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[SporkFu]

The reapers wouldn't really have a purpose without the catalyst. They'd be like Wall-E. 

[Farangbaa]

The reapers wouldn't really have a purpose without the catalyst. They'd be like Wall-E. 

 

Man, Wall-E. It doesn't even speak, yet it put tears in my eyes. 

 

What a movie. It's wasted on children. Sure, they think it's all great and very funny, but it's wasted on them.

[Hadeedak]

Good animation works for everyone. Like any sort of good mo... I'm lying through my teeth. Most of my favorite movies have more cursing or blood than I'd want kids to see. >> OH WELL.

 

 

Anyway, what I'm saying is that Harbinger repeating "Har-binnnnnnnnnger" for everything and making tiny cute movements would make my day.

[Farangbaa]

Anyway, what I'm saying is that Harbinger repeating "Har-binnnnnnnnnger" for everything and making tiny cute movements would make my day.

 

I have a feeling Harby doesn't like to get back in his pokeball though.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

But there might be disagreements among the individual reapers without control. Harbinger, the first one, would be insisting he was now the leader. Some would line up and follow. Others might not. That is if they were truly sentient to begin with. 

[themikefest]

Another way to destroy the Citadel is to fly it into the sun. I remember Barla Von in ME1 saying it had engines. The hard part is finding where the controls for them are.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Another way to destroy the Citadel is to fly it into the sun. I remember Barla Von in ME1 saying it had engines. The hard part is finding where the controls for them are.

 

Barla Von said it had engines? I remember hearing the Wards had generators and such, but not engines.

[themikefest]

Barla Von said it had engines? I remember hearing the Wards had generators and such, but not engines.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=E0P2mWkGrJQ go to 1:05

[von uber]

Another way to destroy the Citadel is to fly it into the sun. I remember Barla Von in ME1 saying it had engines. The hard part is finding where the controls for them are.

 

Yeah, this would be my thoughts too.

[Deathsaurer]

But there might be disagreements among the individual reapers without control. Harbinger, the first one, would be insisting he was now the leader. Some would line up and follow. Others might not. That is if they were truly sentient to begin with. 

Would any such disagreement arise until after this cycle was finished? Every Reaper that bothers vocalizing anything insists the cycle cannot be broken. What would worry me is what if they come up with a more... extreme plan. The Catalyst for all its craziness was at least trying to preserve civilizations. I'm not sure Harbinger or any other Reaper would hold this idea in high regard.

[Excella Gionne]

The reapers wouldn't really have a purpose without the catalyst. They'd be like Wall-E. 

Wall-E was basically mocking human nature....

[voteDC]

Perhaps the Reapers are 'indoctrinated' by the Catalyst. We know you can be indoctrinated and still retain autonomy to an extent. So that could be why the Shepard-lyst is able to control the Reapers in that ending, it is exerting more powerful indoctrination against the Reapers.

As to destroying the Citadel. Would this release the Reapers from the Catalyst's indoctrination? Would they, without the Catalyst's influence, choose to keep on doing what they were doing? Would the older, and likely more indoctrinated, Reapers end up in a 'civil' war with the younger generation who could possibly more easily throw off the Catalyst's influence (due to spending less time under it).

The OPs post certainly sparks off a few ideas.

[Massa FX]

I think just finding and destroying the AI's blue box is enough. The entire Citadel need not be destroyed.

 

Destroying the Crucible? LOL! I soooo want to do that without running into an explosion.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Perhaps the Reapers are 'indoctrinated' by the Catalyst. We know you can be indoctrinated and still retain autonomy to an extent. So that could be why the Shepard-lyst is able to control the Reapers in that ending, it is exerting more powerful indoctrination against the Reapers.

As to destroying the Citadel. Would this release the Reapers from the Catalyst's indoctrination? Would they, without the Catalyst's influence, choose to keep on doing what they were doing? Would the older, and likely more indoctrinated, Reapers end up in a 'civil' war with the younger generation who could possibly more easily throw off the Catalyst's influence (due to spending less time under it).

The OPs post certainly sparks off a few ideas.

 

The problem I see with the Reapers being Indoctrinated is that the process is always stated to be designed to influence organics and the Reapers are some sort of organic slushy/synthetic hybrid; also, Indoctrination ultimately ends up destroying it's victims which seems at odds with the Reapers which are designed to last forever.

 

I also don't see why the Catalyst would design the Reapers to have free will if it just then had to go around and supplant it. Even if the creation process of turning organics into smoothies some how created a sentient mind it doesn't have to be given control of the Reaper shell. It just seems like it would be an extremely inefficient process when the Catalyst is machine. Then again the whole Reaper idea is inefficient in the first place.