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[mupp3tz]

Boobage aside, I actually really liked Sile's design. Philippa, on the other hand, just made me lol.  

 

Ves wasn't so bad:

... although I'd have given her an actual shirt.

[AresKeith]

...Sigh...

 

In case you've forgotten, it's not just the player that wears clothing, is it? It's all the companions. Players don't just whine about a lack of supposed 'realism' for the players clothing, they whine about it for all companions. Companions cannot be simply classified as 'Warrior, rogue, or mage.' Therefore, if you're going to make proclimations that clothing can be both 'realistic' and illustrative of the person's character, you need to be able to do it for a wide variety of archetypes, not just warriors, rogues, and mages.

 

I listed a bunch of archetypes this could apply to.

 

A seductress. A cat thief. A novice. A prostitute. A druid or a priest. A criminal. A barbarian.

 

Why don't you go hunt down some pictures of armor or clothing that is both, as you say, 'realistic,' and yet illustrative of the character. That is, a layperson should be able to look at them and more or less think "That's a cat thief" or "That's a priest." Or at least be in the ballpark.

 

Do that, and maybe then you can pat yourself on the back and pretend to yourself you're the first one to ever realize that it might be nice for clothing to be both pretty and 'realistic.'

 

You do know that the companions basically are classified as just Warriors, Rogues, and Mages other than their specializations which doesn't interfere with their clothing in Dragon Age

 

So instead of trying to talk down to someone, actual play the game first 

[Bob from Accounting]

It does not matter worth half a damn what these companions are 'classified' as. Their 'classification' is not their character. A thief and a priest might both be rogues. Does that mean they should dress the same way because they share a character class? No, it does not. A priest should look like a priest and a thief should look like a thief.

[AresKeith]

It does not matter worth half a damn what these companions are 'classified' as. Their 'classification' is not their character. A thief and a priest might both be rogues. Does that mean they should dress the same way because they share a character class? No, it does not. A priest should look like a priest and a thief should look like a thief.

 

A thief would look like rogue and a priest would look like a mage

 

Their appearance would match what their class is

[Bob from Accounting]

Oh my God...

 

I don't know if you've realized this, but there are more than three character designs in Dragon Age. More than three. Do you understand that? In Inquisition, all the warriors, all the mages, and all the rogues do not look like each other. They don't wear the same style of clothing. Because there's more than three. There's more than three designs.

 

Each companion has their own unique design. Their own unique style of clothing. There's ten and them, and ten is more than three. All the warriors do not look the same because they're warriors. They look different. They all look different. And so there's more than three. More than three.

 

There aren't three styles of clothing because there's three classes. There's more than three. Anders is a mage. Morrigan is a mage. But they wear very different styles of clothing. This is because there aren't three styles of clothing because there's three classes. There's more than three. There's more than three companions, and so there's more than three styles of clothing.

 

There's more than three.

[themikefest]

Take a chill pill Bob from Accounting

[mupp3tz]

I don't get it.. posting images that make your brain go *ding, ding, ding* most likely Warrior class does not = I WANT THIS ON EVERYTHING EVER.  It just means that it's a design they find appealing and would like to see more of.  It just might be "Hey, this is cool." and not some deep statement on archetypes and quality of taste or trying to appease some arbitrary standards.

[AresKeith]

Oh my God...

 

I don't know if you've realized this, but there are more than three character designs in Dragon Age. More than three. Do you understand that? In Inquisition, all the warriors, all the mages, and all the rogues do not look like each other. They don't wear the same style of clothing. Because there's more than three. There's more than three designs.

 

Each companion has their own unique design. Their own unique style of clothing. There's ten and them, and ten is more than three. All the warriors do not look the same because they're warriors. They look different. They all look different. And so there's more than three. More than three.

 

There aren't three styles of clothing because there's three classes. There's more than three. Anders is a mage. Morrigan is a mage. But they wear very different styles of clothing. This is because there aren't three styles of clothing because there's three classes. There's more than three. There's more than three companions, and so there's more than three styles of clothing.

 

There's more than three.

 

Chill

 

Where did I say they all look the same? All I said is that their appearance matches what their class is, which we can also customize and from Inquisition it looks that we can put some form of armor on them also

[Han Shot First]

I don't get it.. posting images that make your brain go *ding, ding, ding* most likely Warrior class does not = I WANT THIS ON EVERYTHING EVER.  It just means that it's a design they find appealing and would like to see more of.  It just might be "Hey, this is cool." and not some deep statement on archetypes or taste level.

