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[cronshaw]

I'd bring back assassination

make that the signature power for infiltrators

Completely remove TC as a power and give all infiltrators the volus light melee

[FuriousFelicia]

Reduce the damage boost, maybe just leave only the sniper 25%. Replace 4b with some utility stuff (speed, shield regen idk), 5a with some more utility, maybe upon entering cloak - leaves a short decoy in the position you just cloaked or something..

[capn233]

I feel like I traveled back in time to the spring of 2012.

 

Less general purpose damage, get rid of the sliding cooldown mechanic when a power or weapon is used.  Drop Duration evolutions altogether.  Apply only to shot or power, whichever breaks cloak first.

 

While we are at it, I would balance Annihilation Field by deleting it.

[K_O_513]

Ummm, wat?

Cloak works exactly as it is intended, on or off-host.

Double cloaking (cloaking again right after you break cloak), essentially giving you two cooldowns, doesn't happen on-host as far as I know.

[cronshaw]

Double cloaking (cloaking again right after you break cloak), essentially giving you two cooldowns, doesn't happen on-host as far as I know.

 

Perhaps this is a PS3 only problem. I knew what you were talking about immediately

[FuriousFelicia]

*snip*
 
While we are at it, I would balance Annihilation Field by deleting it.

Oh no you didn't!

[K_O_513]

Perhaps this is a PS3 only problem. I knew what you were talking about immediately

I wouldn't be surprised. PS3 is the twilight zone of ME3 Multiplayer

[FuriousFelicia]

There was question posed from BW side - which power would we use if there were no CD?

Well, and I need you to bear with me on this for a moment, what if TC had no CD unless you broke it with a shot or power?
Disengaging it by simply pressing it again while cloaked would have no CD, but if you fire under cloak, you would get a CD based on some time thresholds...like if you were cloaked for over 3 secs or less than 5, you'd get say...3 sec CD and if you go over five but stay below 10 it would be 4 or 5 sec. The longest possible would be like 10 secs, which would come upon firing or power use after 10 secs or longer spent cloaked.

Of course in that case the damage boost would have to go, maybe leaving only last evo option 50%.

The power ranks could be something along the lines of: 4 - speed/shield recharge, 5 - melee/weapon damage, 6 - bonus power/accuracy&stability (CD of power would apply and accuracy&stability would be effective for the same time as the current cloak's CD.

Do spit on me please, it gets the buzz going

[FuriousFelicia]

Double cloaking (cloaking again right after you break cloak), essentially giving you two cooldowns, doesn't happen on-host as far as I know.

Not that I know of, and it only happens when you get moderate lag, and if you're fast fingered.

[Chealec]

Ummm, wat?

 

Cloak works exactly as it is intended, on or off-host.

 

Sometimes you hit the full TC CD even when you've literally just cloaked and shot off-host ... doesn't seem to happen on.

[BridgeBurner]

Sometimes you hit the full TC CD even when you've literally just cloaked and shot off-host ... doesn't seem to happen on.

 

Never experienced this ever.

[Chealec]

Never experienced this ever.

 

Probably lag screwing over some timer or other... happens almost every game for me if I'm lagging a bit; especially in games where I can't take hard cover (just bounce off the wall), enemies teleport up ladders and guns that only reload about 2 shots (most notably Hurricane, Striker and Piranha) when the ammo counter gets confused and you reload, fire a couple of shots, then have to reload again as you're out of ammo.

 

I get all the best glitches :|

[FuriousFelicia]

@Chealec
It's probably lag in combination with fast fingers. I have it too sometimes, usually when the lag is moderate. But the way I figure, because of lag, when you do fast TC-power-shot where the power is pressed very shortly after TC, you get both CDs. Because you actually 're-appear' for a moment after power use, but 'disappear' before the shot.
It's like instead 1,3, shoot you make a mistake and press 3, 1.

In case when that happens try waiting a little before doing anything after cloaking.

[Mako]

While we are at it, I would balance Annihilation Field by deleting it.

*gasp* Nooo

[FuriousFelicia]

*gasp* Nooo

Actually I am suppressed BW didn't do it, but I'm glad they didn't. Though it could be called OP, but really it's susceptible to BS like any other power in this game so there's the balance.

[RustyBuckets02]

Never experienced this ever.

As far as I know, it happens sometimes on xbox, all the time on ps3 and doesn't happen at all on PC.

[capn233]

Probably lag screwing over some timer or other...

 

If someone has never gotten that glitch, they probably aren't playing infiltrator off host.  It happens on PC.

 

I agree it is probably some sort of desync between client and host.  Not sure.  It almost always happens if you cloak and then immediately use a power.  Screwing around for a second or so after you start cloak seems to make it less likely to do this.

 

Never happens if you host, and is very unlikely to happen if you have a good connection to the host.

[FuriousFelicia]

And I like 5 shot BW, one thing good about lag

[crashsuit]

I've had double-cloak, and non-breaking cloak, playing on laggy PC hosts. Edit: Also, 7- and 8-shot Piranha clips.

[Excella Gionne]

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I've had double-cloak, and non-breaking cloak, playing on laggy PC hosts.Edit: Also, 7- and 8-shot Piranha clips.[/quote]

I'm not entirely sure if you actually still have the cloak damage when you get the lag cloak that gives you a stupid cooldown. But your shields still restore when it happens.

[BullWinkl3]

I would change rank6B,  instead of giving 25% sniper rifle damage,   I would change it so that the 25% extra damage applied to any weapon you used - not just sniper rifles.  

[T41rdEye]

Bring back Assassination. Have Cloak work independently with no damage boost. Think Volus light melee.

[Grim68]

...
The same goes for running past Phantoms (while being in cloak ofc) and getting synced...

In their defense, if I heard breathing, footsteps, felt a breeze rushing past me and saw a ghostly shimmer...I would stab the sh*t out of that too!


OT - make the cooldown inversely proportional to time spent in cloak (opposite of what it is now).
-Fix the triggering of "weapon fired" to break cloak to prevent someone from beginning to fire their Spitfire before cloaking.
-Give a bonus to support activities like picking someone up or taking care of a device, etc.
-Keep the damage bonuses if you want, or change them to what me0 suggested - seems interesting.

Just make it more of a tactical ability instead of an I-win button.

[ImDedicatedToMyApologies]

TC is "overpowered" because its stronger and more versatile than all other powers. To balance it is easy: simply decrease all other powers' cd by 50%. 

[Bodkins Odds]

Since everyone else seems to be covering the direct changes to the Cloak power, here are my suggestions that would even some of the other classes out with Infiltrators in regards to ability to use heavy weapons.

 

Make cooldowns unmodified by weight like in ME2.

Make weight a hard limit  i.e. if you don't have enough capacity then you can't equip the gun at all (you can try to equip it, but unless you slap an UM on it you won't be able to leave the loadout screen with it equiped).

 

This would also make the recharge reduction evolutions more useful since they no longer have to deal with the DR caused by low weight reducing the cooldowns.