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[ImaginaryMatter]

Well, there were references to lots more races in Citadel space than the major ones we actually met in ME1. Game development being what it is, I wasn't surprised that Bio didn't work up a bunch of models for them, so I figured the drell were there as a sort of token of this.

 

My only problem with the Drell in this regard was that the Hanar were the ones to uplift them, you think such an important event would have been mentioned in their Codex entry, especially sense they seemed to have put them to important work for them. I think it would have made more sense if someone like the Turians did it, sense it was mentioned that they had several client races working for them.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

My only problem with the Drell in this regard was that the Hanar were the ones to uplift them, you think such an important event would have been mentioned in their Codex entry, especially sense they seemed to have put them to important work for them. I think it would have made more sense if someone like the Turians did it, sense it was mentioned that they had several client races working for them.

 

Things change, and the Codex can't be exhaustive. Why Can't I have a complete fictional history of Earth from 2007 to 2183 ? The Batarian entry in mass effect 1 had a very different design for them before being patched when bring down the sky was released.

 

Ok, it would be nice to know about every species that Shepard might encounter, but, you've got to allow some room to invent new stuff, as long as it does not contradict the old stuff.

 

The Turians needed shrewd financiers and bankers so they went and assimilated the Volus.

 

The Hannar had a need for bi-pedal creatures that could do things they struggled to do, so they saved some Drell.

 

Personally I liked the decision to keep the species count fairly low, as apposed to the star wars approach of cantinas full of funny creatures. One or two extra ones are not a problem though.

[mybudgee]

Mostly because the Drell lack huge blue ******

[wolfhowwl]

My only problem with the Drell in this regard was that the Hanar were the ones to uplift them, you think such an important event would have been mentioned in their Codex entry, especially sense they seemed to have put them to important work for them. I think it would have made more sense if someone like the Turians did it, sense it was mentioned that they had several client races working for them.

 

A Turian client race would have been better. Personally I would have preferred that the Drell had been a Terminus species.

[mybudgee]

Holy censorship batman! I meant breasts

[justafan]

Do we even know if Rhakana is barren of life.  We know it is a polluted wasteland, but the Krogan still have over a billion people left of Tuchanka, and they've been at war with each other and the rest of the galaxy on and off again for thousands of years.  The Drell might be in a similar situation, a death world with a massive die off, but at some point you would think resources would start to equalize if 90% or so of the population died due to war, famine, and disease.

[shodiswe]

Do we even know if Rhakana is barren of life.  We know it is a polluted wasteland, but the Krogan still have over a billion people left of Tuchanka, and they've been at war with each other and the rest of the galaxy on and off again for thousands of years.  The Drell might be in a similar situation, a death world with a massive die off, but at some point you would think resources would start to equalize if 90% or so of the population died due to war, famine, and disease.

We have been told there is no life left there, least no Drell. They ran out of all kind of drinking water, food, resources. Then they died. Even if there might have been water it was likely so badly poluted that it was deadly. The reasons were a combination of industrywaste and warfare between desperate populations thinking they could ge ahead of the other and increase their livignspace and resources.

The only surviviors were the ones pickedup by the Hanar who were the only species that apparently decided to involve themselves in a dying world. Unlike the Quarians the Drell had no ships or shuttles of their own to evacuate with, they were not a spacefaring civilisation just an industrial level civilisation, with no Protean or Reaper tech.
Also, the Drell wern't as hardy and resilient as the Krogans who has multiple sets of organs and redundencies to stay alive even if things get really bad.

[justafan]

We have been told there is no life left there, least no Drell. They ran out of all kind of drinking water, food, resources. Then they died. Even if there might have been water it was likely so badly poluted that it was deadly. The reasons were a combination of industrywaste and warfare between desperate populations thinking they could ge ahead of the other and increase their livignspace and resources.

The only surviviors were the ones pickedup by the Hanar who were the only species that apparently decided to involve themselves in a dying world. Unlike the Quarians the Drell had no ships or shuttles of their own to evacuate with, they were not a spacefaring civilisation just an industrial level civilisation, with no Protean or Reaper tech.
Also, the Drell wern't as hardy and resilient as the Krogans who has multiple sets of organs and redundencies to stay alive even if things get really bad.

I do not believe it ever states that they all died on Rakhana.  Only that their population exceeded their ability to provide resources, and the Hanar rescued as many as they could from the growing chaos.  By the time the Hanar came, they had discovered fusion technology, so they were at least more advanced than modern day humans.  Even without eezo, you would think they could come up with a way to keep at least a few societies running after most of them died.

[shodiswe]

The ME3 codex claims the remaining 11 billion Drell left after the evacuation ended died off in the environmental extermination.
It's environment no longer supports life.

From the Wiki:
Rakhana is a dry and barren planet covered in rocky deserts. Eight centuries ago, the already-arid drell homeworld began its swift descent into lifelessness due to disastrous industrial expansion. The drell lacked interstellar flight capacity, and with their population bursting at 11 billion they faced certain doom. Fortunately, the hanar made first contact with the drell around 2000 CE, and over the following decade they evacuated thousands of drell to their own homeworld, Kahje. The remaining billions left on Rakhana gradually perished on their dying planet, warring against each other for diminishing resources. Today, Rakhana is a cemetery world, home to only a few thousand drell living in clusters never exceeding a few hundred; during pilgrimage season the population can double.