 

Exactly.

 

People posting pictures of heavy plate armor aren't saying they'd like to see similar designs for every possible character in the game. They are just referring to warriors or other plate wearing characters like the arcane warrior. 

 

That being said I wouldn't mind some mage and rogue designs that include some light chain or scale armor. I don't think rogues necessarily have to be limited to leather and cloth gambesons, or that a mage has to be in an unprotected robe.

[KaiserShep]

The mantle of the Champion is easily my favorite example of mage-specific armor.

[AresKeith]

The mantle of the Champion is easily my favorite example of mage-specific armor.

 

Yep, that's one of the best example of Mage armor (minus the spikes lol)

[Bob from Accounting]

The salient issue is that people in this thread seem convinced that by finding heavy armor which looks nice and is supposedly 'realistic,' they've conclusively proved that all clothing, period, can look nice, illustrate the character, and be 'realistic.' And that if developers haven't done it yet, it must be because they're just never, ever considered the idea that it might be cool to have clothing which looks good and is 'realistic.' Those silly stupid developers!

[Mistic]

The salient issue is many people in this thread seem convinced that by finding heavy armor which looks nice and is supposedly 'realistic,' they've conclusively proved that all clothing, period, can look nice, illustrate the character, and be 'realistic.' And that if developers haven't done it yet, it must be because they're just never, ever considered the idea that it might be cool to have clothing which looks good and is 'realistic.' Those silly stupid developers!

 

Although I agree up to a point, isn't it too much to complain about people posting pictures of armors in a thread that is specifically about armors? The title and the first post don't talk about clothing in general, just armors.

[mupp3tz]

Or, you know, maybe that's just how you're choosing to interpret it.

[Han Shot First]

Yep, that's one of the best example of Mage armor (minus the spikes lol)

 

Bethany's Grey Warden mage armor would probably my favorite. Besides looking cool I love that it looks like someone combined scale armor and a gambeson into a mage robe. The Grey Warden mage uniform looks like it might actually provide some protection from sharp and pointy things. 

 

 

[themikefest]

The mantle of the Champion is easily my favorite example of mage-specific armor.

I like it as well.

 

I would also like to have the armor Flemeth wore in DA2.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Bethany's Grey Warden mage armor would probably my favorite. 

 

Yeah, I loved the Mage Warden armor.

[KaiserShep]

I forgot about the Warden getup. DA2 definitely improved the Grey Warden aesthetic. I always equip my mage Hawke with that in the end (plus it has better stats if you get it during Act 3.

[Zerc]

Think of the headwear in the DA universe, that'll answer your question.

[AresKeith]

Bethany's Grey Warden mage armor would probably my favorite. Besides looking cool I love that it looks like someone combined scale armor and a gambeson into a mage robe. The Grey Warden mage uniform looks like it might actually provide some protection from sharp and pointy things. 

 

 

 

Yea, I liked the Grey Warden mage armor too (second favorite)

 

I hope DA:I provides more mage armor as good as those two

[BigEvil]

Every time I see it I'm glad that there's a mod for DA:O to put the DA2 Warden armours in there. Love them.

 

My thoughts on armour is generally a happy medium between realistic and visually appealing/interesting. Although I also think that the setting plays a part as well. Big bulky unrealistic armour with massive pauldrons and lots of spikes everywhere that would take your own eye out if you moved the wrong way works for settings like Warhammer and 40k, but would look silly in a setting like a Song of Ice and Fire.

[Bfler]

Big bulky unrealistic armour with massive pauldrons and lots of spikes everywhere that would take your own eye out if you moved the wrong way works for settings like Warhammer and 40k, but would look silly in a setting like a Song of Ice and Fire.

 

And DA with it's Darkspawn-Orcs, Elves, demons and all the other zombie-scum is more like Warhammer than SoIaF.

[KaiserShep]

The armor Jaime Lannister has made for Brienne is pretty awesome.

[Han Shot First]

The armor Jaime Lannister has made for Brienne is pretty awesome.

 

A lot of the armor designs in the Game of Thrones television series are great. I'd add the Kingsguard, the Lannisters, the Hound, Ser Jorah Mormont, Ser Vardis Egan, and Loras Tyrell to the list of characters from that series that have awesome armor designs.