well, I find.  I'm not using it at the moment, because I'm doing the themed challenges (Paladin/Crusader gold solo) and that particular combo I find works better with some extra weight capacity.  But once I'm done I'll switch back, as I mostly use a Talon, Wraith or Arc Pistol on him anyway.

[themageguy]

Yeah I use the wraith and arc pistol on my toon builds.

[Willyums]

My excuse for cheese-abusing the geth everyday is that I have a pretty weak manifest (no rare weapons over 4 I think and only one max level gear   ) and the Paladin is my best option for playing Gold and I needs them credits.

Anyways I used to forego the shield but I realized not too long ago I'd been a fool. Now I skip incinerate, which I haven't seen mentioned but it could be a common build for all I know;

 

ED 4b 5a 6b

SF 4b 5a 6a

Passive spec'd for power damage and weight bonuses

Fire Shield w/ melee damage

 

Cheese -> Melee -> Energy Drain -> Feel ashamed -> Repeat 

[Dunvi]

My excuse for cheese-abusing the geth everyday is that I have a pretty weak manifest (no rare weapons over 4 I think and only one max level gear   ) and the Paladin is my best option for playing Gold and I needs them credits.

Anyways I used to forego the shield but I realized not too long ago I'd been a fool. Now I skip incinerate, which I haven't seen mentioned but it could be a common build for all I know;

 

ED 4b 5a 6b

SF 4b 5a 6a

Passive spec'd for power damage and weight bonuses

Fire Shield w/ melee damage

 

Cheese -> Melee -> Energy Drain -> Feel ashamed -> Repeat 

 

 

It used to be the standard build before tech explosions were unlocked. I grew too familiar and fond of the build to ever change so I still use it on a primarily melee build, but arguably the best build now is 63656 or 64646, with a little incinerate to detonate those bugged cryo explosions on non-geth/non-shielded enemies.

 

ETA: To be precise, I think the best build is some combination of 6x6x6, where you split points between incinerate and passives depending on your preference. I personally think a little extra recharge so you can comfortably take a shotgun is worth it on him - ironically the fewer points you put into passive the more you are losing out on combo speed, and I think combo speed is more valuable than combo damage, thus the split points suggestion. But if you like and have access to guns that are light enough, dumping passives entirely isn't a bad idea at all.

 

I still keep 60666 out of habit, because I forget to use incinerate at all really. I think his passives might be set for weapon damage <.<

[Willyums]

 

 

...but arguably the best build now is 63656 or 64646, with a little incinerate to detonate those bugged cryo explosions on non-geth/non-shielded enemies.

 

Yeah good point, I knew cryosplosions are bugged to prime everything but I only ever play against geth at the moment to take advantage of energy-draining everything in sight to stay alive, so I find I have little use for incinerate. Hopefully there'll come a time when I have decent weapons and I don't feel confined to cheesy crutch builds to play Gold/Plat 

[megabeast37215]

I go 3-4 in Energy Drain and 4-5 in passives.. but mainly for the weight so I can spam more powers and use the omniblade without having to rely on the weight glitch (which can't be relied on since I start so many matches with 1-2 players able to join).

[geezer117]

That's how I spec him (66606). Only arc pistol pierce/hcb, no secondary. He has so many ways to do damage it's almost confusing. 

[FuriousFelicia]

I actually made that build focusing solely on combos, let me tell ya, it works like a charm. 

[bondiboy]

I also spec out of passives with the Paladin

[T41rdEye]

46646 was my standard... but I've been doing no passives recently. Both work well.

The only must IMO is the Fire Shield.

[FuriousFelicia]

He's a combo maniac and totally wrecks stuff, passives or no passives. I recommend going for 6/6 combos. Use AP, phasics.

[Excella Gionne]

I put 3 points into Energy Drain 'cause his is broken! 4 out 5 of his powers are broken. He's the most broken class....a no fitness Paladin = Broken bones!

[Alfonsedode]

I am playing like that (fireshield melee paladin no passive), but considering to come back to some passive. I am not efficient enough on plat with him. Or maybe i just need a cyclonic 4 and glacier