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Who would you side with flemeth or morrigan


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#51
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Well, let's roleplay a bit.

Morrigan was my Warden's LI, they performed the dark ritual and entered the Eluvian togheter. He wasn't exactly a ''hero''... my Surana was selfish and a pathological liar (he told Morrigan he killed Flemeth when in fact he let her escape) but I like to think that he grew fond of Morrigan in the end and that will support her against Flemeth.

Hawke would probably side with the old witch, since Flemeth saved her ass and Anders recommended her not to trust the Warden (and consequently, Morrigan)

 

Regarding the Inquisitor, only time will tell ;)



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Morrigan. Always Morrigan. I like Flemeth a lot but I always thought her intentions were less palatable. Just my feeling on it. Morrigan might be as bad as Flemeth, or Flemeth might be the good one. I just never thought that.

 

I'd be heart broken if she screwed my personal canon Origins PC over. She's one of my favourite characters in DA/BW universes. 

 

 

She talks about destiny and destiny is a form of order. She can also see the future which implies a "this is absolute" situation. Besides morrigan's WH stuff makes me think she on the change side, which means flemeth is against it(assuming they are on opposite sides). I might have it backwards though, idk, its really kind of too hard to tell at this point.

 
I agree. I always felt like Morrigan was the changing of fate and Flemeth was the set fate. It's difficult to put into words how it seems.

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#53
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At the moment I trust Morrigan more so I'd side with her over Flemeth, however I don't think she's completely trustable and she might have some evil plans too so I'd like to figure out first what she is plotting and why she's involved with Celene.



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A Dalish Inquisitor might feel more compelled to trust Asha'bellanar than a court mage/advisor to an Empress that they care nothing for.  The Dalish may at least *know* more about Flemeth, but then that could be a bad thing, we don't really know, but they seem to repsect and revere her.  My guess is it would be more likely to depend on the race that you're playing...in an RP sense.


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A Dalish Inquisitor might feel more compelled to trust Asha'bellanar than a court mage/advisor to an Empress that they care nothing for. The Dalish may at least *know* more about Flemeth, but then that could be a bad thing, we don't really know, but they seem to repsect and revere her. My guess is it would be more likely to depend on the race that you're playing...in an RP sense.

I always thought it was more fear then "respect and revere" but /shrugs

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As for Flemeth using you, I really doubt it.

 

"I laugh at a world full of stupid humans, who ignore the Blight's evil and abandon their vigilance to pursue mortal goals. Remember, it is up YOU to destroy the blight. Pray not for someone else to do it. It will always nip at your heels."

 

This doesn't sound like someone who came up with the dark ritual idea. It's more of Morrigan's conniving bullsh*t.



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I would side with Flemeth, as I find her to be infinitely more interesting than Morrigan, who I do like, and who doesn't like Claudia black, but Flemeth would definitely win if I had to choose one over the other.

 

Also someone who can turn into a dragon has to be better than someone who turns into a crappy spider, what a useless skill tree that was in DA:O.



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Flemeth. Much more interesting and powerful than Morrigan.



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I always thought it was more fear then "respect and revere" but /shrugs

Could indeed be fear, but I always get the impression that Merril has a kind of respect verging on reverence for her...



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Could indeed be fear, but I always get the impression that Merril has a kind of respect verging on reverence for her...

 

And Flemeth tells her to get up. "The people bend their knee too quickly". She herself isn't in need of it at least.


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Can Flemeth even be completely killed?

 

It's hard to pick against the immortal witch, if she'll just come back and get you when you least expect it.



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As a player:  Not enough information

Hero of Ferelden:  Flemeth

Orlesian Warden Commander:  Neither.  He doesn't trust Morrigan, and he has no personal interaction with Flemeth.

Hawke:  Flemeth

Inquisitor:  Not enough information.



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As for Flemeth using you, I really doubt it.

 

"I laugh at a world full of stupid humans, who ignore the Blight's evil and abandon their vigilance to pursue mortal goals. Remember, it is up YOU to destroy the blight. Pray not for someone else to do it. It will always nip at your heels."

 

This doesn't sound like someone who came up with the dark ritual idea. It's more of Morrigan's conniving bullsh*t.

 

Morrigan was flemeth creation nothing more at least in dao flemeth was morrigan only source of knowledge so only flemeth could teach morrigan that ritual. And it is rather clear that flemeth didn't help because she have good heart only because she had own benefit in that... and after all it was flemeth who send morrigan and as i said it wasn't because she had good heart



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Morrigan was flemeth creation nothing more at least in dao flemeth was morrigan only source of knowledge so only flemeth could teach morrigan that ritual. And it is rather clear that flemeth didn't help because she have good heart only because she had own benefit in that... and after all it was flemeth who send morrigan and as i said it wasn't because she had good heart

 

Oh, it's clear is it?

