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[themageguy]

How did you find this outcome?
I'm thinking of it as part of my endgame for my next trilogy playthrough with my renegade sentinel, Caladrius ( that's right, tech wizardry, space magic and is based off tevinter Mage from origins).

I've always saved wrex and cured the genophage. Thought perhaps time for something different.
Thanks everyone,

[Excella Gionne]

Nah, I never killed him on Virmire, 'cause I'm currently romancing him at the moment...still have to import....

[Farangbaa]

I've never done this. I need reading lessons.

 

My Shepards that have Wrex alive in ME have feelz for the Krogan faith, so they save the data and cure the genophage.. Those that don't kill him on Virmire, destroy the data and sabotage the cure.

[SporkFu]

I'm going to try this in my current trilogy playthrough, but I'm still early into ME2 yet, so it's going to be awhile. 

[Excella Gionne]

Okay, being serious...but I meant everything I said...

I've done a lot of things but killing Wrex on Virmire not being one of them. I can't run through the trilogy without Wrex... And about curing the Genophage ethics and crap, don't even get me started....

[themageguy]

Yeah I'm a big fan of the krogans and I always save wrex and cure the genophage.

[Bardox9]

Unless I am playing a straight up Paragon, I kill Wrex on Virmir, destroy the data in ME2, and sabotage the cure. First time I killed Wrex it was an accident. I didn't have the charm or intimidation points to save him. Prior to ME3 I always saved Wrex (minus the first playthrough) and the cure data, but in context with the events of ME3 it's better if he dies on Virmir.

 

Why? I simply lack the blind faith some have in the Krogan. I cannot see how curing the Genophage turns out well for the rest of the galaxy. If the Spectre's were a real thing, I believe they would sabotage the cure as well.

[Excella Gionne]

Yeah I'm a big fan of the krogans and I always save wrex and cure the genophage.

I used to not think about it and went solely based on preferences, but after thinking and taking in factors that apply to cure or not to cure, it really becomes more than a simple choice, but I still cure it only if Wrex and Eve are alive. If Wrex is only alive, Control it is then or Synthesis...but Eve hardly dies in my playthroughs....

[themageguy]

My renegade is being based of a tevinter Mage.....I suppose a tevinter would likely destroy something powerful in which he can't control?

[Excella Gionne]

Pro Salarian asset < Krogan Asset

 

You just got ripped off in a thousand different ways..."Salarians have minds like a maze."

[Excella Gionne]

My renegade is being based of a tevinter Mage.....I suppose a tevinter would likely destroy something powerful in which he can't control?

My Shepard doesn't deal in paragon/renegade alignment but of my personal ethical views... Renegade and Paragon are pretty much cosmetic to me.

[themageguy]

My Shepard doesn't deal in paragon/renegade alignment but of my personal ethical views... Renegade and Paragon are pretty much cosmetic to me.

Yeah I've played a " me", a paragon, a renegade who saved wrex....just thinking of something different.

[Ryriena]

For me, I only cure if I kill Wreve. As Garrus said it seems like the woman are the smart ones and that line make sense only with Wreve in charge.

[Kurt M.]

Unless I am playing a straight up Paragon, I kill Wrex on Virmir, destroy the data in ME2, and sabotage the cure. First time I killed Wrex it was an accident. I didn't have the charm or intimidation points to save him. Prior to ME3 I always saved Wrex (minus the first playthrough) and the cure data, but in context with the events of ME3 it's better if he dies on Virmir.

Why? I simply lack the blind faith some have in the Krogan. I cannot see how curing the Genophage turns out well for the rest of the galaxy. If the Spectre's were a real thing, I believe they would sabotage the cure as well.

There have always been pioneers in history. Individuals who made a society advance far beyond their actual status. Shouldn't the Krogan have the same opportunity?

There's always the risk they fail or get killed, but no more risk than others already faced.

[SporkFu]

There have always been pioneers in history. Individuals who made a society advance far beyond their actual status. Shouldn't the Krogan have the same opportunity?

There's always the risk they fail or get killed, but no more risk than others already faced.

Amen to that. 

[Excella Gionne]

There have always been pioneers in history. Individuals who made a society advance far beyond their actual status. Shouldn't the Krogan have the same opportunity?

There's always the risk they fail or get killed, but no more risk than others already faced.

I don't like bias views that don't take all considerations into hand before saying that the Krogans don't deserve a cure.

[Ryriena]

Oh and I do cure with both Wrex and Eve alive but do not cure if I don't shoot Wreve. He sucks as leader and I'd say Eve should be the one doing the leading.

[Kurt M.]

I don't like bias views that don't take all considerations into hand before saying that the Krogans don't deserve a cure.

