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Speaking objectively, the Harrier is grossly overpowered.


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I was using a Harrier X with extended mag/piercing mod, AR rail amp II, Disruptor IV on my Batsent earlier tonight. It took almost all my ammo to kill a Gold Atlas. So over-powered. Lol...

 

Yeah, I was using Cerb Harrier IV (Pierce/EB) on my BatGuard yesterday with Thermal Clip Gear, fully maxed passives for weapons damage/spare ammo, Disrupter lvl.1 and Targeting VI lvl.1. And this was the first time ever I've ever been let down by this gun. Spare ammo with this setup was satisfactory, but the damage and time to kill things was like "Did I somehow accidentally unclick the full auto feature of this gun?"

 

 

I don't play Plat regularly yet, but when I did with friends who liked to camp on various maps until/unless overwhelmed, I usually took the Harrier/Hurricane combo and that pretty much solved my ammo issues for that difficulty.

 

For Gold I usually use it with kits that increase it's damage output (Adrenalin Rush, Hunter Mode, Devastator, Tactical Cloak, Incendiary Ammo cheese, etc.) or helps increase it's ammo clip size (Pylon, maxed Batarian Extra Ammo passives - which I usually use for the Bat Sol with Incindiary Ammo cheese to devastating affect, lol). And when playing with these setups, I find it very, very OP. And players that know the game well enough do use proper setups for it. But for those that don't, then it does seem right to say it's not OP.... though come on, how many times do you not see this gun on a Ghost? It's pretty no-brainer pairing too.
 



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That says more about those kits/cheese than the gun.

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That says more about those kits/cheese than the gun.

 

I never did get the hate for the Harrier.  It is a good AR.  Simple.  And you will pay if your aim stinks due to the ammo capacity.

 

But if you aim well, it is really a solid weapon.  What is it suppose to be, a Geth Pulse rifle?


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I never did get the hate for the Harrier.  It is a good AR.  Simple.  And you will pay if your aim stinks due to the ammo capacity.

 

But if you aim well, it is really a solid weapon.  What is it suppose to be, a Geth Pulse rifle?

 

People just got used to all the AR's being near useless at the release of the game that when the Harrier came along they thought it was overpowered.

 

It probably is a hair overpowered which would be fixed if the accuracy and stability was manipulated slightly.  On the power spectrum it doesn't make the top 5 for "good on everything" weapons.


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I agree with both of you.

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People just got used to all the AR's being near useless at the release of the game that when the Harrier came along they thought it was overpowered.

 

It probably is a hair overpowered which would be fixed if the accuracy and stability was manipulated slightly.  On the power spectrum it doesn't make the top 5 for "good on everything" weapons.

LoL you serious?

 

harrier is easily the best weapon in the game. Yeah, there are weapons that is more powerful, but has to be in a specific situation. Specific map/faction

 

harrier doesn't have any of those problems



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Yeah, the Harrier is so powerful that I remember one time with the Demolisher, I actually got Harrier kills showing up as "arc grenades" in the kill feed.  True story.

:whistle:



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LoL you serious?

 

harrier is easily the best weapon in the game. Yeah, there are weapons that is more powerful, but has to be in a specific situation. Specific map/faction

 

harrier doesn't have any of those problems

 

Your next Platinum solo should be Geth Dagger Hazard with any non grenade kit and the harrier only.


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hmmm didn't know the wraith talon and venom and arc pistol only worked on specific maps/factions 

 

good to know 



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Your next Platinum solo should be Geth Dagger Hazard with any non grenade kit and the harrier only.

..also I would recommend a Marksman kit for this.


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Dex, I have a solution for you. You called me a whiner in this thread (and I certainly can fill that role, at times)

 

I play on PS3 also, so lets do a duo - Collectors / Glacier / Platinum .. we'll get one of the other BSNers to stream or record, so you can have your glory. Out of the PS3 posters here, I'm the one you'd probably look ok against (as several of them are really, really good).

 

If you outscore me, you move on to face Didacuscarrs dog (I've played a match with the poochie .. has a mean way of mashing that D pad with his paw, and bark activated thumbsticks)

 

Also, IDC if your manifest stays private; If you want to use an all 6 build IDC (hell, IDC if you use an all 9 build). Then you could show off those leet skillz to all of BSN, and back up some of your talk in the process.

 

It would be fun, we should do it! i'm at GMT -8

 

Get er done!

 

Edit: lol i went to post this in the other plat solo thread, but it was locked before I finished


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Psssh.......like Dex would ever lower himself to play with you filthy casuals.



