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[AlanC9]

DA ][ begins very near the beginning of DA:O. With the Lothering escape. So the child would not have been born yet. Even if we assume the child was born at the start of DA ][, it would be ten years old (what's the time gap between DA ][ and DA I?), not the 30-or-so the Inquisitor will be.

 

 

DA2 ends in 9:37 Dragon. The last events on the timeline (the White Spire conflict, etc.) are in 9:40 Dragon, as is Cassandra's interrogation of Varric. I don't think DAI will start much later than that, if at all.

 

The OGB, if it exists at all, is born in 9:31 Dragon.

[Doctoglethorpe]

OGB ain't showing up in a meaningful way for years.  By the time it does, if it does, nobody will care if Bioware canonize the ritual.

 

I wouldn't mind if they did it right now though really, but most people here seem to go crazy if they find out their decisions didn't matter.  I'd rather each game have a canonized playthrough to allow better integration of expanded materials and a more concrete world state for future games.  Happened to Kotor and those games are still fun to play.  

[Kantr]

The arch demon possess the nearest Darkspawn or Grey Warden once killed. The Arch demon went into the kid. If the arch demon lost it's memories every time it changed hosts then it would be pretty harmless. 

But Darkspawn are just empty hosts.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

OGB ain't showing up in a meaningful way for years.  By the time it does, if it does, nobody will care if Bioware canonize the ritual.

 

I wouldn't mind if they did it right now though really, but most people here seem to go crazy if they find out their decisions didn't matter.  I'd rather each game have a canonized playthrough to allow better integration of expanded materials and a more concrete world state for future games.  Happened to Kotor and those games are still fun to play.  

OGB will only ever be a protagonist if they do a sidestory DLC like Leliana's Song.

[The Qun & the Damned]

Witch Hunt takes place in the year 9:32 Dragon
Plus if that whole changing hosts thing really did work, it was because the darkspawn was a soulless host that the archdemon could reemerge from, though whatever happened in the DR (IF it happened) trapped the cleansed spirit of the Old God Urthemiel in that of a mortal that can never be any of the races, ESPECIALLY QUNARI. So that's a theory that really doesn't belong anywhere except poorly written fanfiction or a Stephenie Meyer "book."

[Todd23]

There was no plan to possess Morrigan. The whole sob story is Morrigan's ploy to get the Warden to kill her mother for reasons unknown.

When talking to Hawke, Flemeth predicts Morrigan will get the Warden to kill her. This despite Morrigan's story being that she only decides to kill her after reading the grimoire from the Circle tower.

The grimoire itself? Only Morrigan can read it, as Shale points out in conversation with Morrigan. Apart from what Morrigan tells us, a person who is already hiding her true agenda as regards the Dark Ritual, there's no evidence of any plot of Flemeth's, except perhaps for the "robes of possession" you find in Flemeth's hut after killing her. Their description reads as follows:

"The original intent of these robes is clear: a "welcome home" present from Flemeth, designed to sap Morrigan's will and ease the ancient sorceress's possession of her daughter. With Flemeth dead, these robes no longer pose a danger to Morrigan--but Maker help those who get in her way."

Sounds to me like the Warden finding the robes and making an ill-informed assumption about them.

In conversation with Morrigan, Zevran comes to believe that Morrigan desires Flemeth's "kingdom", whatever that may be. That's all Morrigan's personal quest is, her using the Warden to usurp Flemeth's position and plans. It's not even to kill her permanently, since Morrigan knows Flemeth's death won't stick.

Except Morrigan says that she was wrong about Flemeth's original plan and whether or not you killed Flemeth she'll still say that you should hunt her down, if anyone. If she was trying to deceive you she is doing a ****** poor job of it and yet has a lot of evidence to back herself up and yet in da2 if you ask Flemeth, she'll say that Morrigan is neither her daughter nor her enemy. And Fenris'll say she's no blood mage, abomination or even human (just like Morrigan). I don't at all doubt that Morrigan is a liar and deceptive, but compared to Flemeth I think she's actually somewhat honest and at least has good intentions (even if more of them are selfish).

[MisterJB]

 

There was no plan to possess Morrigan. The whole sob story is Morrigan's ploy to get the Warden to kill her mother for reasons unknown.

There's this exchange between Alistair and Yavana in the Dragon Age comics written by Mr Gaider himself.

 

"We know how Flemeth intended to possess Morrigan. We stopped her...

 

Oh that poor, misguided child. It is a gift."

 

Evidently, Yavana admits to the existence of the ritual; however, she raises the possibility Morrigan misunderstood its intent.

Or maybe she just thinks being possessed by Flemeth is great.

[KaiserShep]

Behold! The adult female Qunari 10 year old!

 

I read this like...

 

Gentlemen, BEHOLD!

[Big I]

There's this exchange between Alistair and Yavana in the Dragon Age comics written by Mr Gaider himself.

 

"We know how Flemeth intended to possess Morrigan. We stopped her...

 

Oh that poor, misguided child. It is a gift."

 

Evidently, Yavana admits to the existence of the ritual; however, she raises the possibility Morrigan misunderstood its intent.

Or maybe she just thinks being possessed by Flemeth is great.

 

That is very, very interesting. I'd assumed based on Origins the whole thing was a fabrication, particularly because of Flemeth's conversation in response to the Warden coming to kill her, where Flemeth predicts in broad strokes the story Morrigan told the Warden and mentions Flemeth herself had used similar tactics in the past.

[Eveangaline]

OGB ain't showing up in a meaningful way for years.  By the time it does, if it does, nobody will care if Bioware canonize the ritual.

 

I wouldn't mind if they did it right now though really, but most people here seem to go crazy if they find out their decisions didn't matter.  I'd rather each game have a canonized playthrough to allow better integration of expanded materials and a more concrete world state for future games.  Happened to Kotor and those games are still fun to play.  

Isn't the 'canon' DAO a dalish warden that didn't do the ritual and made alistair king? So likely the concrete world state has no OGB existing at all.

[In Exile]

OGB will only ever be a protagonist if they do a sidestory DLC like Leliana's Song.

 

I think they can have an OGB background. They can just retcon the gender.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think they can have an OGB background. They can just retcon the gender.

They'd have to make the protagonist only human again still. And with them bringing race selection back and the huge cheers from the fanbase because of it, I doubt they'll get rid of it again. 

 

And if there are races, the nonhuman ones will have to have souls equivalent to that of an Old God to make it even.

[Falcon084]

What if they made a massive side mission about it, or a spin off game about it?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What if they made a massive side mission about it, or a spin off game about it?

Like I said, they'd have to do a Leliana's Song DLC type thing.

[SilkieBantam]

Age and choice discrepancies aside, I'm not quite sure how a couple of humans (in my case) are supposed to spawn an Elf a Dwarf...or a Qunari...

In the case of the Old God Baby...Grey Warden....you are....NOT THE FATHER!