Me neither. I agree that overpopulation worries me a bit, but I trust Bakara to handle it, along Wrex.

Sometimes all you need is a little faith and to rely burdens on others. And even if that fails, you can still go to the afterlife with your conscience clean, knowing you did your best.

After all, it's not like I approve curing the genophage with Bakara dead and Wreav ruling the krogan...

[Excella Gionne]

Humans can be more dangerous than any alien in Mass Effect.

[cap and gown]

The OP asks people who have killed Wrex and sabotaged the cure what their experience is, so naturally, people who have never done that decide they need to make lots of comments. Well, since this is going to devolve into a debate about the ethics of curing the genophage or not, at least let me try to answer the original question.

 

I have done it every which way EXCEPT I have not sabotaged the cure when Wrex was alive. I have killed Wrex on Virmire and I have also simply not recruited him in ME1. Of the two, it is better to kill him on Virmire. There are too many dialogue glitches in ME2 and ME3 if you don't recruit him.

 

When I have sabotaged the cure (obviously this is only with Wreav, since as I said I always cure with Wrex around) I have gone every different way. Maelon's data saved-Wiks/Mordin killed. Maelon's data destroyed-Wiks/Mordin saved.

 

I would say that destroying Maelon's data is a cop-out, although it does lead to more dialogue from Wreav. (It also leads to many more dialogue branches with Wrex depending on how you respond to him about it.) I found the single most tragic scene in the entire series (short of killing Wrex on the Citadel, which I have only seen on youtube) was shooting Mordin. Shooting Wiks does not have the same impact.

 

I would recommend going the Kill Wrex on Virmire > Save the Data > Kill Mordin route for a different experience.

 

I would also recommend doing at least one playthrough with Wiks instead of Mordin.

[themikefest]

Yes. I've done it several times.

 

If you have Kirrahe alive in ME3 and Thane dies protecting the Salarian Councillor, Kirrahe gives a nice speech on Earth

 

What I usually do is save Wrex, save Maleon's data, let Mordin die in ME2, sabotage the genophage by shooting Padok Wiks in the back, let the bomb blow up killing Eve and not do the Rachni mission. This gives me 0 Krogan war assets. And the best part of doing all that, I'm still able to get the best ending(the breath scene)

[Kurt M.]

Yes. I've done it several times.

If you have Kirrahe alive in ME3 and Thane dies protecting the Salarian Councillor, Kirrahe gives a nice speech on Earth

What I usually do is save Wrex, save Maleon's data, let Mordin die in ME2, sabotage the genophage by shooting Padok Wiks in the back, let the bomb blow up killing Eve and not do the Rachni mission. This gives me 0 Krogan war assets. And the best part of doing all that, I'm still able to get the best ending(the breath scene)

There are lots of ways to get the best ending. Heck, with enough MP promotions, you don't even need any other War Asset.

[themageguy]

The OP asks people who have killed Wrex and sabotaged the cure what their experience is, so naturally, people who have never done that decide they need to make lots of comments. Well, since this is going to devolve into a debate about the ethics of curing the genophage or not, at least let me try to answer the original question.
 
I have done it every which way EXCEPT I have not sabotaged the cure when Wrex was alive. I have killed Wrex on Virmire and I have also simply not recruited him in ME1. Of the two, it is better to kill him on Virmire. There are too many dialogue glitches in ME2 and ME3 if you don't recruit him.
 
When I have sabotaged the cure (obviously this is only with Wreav, since as I said I always cure with Wrex around) I have gone every different way. Maelon's data saved-Wiks/Mordin killed. Maelon's data destroyed-Wiks/Mordin saved.
 
I would say that destroying Maelon's data is a cop-out, although it does lead to more dialogue from Wreav. (It also leads to many more dialogue branches with Wrex depending on how you respond to him about it.) I found the single most tragic scene in the entire series (short of killing Wrex on the Citadel, which I have only seen on youtube) was shooting Mordin. Shooting Wiks does not have the same impact.
 
I would recommend going the Kill Wrex on Virmire > Save the Data > Kill Mordin route for a different experience.
 
I would also recommend doing at least one playthrough with Wiks instead of Mordin.

Thanks. This was indeed the sort of response I was after. Your suggestion also makes sense for tevinter shep.
Thanks!

[themikefest]

There are lots of ways to get the best ending. Heck, with enough MP promotions, you don't even need any other War Asset.

No kidding. I don't play MP.

[mybudgee]

My Canon Vanguard Femshep did indeed let Wrex be killed. She sabotaged the cure too... I regret the first part (It was part of the motivation to try a nicer Paragon Shepard.)

:S