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The way stealth in Dragon Age works I think size doesn't matter. Also, I think Qunari can use shadows and cover just as well as anyone else; in the dark or behind the wall/door/etc size doesn't matter either.

 

Imagine a Minotaur ninja sneaking around people.

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Not all rogues are about being stealthy. There were lots of 'schools' in DA2 to emphasise different styles, which gave a lot more scope for different types of rogue builds than DAO's talents.

 

The Sabotage tree involved bombs/flasks that disorientated enemies, which doesn't require any stealth or speed. Just creativity and controlling the battefield.

 

The Scoundrel tree was more like a rogue tank, drawing/re-directing aggro, supporting allies.

 

The Subterfuge tree was the only one that heavily involved stealth.


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Not all rogues are about being stealthy. There were lots of 'schools' in DA2 to emphasise different styles, which gave a lot more scope for different types of rogue builds than DAO's talents.

 

The Sabotage tree involved bombs/flasks that disorientated enemies, which doesn't require any stealth or speed. Just creativity and controlling the battefield.

 

The Scoundrel tree was more like a rogue tank, drawing/re-directing aggro, supporting allies.

 

The Subterfuge tree was the only one that heavily involved stealth.

This ^

I think the Artificer school in DAI sounds perfect for a Qunari rogue- what with their use of gaatlok and saar-quamek (apologies if I've spelt either incorrectly) I'd imagine that the qunari could be quite inventive with gases, bombs, traps etc. There is a lot more to being a rogue than quiet and stealthy in person. It requires (IMHO) more of a tactically stealthy and manipulative way of thinking, and a logical qunari artificer could do that brilliantly, I would think :)


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Sar-quamek and especially gaatlok are supposed to be the Qun's most closely guarded secrets. How would a Tal'Vashoth know them?



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How would a Tal'Vashoth know them?

 

 

The Inquisitor will be Vashoth, not Tal-Vashoth. Just putting that out here.



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Not all rogues are about being stealthy. There were lots of 'schools' in DA2 to emphasise different styles, which gave a lot more scope for different types of rogue builds than DAO's talents.

 

The Sabotage tree involved bombs/flasks that disorientated enemies, which doesn't require any stealth or speed. Just creativity and controlling the battefield.

 

The Scoundrel tree was more like a rogue tank, drawing/re-directing aggro, supporting allies.

 

The Subterfuge tree was the only one that heavily involved stealth.

None of the rogues were about being stealthy. I think there's one stealth segment in the dlc. But all the classes did it the same

 



#82
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If you have never seen a Qunari Rogue that just means they are really good I guess.


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If you have never seen a Qunari Rogue that just means they are really good I guess.

How did Kasumi from Me 2 put it....I'm the best Thief, not the most famous....


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How did Kasumi from Me 2 put it....I'm the best Thief, not the most famous....

That's about right. It was "I'm the best thief in the business, not the most famous." 



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I can see a Qunari being stealthy, but they need to make this noise when killing an enemy from behind:


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How did Kasumi from Me 2 put it....I'm the best Thief, not the most famous....

“If you're a famous smuggler, you're not doing it right.” - Ser Davos
Never watched GoT, but made my think about this quote :P



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People always seem to have problems with larger fantasy races being rogues, but I don't think it's that weird. Humans are comparatively large compared races like dwarves, gnomes, goblins etc, but they have no problem being rogues. There's no reason a large thing can't learn to be stealthy.

 

In a world with as much racial segregation as Dragon Age it makes even more sense. People forget that a Qunari rogue would have learned their craft sneaking around another Qunari. Racial size wouldn't be an issue at all in that case.


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More weight - more noise. Larger body - harder to conceal. Good luck blending in too. Unless your in a Quanri populated area. You would need to do a lot of handwaving to make a Quanri rogue viable.



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More weight - more noise. Larger body - harder to conceal. Good luck blending in too. Unless your in a Quanri populated area. You would need to do a lot of handwaving to make a Quanri rogue viable.

 

Unless you're a rogue more based on archery, traps, poisons, summoning animals to do your fighting for you, or any number of things rogues also do.


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Ridley Scott's Aliens were masters in using stealth throughout the alien trilogy, and those were easily 8ft tall. 


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Ridley Scott's Aliens were masters in using stealth throughout the alien trilogy, and those were easily 8ft tall. 

They could also climb on walls and ceilings.

 

That said, qunari women are pretty lithe. If you ask me, a tall, lithe qunari makes a better rogue than a stocky, stout dwarf.



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More weight - more noise. Larger body - harder to conceal. Good luck blending in too. Unless your in a Quanri populated area. You would need to do a lot of handwaving to make a Quanri rogue viable.

 

I swear, some of you people act like the Qunari are a 50-foot tall race who constantly scream and twirl noisemakers and whose skin flashes bright neon colors.

 

They're not that much bigger than humans, and nothing prevents them from training to be stealthy assassins.

 

I'm also not sure what you're trying to argue against, since it was officially announced long ago that Qunari can be rogues.


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I'm amazed at how people think "rogue" is synonymous to "infiltrator". It's not.

 

 

And I am even more amazed how people can seriously even TRY to argue that being a qunari rogue is any different than being a human, elvhen or dwarven rogue. You think the guards will be extra alarmed just because the guy/gal that's currently sneaking around undetected through their base is a qunari comapred to a human? Or do you people really think than a human rogue could just "blend in" with the other human guardsmen that just spotted a guy/gal sneaking through hidden castle vault #3?

 

 

There is no difference if your rogue is sneaking around undetected and there is no difference when you were spotted. One leaves no one the wiser and the latter will end in a fight anyway. Because last time I played DAO and DAII, guards wouldn't let my human rogue just waltz around just because he was a human.

 

 

 

Will someone please tell me what inane abomination of logic concludes that there's any significant difference?


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I'm amazed at how people think "rogue" is synonymous to "infiltrator". It's not.

 

 

And I am even more amazed how people can seriously even TRY to argue that being a qunari rogue is any different than being a human, elvhen or dwarven rogue. You think the guards will be extra alarmed just because the guy/gal that's currently sneaking around undetected through their base is a qunari comapred to a human? Or do you people really think than a human rogue could just "blend in" with the other human guardsmen that just spotted a guy/gal sneaking through hidden castle vault #3?

 

 

There is no difference if your rogue is sneaking around undetected and there is no difference when you were spotted. One leaves no one the wiser and the latter will end in a fight anyway. Because last time I played DAO and DAII, guards wouldn't let my human rogue just waltz around just because he was a human.

 

 

 

Will someone please tell me what inane abomination of logic concludes that there's any significant difference?

 

The idea that rejects the idea of qunari rogues, or kossith if you prefer, I don't care much. But the idea is that the qunari are large, bulky people, they are too large to be able to hide anywhere, according to OP and others in this thread.

 

I guess that pretty much sums up their logic.

 

I have no opinion on the matter myself. I am probably going to play a warrior.