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[MisterJB]

A lot of DAO's armor concept looked much better than what we saw in the game, I hope DA:I looks to those designs than the one we see in DAO

There is a mod that puts those armors into the game.

[Wulfram]

@Bob

 

Get some leather armour.  Paint it black.  Cool looking thief armour.  Add a cloak and hood if you must.

Barbarians always look good in chain mail, I reckon.  Add some furs for a classic look.

 

Most of the other character archetypes you mention probably shouldn't be wearing armour.

[AresKeith]

The tendency for several dozen pictures to always be posted in these threads is irritating.

 

More to the point, it seems that people posting these fail to recognize an important point - these are all pictures of 'knights.' Shining heavy armor and all that.

 

Well that's great. But guess what? Not all characters are knights. Some have very different characterizations, and their clothing needs to reflect that.

 

So good for you for finding pictures of armor that are both pretty and practical. How about attempting an archetype that's actually difficult? A seductive character? A cat thief? A notive who would probably look out of place wearing heavy armor? A prostitute? A druid or a priest? A criminal? A barbarian?

 

Making heavy armor look nice is a piece of cake. Find some pictures that work for archetypes that are more difficult, and maybe then you'll have earned the right to say "I think clothing should be good-looking and practical!" (gasp) as if nobody who makes fiction has ever thought of such a thing before.

 

You mean something like this for Rogues:

 

 

And these for Mages:

 

 

[Vilegrim]

The tendency for several dozen pictures to always be posted in these threads is irritating.

 

More to the point, it seems that people posting these fail to recognize an important point - these are all pictures of 'knights.' Shining heavy armor and all that.

 

Well that's great. But guess what? Not all characters are knights. Some have very different characterizations, and their clothing needs to reflect that.

 

So good for you for finding pictures of armor that are both pretty and practical. How about attempting an archetype that's actually difficult? A seductive character? A cat thief? A notive who would probably look out of place wearing heavy armor? A prostitute? A druid or a priest? A criminal? A barbarian?

 

Making heavy armor look nice is a piece of cake. Find some pictures that work for archetypes that are more difficult, and maybe then you'll have earned the right to say "I think clothing should be good-looking and practical!" (gasp) as if nobody who makes fiction has ever thought of such a thing before.

 

Judging by armour in most games...they haven't, practical gets thrown on a fire, and good looking goes with it, far to often.

 

But you wanted lighter armour:

 

 

 

[grumpymooselion]

The problem with answering questions like this is that people tend too much toward their own bias, rather than something more sensible. Myself included.

 

Personally, I feel, everything goes. There is a place and time for everything. Practical and functional armor is good. Impractical and aesthetically over the top armor is good. Conservative armor is good. Skimpy armor is good. Elements that are not extremes, and rather somewhere in between, regardless of which side they tend toward, are good. Purely functional armor is good. Intricate and ornate armor is good. Everything is good. The things you need consider aren't whether these things belong, or whether you should do one or another all the time. To me, it's about what is right for a character, their background, their context and setting. What they're doing, who they are and why they do the things they do.

 

Something can also be pleasing and realistic all at once. Yet, that's not required. It can be ugly or plain and realistic. On the other hand, armor could be pleasing and non-functional or unrealistic and still fit, provided there's a reason for it. Is the character vain beyond being sensible? Does the character simply have power (like a mage) beyond the need for heavy armor, or, (again as a mage) does practical armor simply restrict their movements too much to be sensible for their purposes? Extend this to clothes. People are different. We like different things. We act different ways. We don't always do what is sensible, nor are we all crazy and over the top. We like and try and do and wear different things for a variety of reasons. Sometimes to fit in. Sometimes to act out. Sometimes to show off. Sometimes to represent something.

 

Two promiscuous characters could have very different ideas of clothing. One promiscous character might like conservative dress, only sharing their body with those they chose, but still being very active with many partners. At the same time someone just as promiscous might prefer skimpy wear, and showing off what they have. Still another side to the story is someone that likes showing a lot of skin but who is actually very sexually specific, only sleeping with one partner, or, possibly, not having interest at all. Different levels of conservative/skimpy/practical/functional/ornate/over the top and concepts beyond have their place in clothing.

 

The argument could be made that this matters less where armor is, becaus eof what we know, but the question isn't of what we know. Go throughout history, especially really ancient history, and you find very strage ideas where armor and weapons are concerned that either applied to tactics very specific to their time and place or didn't work very well at all, but were maintained via anything from stubborness to tradition and even to laws that prevent use of certaint actics, weapons or armor. Sometimes for reasons that would seem completely strange to us. Within a given time frame you can have people of drasticlaly different technological levels,a nd thus weapons and armor (and training) very different from one another. You can see this even today, where it's all too easy to think everyone is on the same technological level as, say, the U.S., Canada or any number of areas that we're so used to that it's easy to forget some people live very differently even today.

 

So, practical armor makes sense . . . to us. Even to certain people within the setting of DA:I certain types of armor make sense, but, people don't always do things that would make sense in retrospect. We make mistakes. We don't know everything right off. We learn. We evolve. We advance. We don't start with all the pieces. So armor that isn't the most practical, in a fictional setting, sometimes makes more sense that the perfect storm of weapon and armor designs, even when you're going for a realistic setting. When you're talking DA:I, which is very much fantasy, with magic and more being common enough to requires laws dictate its use, you get into the realm of High Fantasy where being totally realistic simply doesn't make sense. This doesn't mean the other extreme of, "everything is over the top" necessarily, but it does mean that fully realistic and practical armor, weapons and clothing aren't necessarily 'always' the best choice. I mean, again, look at what reality actual provides, where actual people didn't manage to be practical, even when their situation required it, and not necessarily because they put style over practicality. It could be something as simple as a mistake or misinformation that lead to a faulty or flawed or simply 'not the best/perfect' design even if it was on the right track.

