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[Sir DeLoria]

As terrible as Genophage and Morning War must've been, there is one catastrophe that is barely ever mentioned, the near extinction of the Drell. I find this pretty strange considering the fact that it probably was one of the deadliest catastrophes in recent history. The codex mentions that Rakhana had a population of 11 billion and that aside from the 375.000 Drell rescued by the Hanar, the vast majority of the planets population perished in famines(due to the constant droughts) and wars. This means that the Drell exodus left behind around six times as many dead as the Morning War.

Now the question is why is this event so largely ignored and glossed over? Not even Thane talks much about it.

[SporkFu]

It's because nobody cares about the Drell* 

 

 

 

* Disclaimer: This statement reflects the opinion of the poster only, and is not meant to reflect the opinion of others on the BSN. 

[Excella Gionne]

It's a very passable thought....even I forget about it. It's not mentioned enough to worry others....I have no idea why BioWare didn't make an issue out of it, but it's worth mentioning.

[Farangbaa]

Because the extinction of the Drell is just a horrible run of events in which nobody's to blame.

 

The Genophage and Morning War.. well, look at the threads on here that go for tens of pages.

[Excella Gionne]

Well, it may have had more of an impact if BioWare kept the original script alternative to the Citadel Coup!

[Kurt M.]

Maybe because it's what will probably happen here on RL Earth in the next few years. Most surely without the nice "aliens rescuing us all" part.

[Farangbaa]

Maybe because it's what will probably happen here on RL Earth in the next few years. Most surely without the nice "aliens rescuing us all" part.

 

Won't happen for a while though. There's plenty of food in the world at the moment, for everybody. It's just not at the right place.

[Kurt M.]

Won't happen for a while though. There's plenty of food in the world at the moment, for everybody. It's just not at the right place.

 

Last I heard (a while ago), paranoid governments were already taking some measures to secure potable water sources. So maybe it's closer than you think..

[Ryriena]

Maybe because it's what will probably happen here on RL Earth in the next few years. Most surely without the nice "aliens rescuing us all" part.

It would take a few hundred years to for that too happen. However, it will happen mostly due to over population and climate change. If what they say is correct we could see a 1% to 3% rise in water level over the next three hundred years which will change the landscape pretty well if we don't do something to prevent it.

Is a science nerd......

[Farangbaa]

Last I heard (a while ago), paranoid governments were already taking some measures to secure potable water sources. So maybe it's closer than you think..

 

Water's a bigger problem than food, this is true.

[Kurt M.]

It would take a few hundred years to for that too happen. However, it will happen mostly due to over population and climate change. If what they say is correct we could see a 1% to 3% rise in water level over the next three hundred years which will change the landscape pretty well if we don't do something to prevent it.

 

You've seen "Waterworld" too many times...lol.

 

Yea, some zones like Florida or Holland will certainly have a hard time, but it's not like we'll see a catastrophical decrease of terrain if the Poles go all watery.

[Excella Gionne]

Water's a bigger problem than food, this is true.

*Pours bottles of water onto the grass* You don't see Drells doing this!

[Ryriena]

You've seen "Waterworld" too many times...lol.
 
Yea, some zones like Florida or Holland will certainly have a hard time, but it's not like we'll see a catastrophical decrease of terrain if the Poles go all watery.

I know that lol but it still would lessen area for food growth just saying...

[Kurt M.]

*Pours bottles of water onto the grass* You don't see Drells doing this!

 

Actually, that's even ecologic. I prefer to pour it onto a frying pan's used oil, then down the sewers.

 

...that is a joke

[Farangbaa]

You've seen "Waterworld" too many times...lol.

 

Yea, some zones like Florida or Holland will certainly have a hard time, but it's not like we'll see a catastrophical decrease of terrain if the Poles go all watery.

 

We will not have a hard time. We have mastered the sea.

 

 

In all seriousness though, I live below sea level already.

[Excella Gionne]

Actually, that's even ecologic. I prefer to pour it onto a frying pan's used oil, then down the sewers.

 

...that is a joke

I thought Drells were Fishies until Thane said they can drown........ :'(

[shodiswe]

It was more like a natural dissaster. What more is there to say? I guess you could blame them of overpopulating like the Krogans or Humans. It's kind of a cautinary tale. Cues => Salarains/Krogans.

It's also one of those, what if humanity hadn't found mass effect technology, kind of discussion pieces.

Humanity did experiment with non Eezo FTL technology and theories but they werm't that sucessful. Also, once the Protean tech cashe and Eezo storage on Mars was found, aswell as the Relay the old FTL research became reduntant and unnessesary. Since you already had viable tech recovered from the proteans.

What's interesting is, would humanity have managed to develop an alternative FTL drive? Without Eezo? It's the only species noted to have attempted it.


Basicly, The Drell were an industrial level species that never found Eezo or Protean or any kind of Reaper tech to enable them for spaceflight.
This also indicates that while some species might have been able to become FTL spacefaring species on their own other would have died out or remained bound on their homeworld.

Most species described also seems to have advanced at a snailpace technologicaly while humanitys advancement even before the discovery of the Mars archives was represented by an explosive technological advancement, including areas such as medicine and genetic engineering in centuries, while others development, even with the aid of protean relics/reaper tech took millenia.
But would it have been enough without Protean tech and Reaper tech to avoid the Drells fate? Also, the lack of Eezo, which forced humanity to experiment with non-Eezo based FTL tech.

[Kurt M.]