 

Because here I was completely dumbfounded at the mysteries in Dragon Age. All I can do is speculate and pick my poison. Everything keeps me pushing towards Flemeth, personally.

 

But at the very least, Flemeth is funnier. And has basic social skills, unlike Morrigan. So I'd just pick her on that alone.



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I romanced Morrigan, did the Dark Ritual and didn't go with her through Eluvian.

 

Flemeth is kill on sight by default due to being too dangerous to be left unchecked.

 

If Morrigan does anything remotely ''evil'' my Warden would kill her as well.

 

Her '' don't ask questions '' attitude won't cut it when she has an Old God kid with her.



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Oh, it's clear is it?

 

Because here I was completely dumbfounded at the mysteries in Dragon Age. All I can do is speculate and pick my poison. Everything keeps me pushing towards Flemeth, personally.

 

But at the very least, Flemeth is funnier. And has basic social skills, unlike Morrigan. So I'd just pick her on that alone.

 

Well in fact it is but doesn't change fact that both are sinister characters when morrigan was less dangerous in dao as i said she was rather puppet to the flemeth and was struggling to not be , now after so many years with her all bi**** she may be as well dangerous.

 

For me flemeth is annoying nothing more about social skills here we another flemeth fault as she was responsible for that after all but now morrigan could change we will have to see wait.In the end i don't trust flemeth and morrigan both will die. 



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Well in fact it is but doesn't change fact that both are sinister characters when morrigan was less dangerous in dao as i said she was rather puppet to the flemeth and was struggling to not be , now after so many years with her all bi**** she may be as well dangerous.

 

For me flemeth is annoying nothing more about social skills here we another flemeth fault as she was responsible for that after all but now morrigan could change we will have to see wait.In the end i don't trust flemeth and morrigan both will die. 

 

Why is she so sinster exactly? Point me to one thing. And do it without using Morrigan. What have you actually seen?

 

It's not "clear" to me.

 

I refuse to be one of those Ferelden soldiers at Ostagar, who jump at the mere mention of Flemeth. Because that's all this amounts to. Wild tales meant to scare idiots and children. I need more evidence.

 

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Why is she so sinster exactly? Point me to one thing. And do it without using Morrigan. What have you actually seen?

She is using protagonist to reach her own sinister goals.

Being some kind of dangerous abomnation and i don't talk here about possessed mage.

And as i said every point of morrigan philosophy was put onto her by no one other than flemeth.

If morrigan is bad flemeth is worse as she is flemeth creation as i said.

Taking someone body ritual (and no it isn't morrigan lie).  



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She is using protagonist to reach her own sinister goals.

Being some kind of dangerous abomnation and i don't talk here about possessed mage.

And as i said every point of morrigan philosophy was put onto her by no one other than flemeth.

If morrigan is bad flemeth is worse as she is flemeth creation as i said.

Taking someone body ritual (and no it isn't morrigan lie).  

 

She's not an abomination, even by Morrigan's own account. She tries to scare you into that, but then says she's wrong in WH. She doesn't know what she is.

 

Morrigan cares more about power than Flemeth ever did. I don't know if Flemeth ever taught her that. Flemeth lived in a shack, and scoffed at people who valued "worldly concerns" and petty politics. And now Morrigan is next to the Empress of Orlais.



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She's not an abomination, even by Morrigan's own account. She tries to scare you into that, but then says she's wrong in WH. She doesn't know what she is.

And what i have said it wasn't about possessed mage I was more talking about dangerous and wicked freak that can turn into dragon.



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And what i have said it wasn't about possessed mage I was more talking about dangerous and wicked freak that can turn into dragon.

In previous threads, you've said the term abomination should only refer to the possessed mages. 



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Maybe she's not a person that can turn into a dragon but a dragon with a humanoid form...



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Maybe she's not a person that can turn into a dragon but a dragon with a humanoid form...

So she's like a Manakete from the Fire Emblem series? If so, I totally want that as a race option!  :wub:



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In previous threads, you've said the term abomination should only refer to the possessed mages. 

I didn't said that... what i said was that in-universe correct meaning of abomnation is possessed mage (in fact in mage threads it should be used with that meaning) however in our world abomnation have few meanings and i said that i don't talk about possessed mage outright. 



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