 

Of course, we can also just be vain or too creative for our own good at times, so too would thinking, feeling and imperfect living beings from a fictional setting.

 

In short, what is practical and makes the most sense . . . isn't always what people do, even realistically. You have all of Human history and culture to prove that outright.

[Jawzzus]

Add a cloak and hood if you must.

 

 

 

You must ^ That was suppose to be quoted..I don't know what happened

[BioWareM0d13]

 

So good for you for finding pictures of armor that are both pretty and practical. How about attempting an archetype that's actually difficult? A seductive character? A cat thief? A notive who would probably look out of place wearing heavy armor? A prostitute? A druid or a priest? A criminal? A barbarian?

 

Making heavy armor look nice is a piece of cake. Find some pictures that work for archetypes that are more difficult, and maybe then you'll have earned the right to say "I think clothing should be good-looking and practical!" (gasp) as if nobody who makes fiction has ever thought of such a thing before.

 

Why would either a cat burglar or a prostitute be wearing armor?

[Abelas Forever!]

I like armor that looks good more than realistic one. I also like to change it once in a while so I don't get bored. That's why it would be nice that you could modify different armors such as the coverage, color etc. So when you get the armor with good stats that don't look good you could modify it.

[NoForgiveness]

I actually like the direction that da seems to be going. Its not bikini chain mail but still looks good for the most part and it still looks fairly functional to me(not that I am nitpicky about it).

[TKavatar]

You mean something like this for Rogues:
 

 

That's gorgeous

I miss the old days of DAO when Bioware didn't include SPIKES in every single piece of armour. What was wrong with DAO's armour design? They could have streamlined it without having to making it pointy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'd like to have Cassandra's DotS armor model since we are posting wants. It fit in both groups I think.

 

 

[Fishy]

If you're a lumberjack .. Would you go to work in a damp wood like this

 

 

Or like this

 

 

 

Sometime ... Please. Just make sense.

[Wulfram]

What was wrong with DAO's armour design?

 

Gigantic pauldrons.  And female leather armours

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If you're a lumberjack .. Would you go to work in a damp wood like this

 

*snip*

 

Or like this

 

*snip*

 

 

Sometime ... Please. Just make sense.

That's hardly a good comparison. The Brawny guy would be a better one. 

[TKavatar]

Gigantic pauldrons.  And female leather armours

The female leather armours were ridiculous, I'll give you that. But the gigantic pauldrons could be slimmed down and streamlined instead of replacing them with gigantic spikes.

I mean, look at this : http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Dissension

This is both hideous and non practical.

[Enigmatick]

The female leather armours were ridiculous, I'll give you that. But the gigantic pauldrons could be slimmed down and streamlined instead of replacing them with gigantic spikes.

I mean, look at this : http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Dissension

This is both hideous and non practical.

Maybe she'll just ram her enemies with her chest.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The female leather armours were ridiculous, I'll give you that. But the gigantic pauldrons could be slimmed down and streamlined instead of replacing them with gigantic spikes.

I mean, look at this : http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Dissension

This is both hideous and non practical.

Fits the Darkspawn perfectly then.

[NoForgiveness]

The female leather armours were ridiculous,

 

Oh ya they were soooo ridiculous. Its just way beyond belief how ridiculous they were..

 

 

 

side note: that was sarcasm in case you couldn't tell....

[JakeLeTDK]

You mean something like this for Rogues:

 

*Snip

 

I'm literally drooling...... Damn that's just awesome....

 

Talking about ridiculous female armor, check out a game call Scarlet Blade. Ugliest, most ridiculous, and one of the most sexist female armor design I've ever seen

[TKavatar]

Maybe she'll just ram her enemies with her chest.

Or impale an LI while kissing and having sexy times.

[Chibi Elemental]

bioware "needs moar spikes!!!!!"

[Mihura]

I think Matt Rhodes is doing a good job and so did DA 2 team with the armors. I for one think is really shitty to do armors base on gender because "women are hot". Unless you do the same to all, I prefer practical ones with no boob plate or heels. 

[katling73]

Realistic armour because only realistic armour is pleasing to my eye. Unrealistic armour looks ugly and ridiculous and all I end up doing is sitting in front of the computer, pointing out all the ways it's going to get my character injured, maimed or killed.

 

Brienne of Tarth's armour in the TV show is an awesome example of armour done well. Seriously, the costume designers deserve a lot of kudos for the work they've done there. And Mulan's armour in OUaT is also excellent. And both sets of armour are gorgeous.

 

Of course, as always, YMMV.

 

But remember, one should never have to question one's choice of armour!

 

[Mihura]

Realistic armour because only realistic armour is pleasing to my eye. Unrealistic armour looks ugly and ridiculous and all I end up doing is sitting in front of the computer, pointing out all the ways it's going to get my character injured, maimed or killed.

 

Brienne of Tarth's armour in the TV show is an awesome example of armour done well. Seriously, the costume designers deserve a lot of kudos for the work they've done there. And Mulan's armour in OUaT is also excellent. And both sets of armour are gorgeous.

 

Of course, as always, YMMV.

 

But remember, one should never have to question one's choice of armour!

 

 

I love her armor in that show and it is a show in more cleavage than Isabela altogether lmao

 

Also the shieldmaiden class from war of the vikings it is a nice one.