Given that the codex says they all died off, I would assume that he few thousand that have setup clusters on the planet are people who returned and people who are supplying Drell who go there on pilgrimage to see what's left of a dead Cemetary world, as a reminder of how grateful they should be that the Hanar saved at least a few of them.
For some reason the ME3 description hasn't been added to the Codex, I guess the wiki has the ME2 one.
The ME3 description makes it sound really really bad, much worse than Tuchanka in fact.

[Excella Gionne]

To my knowledge, there are only two Drells that exist within ME. You can say, they've gone extinct even before we met them......

[shodiswe]

To my knowledge, there are only two Drells that exist within ME. You can say, they've gone extinct even before we met them......

It makes sense since the Hanar only saved 375 000 of them. That's like 2% of the Quarian population, which is already considered ridiculously small for a species in this galaxy.

[shodiswe]

Anyway, what are people supposed to say about it? Those stupid fuckers killed themselves!! Damn they are immoral! We hate them!

Not really. People take a quick look at the dissaster, shrugs and moves on. Whatever happend happend and they did it to themselves.

The people responsible likely died with the other 11 billion when the whole planet died.

[DirtyPhoenix]

As someone who hasn't been affected by environmental problem I can say the same. No hurricanes or massive floods or anything nasty. Just a perfect temperate climate with just the right amount of rain to make irrigation pretty much unnessesary. No worrying about rivers drying out, flooding and washing away cities, groundwaterlevel changes or anything else. No water rantioning or shortages.

 

Once I escaped a giant flooding, but that was more of a seasonal thing rather than an environmental catastrophe, so I'm probably safe as well, fingers crossed lol

[Massa FX]

I'm not a Drell fan myself. The memory rewinding is a bit much for me. ... well. To be blunt. I don't like the memory rewinding/replaying.

 

Please skip in future games or lessen the length and frequency of it. Also... the Drell eyes freak me out.

 

Potatoe<>Potato

[shodiswe]

I must say the memory thing didn't make much sense to me. Didn't really care that much tbh.

[RZIBARA]

Because the Drell were probably the most useless race made in the entire series, right along with the Vorcha.

 

I mean seriously, you only ever see Thane and his son in the games. Not a single other Drell is sighted (oh wait! there was one other one, but he was in a DLC). It just drives home the thought that they just made the Drell to make Thane an alien, I guarantee he was originally supposed to be a human

[AlanC9]

Because the Drell were probably the most useless race made in the entire series, right along with the Vorcha.

 

I mean seriously, you only ever see Thane and his son in the games. Not a single other Drell is sighted (oh wait! there was one other one, but he was in a DLC). It just drives home the thought that they just made the Drell to make Thane an alien, I guarantee he was originally supposed to be a human

 

That doesn't make much sense. At the time they would have had to decide to make him an alien there wouldn't have been much of a character. Just a couple of summary sentences.

[Bob from Accounting]

Because the Drell were probably the most useless race made in the entire series, right along with the Vorcha.

 

I mean seriously, you only ever see Thane and his son in the games. Not a single other Drell is sighted (oh wait! there was one other one, but he was in a DLC). It just drives home the thought that they just made the Drell to make Thane an alien, I guarantee he was originally supposed to be a human

 

Seeing as I've personally seen the press release they made on the creation of Thane, I can guarantee you're wrong. And apparently immensely clumsy at both basic reasoning and research.

[themikefest]

Seeing as I've personally seen the press release they made on the creation of Thane, I can guarantee you're wrong. And apparently immensely clumsy at both basic reasoning and research.

Why not post a link to the press release for all to see?

[Jukaga]

Because the Drell never reached space-faring status, so they are just another atomic age industrial society that was wiped out, or nearly so.

[Bob from Accounting]

http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1

 

Took me literally about 3 seconds. Perhaps I'm setting the bar too high.

[ImaginaryMatter]

http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1

 

Took me literally about 3 seconds. Perhaps I'm setting the bar too high.

 

This is actually the sort of reason why you set the bar so low. We're talking about the origin of the character, what the article talks about is what the art department did and very little about the story design of the character, his back story, the decision to make him an alien, occupation, etc. This article shows that apparently a decent portion of Thane was all ready figured out by the time it got to art. What came before is unknown, unless you have some other piece of evidence; which makes your claims no more substantiated than our webbed friend.

[Bob from Accounting]

Did you miss the part on the very first page where artist says they start out with a single paragraph of text?

 

It's overwhelmingly clear that Thane was intended to be an alien from the very beginning.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Did you miss the part on the very first page where artist says they start out with a single paragraph of text?

 

It's overwhelmingly clear that Thane was intended to be an alien from the very beginning.

 

Yes, they got a paragraph. That doesn't say much. Perhaps, that paragraph went through several edits, maybe it was one paragraph of many before they decided to go with the one they sent. Presumably there was brainstorming and drafting before there even was a paragraph. All the article says is that a paragraph was received, the work behind that paragraph is what is relevant, information none of us know.