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[Saints]

Gouis srsly

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

...(GIF)...

 

Sometimes it's amusing to watch your attempts to be amusing. That one was just boring.

[Lacika2000]

So what is the verdict on the Harrier?

[Creator Limbs]

actually underpowered, Biower pls buff.

[Red Panda]

actually underpowered, Biower pls buff.

That's pretty subjective.

 

Objectively speaking it's just overpowered. I can't say if it needs a buff or a nerf or even balancing. I say we all go play billiards.

[Creator Limbs]

Did you and I read the same thread?

[Red Panda]

Did you and I read the same thread?

Yes actually, it's just that I use a totally different type of logic. It's rationalistic and not empirical.

 

 

Let this thread die, you know you want to.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

So what is the verdict on the Harrier?

 

If it had a clip size of about 100, about 700 or 1000 spare ammo, and weighed half what it does, it could be quite a decent weapon. To be even better, it could replenish your grenades every time you reload.

 

Biovar are you listening. pls?

[LemurFromTheId]

So what is the verdict on the Harrier?

 

It's one of the top weapons in the game, but hardly superior to other top weapons. Among ARs it's really not any better than Saber, Typhoon or PPR except in very specific circumstances and on a very specific build. The great thing about Harrier is that you can put it on any kit and do well - but that's nothing unique, weapons like Talon, Wraith, Venom, Hurricane, Arc etc. are equally good general use weapons, it all comes down to personal preference.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Sometimes it's amusing to watch your attempts to be amusing. That one was just boring.

 

Ditto.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

If it had a clip size of about 100, about 700 or 1000 spare ammo, and weighed half what it does, it could be quite a decent weapon. To be even better, it could replenish your grenades every time you reload.

 

Biovar are you listening. pls?

 

Not amusing.

[me0120]

Not amusing.

 

He was going along with what me and Cyonan were saying. 

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

He was going along with what me and Cyonan were saying. 

 

Monster Zero once decided, on the basis that I replied to a couple of his posts in a non-serious manner, that I am "stalking" him. (I use the word that he uses. He seems to have no idea what it means.) So he follows me around the forum, making derogatory remarks at anything I post. If I reply to those posts, it convinces him that I am indeed stalking him (which is why it is clear that he is not clear on the concept.) He also once posted that he would not stop until I leave the forum - although the mods removed that post, along with several others.

 

 

He'll be along to make some remarks shortly, although denying that he actually read this, as if that's believable.

[SilentStep79]

 

Is something overpowered if it has a low skill requirement to use effectively (i.e. easy to use like the venom)?

 

 

 

 

 

 

tl;dr OP.

 

Not sure any more "useful debate" left in the community over the Harrier anyway tbh.

 

Your bit about the Venom's "low skill requirements" to be effective? Not sure I buy that, or maybe we have different definitions of "effective".

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

Your bit about the Venom's "low skill requirements" to be effective? Not sure I buy that, or maybe we have different definitions of "effective".

 

Or of "low skill". Although I can offer myself as the definition for the latter. For science.

[Nitrocuban]

leave the Harrier ALONE!!!

[Cyonan]

If it had a clip size of about 100, about 700 or 1000 spare ammo, and weighed half what it does, it could be quite a decent weapon. To be even better, it could replenish your grenades every time you reload.

 

Biovar are you listening. pls?

 

Replenishing grenades on reload just doesn't seem like enough.

 

It should actually fire Cluster Grenades.

 

Ones that are on my host and have about 50 fragments instead of 3.

[Deerber]

Replenishing grenades on reload just doesn't seem like enough.

 

It should actually fire Cluster Grenades.

 

Ones that are on my host and have about 50 fragments instead of 3.

 

... Would that hide the reload animation? If it does, then I'm game

[Cyonan]

... Would that hide the reload animation? If it does, then I'm game

 

Still need to reload it.

 

I mean, the Harrier needs to have something that balances it out. We can't have it being overpowered =P

[Deerber]

Still need to reload it.

 

I mean, the Harrier needs to have something that balances it out. We can't have it being overpowered =P

 

... I thought that was the low DPS that did it? After all, it'd be still behind the PPR...

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Replenishing grenades on reload just doesn't seem like enough.

 

It should actually fire Cluster Grenades.

 

Ones that are on my host and have about 50 fragments instead of 3.

 

And the cluster grenades should behave exactly like Scion grenades: land densely but evenly distributed exactly around an enemy that you can't see. Preferably across the map.

 

These people bitching about the Harrier being OP have NO IDEA what things could have been like if Biovar had been on the side of the players instead of in the pay of Cerberus.

[me0120]

And the cluster grenades should behave exactly like Scion grenades: land densely but evenly distributed exactly around an enemy that you can't see. Preferably across the map.

 

These people bitching about the Harrier being OP have NO IDEA what things could have been like if Biovar had been on the side of the players instead of in the pay of Cerberus.

 

I feel like 100% shield and health gates are more than anything they could've done for us weapon-wise.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I feel like 100% shield and health gates are more than anything they could've done for us weapon-wise.

 

They took bribes from both sides, but it's clear where their true loyalties lie. Otherwise we'd be able to equip the Phantom Palmblast X (an uncommon level weapon), with the per-shot damage of a Javelin, the tracking of a homing grenade, and the fire rate of the GPSMG. And have 20000 barrier while firing it.

[Red Panda]

leave the Harrier ALONE!!!

And it is. It simply is overpowered.