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LoL you serious?

 

harrier is easily the best weapon in the game. Yeah, there are weapons that is more powerful, but has to be in a specific situation. Specific map/faction

 

harrier doesn't have any of those problems

 

Who's sock are you?



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I agree with both of you.

I'm so glad you saw the light.



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People still argue about this after two years?

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Dex, I have a solution for you. You called me a whiner in this thread (and I certainly can fill that role, at times)

 

I play on PS3 also, so lets do a duo - Collectors / Glacier / Platinum .. we'll get one of the other BSNers to stream or record, so you can have your glory. Out of the PS3 posters here, I'm the one you'd probably look ok against (as several of them are really, really good).

 

If you outscore me, you move on to face Didacuscarrs dog (I've played a match with the poochie .. has a mean way of mashing that D pad with his paw, and bark activated thumbsticks)

 

Also, IDC if your manifest stays private; If you want to use an all 6 build IDC (hell, IDC if you use an all 9 build). Then you could show off those leet skillz to all of BSN, and back up some of your talk in the process.

 

It would be fun, we should do it! i'm at GMT -8

 

Get er done!

 

Edit: lol i went to post this in the other plat solo thread, but it was locked before I finished

Unfortunately, I can only like this once... like x 10


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I'm so glad you saw the light.


I wasn't talking to you.
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Dex, I have a solution for you. You called me a whiner in this thread (and I certainly can fill that role, at times)
 
I play on PS3 also, so lets do a duo - Collectors / Glacier / Platinum .. we'll get one of the other BSNers to stream or record, so you can have your glory. Out of the PS3 posters here, I'm the one you'd probably look ok against (as several of them are really, really good).
 
If you outscore me, you move on to face Didacuscarrs dog (I've played a match with the poochie .. has a mean way of mashing that D pad with his paw, and bark activated thumbsticks)
 
Also, IDC if your manifest stays private; If you want to use an all 6 build IDC (hell, IDC if you use an all 9 build). Then you could show off those leet skillz to all of BSN, and back up some of your talk in the process.
 
It would be fun, we should do it! i'm at GMT -8
 
Get er done!
 
Edit: lol i went to post this in the other plat solo thread, but it was locked before I finished


Ooohoo, ZHE THUNDERDOME!

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@ Aetika - well, more like Thunderdome light .. mixing hazard maps and Collectors on PS3 is like hitting my console with a sledgehammer lol



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Dex, I have a solution for you. You called me a whiner in this thread (and I certainly can fill that role, at times)
 
I play on PS3 also, so lets do a duo - Collectors / Glacier / Platinum .. we'll get one of the other BSNers to stream or record, so you can have your glory. Out of the PS3 posters here, I'm the one you'd probably look ok against (as several of them are really, really good).
 
If you outscore me, you move on to face Didacuscarrs dog (I've played a match with the poochie .. has a mean way of mashing that D pad with his paw, and bark activated thumbsticks)
 
Also, IDC if your manifest stays private; If you want to use an all 6 build IDC (hell, IDC if you use an all 9 build). Then you could show off those leet skillz to all of BSN, and back up some of your talk in the process.
 
It would be fun, we should do it! i'm at GMT -8
 
Get er done!
 
Edit: lol i went to post this in the other plat solo thread, but it was locked before I finished


Can I record?

Better yet could I play, using my barebones PS3 manifest?

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If it happens, I'll make an effort to livestream it.

GMT -5 here, usually on at night.

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OP never makes mention that the Harrier has crap for spare ammo.. it's main balancing factor. This is why it is just 'good' when pugs use it.. because they can't make their shots count, don't know how to round the map making ammo pit stops, refuse to use thermal clips bc they need gels and rockets from their PSPs since they refuse to buy jumbos, and their aim sucks.

 

since when does not playing with a friend equal to being a bad player?



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since when does not playing with a friend equal to being a bad player?


The majority of the time. I'm pretty sure the term 'pugs' denotes a subpar/less then BSN skilled player most of the time.

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The majority of the time. I'm pretty sure the term 'pugs' denotes a subpar/less then BSN skilled player most of the time.

What about a 'pug star'? :P



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 I'm pretty sure the term 'pugs' denotes a subpar/less then BSN skilled player most of the time.

 

1. Everyone who plays ME3 online is automatically a member on BSN.

2. Some choose to come here, some don't, a lot do it read-only.

3. It's not obvious that posting on BSN automatically makes one a better player.

 

TL;DR: that makes no sense.


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