We will not have a hard time. We have mastered the sea.

 

 

In all seriousness though, I live below sea level already.

 

Then I hope you don't intend to give your house to your children's children. Unless it comes with a set of guills

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Won't happen for a while though. There's plenty of food in the world at the moment, for everybody. It's just not at the right place.

 

It is for me!

[Excella Gionne]

It is for me!

You selfish bastard..........you're alright......

[MassivelyEffective0730]

You selfish bastard..........you're alright......

 

Some of the fringe benefits of living in the world's breadbasket and cornfield. And one of the largest producers of dairy and meat products. And, I live right on Lake Michigan, so water's not a problem. I have a plan to leave Chicago eventually (hopefully before my 26th Birthday in two years.) I've been here too long for my standards (2 and half years) and someone of my age. When I was growing up, I traveled all the time due to my parent's jobs, and now my own career (especially since I'm trying to transfer into the U.S. Navy) has me able to transfer to a variety of locations; problem is, most of them are stateside since I'm not with enough years of experience to pick my duty stations. I'm looking at that Australian ADF exchange. England is also on my radar. Or Japan. Maybe even Brazil. And I'm increasingly thinking about emigrating once my service is up. Granted, someone with my knowledge and experience thus far (let alone what it will be in 5 and half years) will probably not be let out of the United States; in which case, I'm going back out west. To the other great breadbasket and cornfield of America: California, the land of my birth!

[shodiswe]

It is for me!

As someone who hasn't been affected by environmental problem I can say the same. No hurricanes or massive floods or anything nasty. Just a perfect temperate climate with just the right amount of rain to make irrigation pretty much unnessesary. No worrying about rivers drying out, flooding and washing away cities, groundwaterlevel changes or anything else. No water rantioning or shortages.

But who knows, maybe that will change eventualy.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

I think its because,

 

1) introduced in me2

 

The Drell were pre spaceflight? Can't remember that one.

 

It had little lasting impact for everyone else other than the Hanar having to house a select few of them. The Geths existence was a problem for everyone else just by them being there. The Krogan did not Genophage themselves (not interested if they deserved it or not).

 

The disaster was entirely of their own making, no one else to blame so its more of a tragedy rather than a controversy.

[shodiswe]

California huh? I hear they have been painting their grass green these past few years..

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Today in California, a different kind of resource shock is unfolding, and it too may end up, a generation hence, defining an era. This time the resource is water, not oil. Today’s California drought is starting to force similarly life-changing choices, this time in the nation’s most populous state, long a bellwether and, according to some counts, the world’s eighth largest economy. The land of milk and honey has begun in recent weeks to get serious about its water crisis: Farmers are ripping out crops, religious believers are praying for rain, and local governments are ordering restaurants to stop serving glasses of water except to diners who specifically request them. This comes at a time when America’s domestic supply of the natural resource it has cared most about—fossil fuel—is more plentiful than ever.

What remains to be seen is whether California’s water shortage will produce lasting change: whether it will induce Californians to get much more efficient in the way they consume a commodity that, every bit as much as oil, powers the state’s economy. California has wrestled with water pressure for decades. Everyone in the state—including homeowners, farmers, and environmentalists—has failed to make the tough choices that now stare them in the face.

The scary statistics of California’s drought read like a latter-day version of the 1930s Dust Bowl crisis. Last year was the state’s driest since the start of record-keeping in 1895, and this year is likely to be even drier. The state’s snowpack, the source of roughly one-third of the water used by California cities and farms, is hovering at only about 20 percent of its normal water content. The amount of water in certain crucial reservoirs is lower now than it was in 1977, which was one of the two prior driest years on record. About a month ago, the state announced that 17 rural communities were within 100 days of running out of drinking water, given current patterns of water supply and demand. California Governor Jerry Brown, who’s running for reelection, warned in February that the state is facing a “mega-drought.” Some water experts predict California’s dry spell will last for decades; others say it’s too early to tell.

How did California get here? This winter’s infamous “polar vortex,” which has blocked storm fronts from reaching California, hasn’t helped. But the state was facing dry conditions long before this winter. Whether climate change is at play is a question on which scientists disagree: Some say yes, citing in particular the thinning snowpack, and some say no, citing climate models that predict global warming will make California wetter, not drier. Regardless, the current drought merely tipped into crisis a state whose water woes have been worsening for decades. California would be better prepared to withstand its current lack of rain had various constituencies conceded to tougher water-saving measures over the years. Which constituency is most culpable is subjective. Your answer depends largely on your politics.

Farmers have contributed to the shortage because many of them continue to irrigate their land with water-wasting open trenches. Homeowners have contributed to the shortage because many of their houses lack water meters—rudimentary devices necessary to track water consumption as a precondition for reducing it. Environmentalists have contributed to the shortage because they have opposed the construction of new water-storing reservoirs and have persuaded state regulators to hold back more water to protect fish such as the Delta smelt. You may find one or all of these positions entirely reasonable. But all of them have added to California’s present predicament.


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As it turns down the tap, California also is exhorting its residents to change their wet ways. In January, Gov. Brown called on Californians to curb their water use by 20 percent. Last weekend, he signed emergency drought legislation. Among other things, it promotes the use of “recycled,” or used, water—something that makes many people cringe. It also boosts fines for those caught stealing water—an attempt to tame the Wild West in a parched age.

[ImaginaryMatter]

My cynical theory is that the Drell were only made so that Thane could be an alien.