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[von uber]

ME2 feels very episodic. The main collector plot feels tacked on to the episodic structure of the recruitment and character missions (as they are all largely self contained stories).
It's a great game, but not great for the second episode in a trilogy.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

I would have changed Shepard's death scenario to something similar to Starkiller in TFU: He is ejected into space and asphyxiates from a damaged oxygen seal while being frozen in space. Actually, it's more similar to what happened to Dr. Frank Poole in 2001: A Space Odyssey, and how he was recovered and resurrected in 3001: The Final Odyssey.

His brain would still boil, though. If the seal is broken, then all the air leaves and once again, because the tube opens into the helmet, he gets some nice vacuum exposure. 

[KaiserShep]

Slipping into a coma without the whole suit rupture and atmospheric entry is still my preferred route.

[DeinonSlayer]

I would have changed Shepard's death scenario to something similar to Starkiller in TFU: He is ejected into space and asphyxiates from a damaged oxygen seal while being frozen in space. Actually, it's more similar to what happened to Dr. Frank Poole in 2001: A Space Odyssey, and how he was recovered and resurrected in 3001: The Final Odyssey.

And here I thought I was the only one who read that.

[dreamgazer]

 

Okay, point by point:

1) All relays orbit.  Heck the Charon relay is actually supposed to be Charon, as in the moon orbiting Pluto.  SO what difference does it make if the relay is on the ground or in space?

 

2) How do you know the Mako can't transmit this info, or the Conduit couldn't detect that on its own?

 

3) You realize that relays let ships pass through planets, asteroids, other ships, even stars, right?

 

4) While the amount of drift was fortuitously low enough that it didn't end up in a wall, it's not really unusual that the Mako came out at a velocity similar to what it entered the corridor at.

 

5) No, it doesn't.  Dawdle too long and it turns off

 

Relays need to line up.  Ilos' orbit and the static conduit make that close to impossible.

 

I'd assume the Mako doesn't have the same navigational equipment as a space-faring vessel. You're giving the relays extra-magical properties.

 

Yes, but this is a prototype, and the Citadel is a complex obstacle for several reasons.

 

I wouldn't so easily dismiss the drift, and you could feasibly go through it with little velocity.  Its output velocity is, however, standard.

 

And yes, I know it closes.  It stays open just long enough for the Mako to go through it, after its many years of abandonment.

 

The way it functions is less of a relay, and far more of a convenient teleportation device.

 

 

Except no one ever learns how a telepathic plant works.  It will remain a mystery to the galaxy for the foreseeable future.  Cerberus mastered Lazarus tech enough to get it working.  And there's at least one person (Miranda) who knows how it works

 

And I've said before that some dialogue with Miranda about its intricacies would be beneficial. But they're both "mysteries", with one that's more likely to be deciphered than the other given current research on reactivating brain tissue.  Anyway, yes, the Thorian's abilities are plot-sensitive space magic. 

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

There wouldn't be any brain tissue to recover; it wouldn't be considered a brain. 

There is absolutely no way Lazarus Project would work. Biology would like to have a word with Mac. 

[dreamgazer]

Slipping into a coma without the whole suit rupture and atmospheric entry is still my preferred route.

 

If they absolutely needed to knock Shepard out of commission to jump head two years and alter everything, yeah.

[Ryriena]

Slipping into a coma without the whole suit rupture and atmospheric entry is still my preferred route.

I agree that slipping into the coma is also my preferred route, as well in one of my fan fictions I rewrote that into the plot line. I had female Shepard fall in too a coma after she was hit with falling rubble during the Normandy's attack. However, Kaiden or Ashley are able to pull her into the escape pod. Yes their will be no joker being stupid in the first scene. I got that idea from a comic idea with Kaiden having a nightmare of Shepard's demise.

[dreamgazer]

There wouldn't be any brain tissue to recover; it wouldn't be considered a brain. 

There is absolutely no way Lazarus Project would work. Biology would like to have a word with Mac. 

 

Well, a lot of these comments are giving the situation the benefit of the doubt about the tissue's integrity.

 

And I wouldn't be so quick to pawn this off on Mac.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Well, a lot of these comments are giving the situation the benefit of the doubt about the tissue's integrity.

 

And I wouldn't be so quick to pawn this off on Mac.

The problem is, there is no room to give the benefit of the doubt. 

Mac is the figure head/beating bag for the poor logic and writing of ME2/ME3, and he's not to blame for all of it. But Cerberus was his brain child, and I'd guess he wrote the way to shoehorn Shepard into it. 

[Ryriena]

Well, a lot of these comments are giving the situation the benefit of the doubt about the tissue's integrity.

And I wouldn't be so quick to pawn this off on Mac.

I am still confused with how good of shape Shepard's body was in after reentry. I find it hard to believe that the body had anything left after reentry into planet.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

And here I thought I was the only one who read that.

 

It's Arthur C. Clarke. I'm not skimping on him. 

 

Granted, I'm pretty sure that's the definition of odd/bad ending right there. Even 2001 had a more understandable ending than that 3001. Granted, 3001 was more straightforward as well.

 

And then my inner 9 year old squee's with joy at Godzilla (a ****** awesome Kaiju film) and the possibility of a Pacific Rim sequel (an even more ****** awesome Kaiju film that's surprisingly well put together).

[DeinonSlayer]

I've never seen Pacific Rim, but I remember a lot of people talking about it on these boards... may have to correct that.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I am still confused with how good of shape Shepard's body was in after reentry. I find it hard to believe that the body had anything left after reentry into planet.

 

He wouldn't have: unless the resident professor is in (he's not), Shepard would have been incinerated completely upon reentry. That's one thing that was done bad. The method to kill Shepard borders on hilarious overkill (though in hindsight, it makes him that much more awesome by how it takes that much to kill him to begin with): They blow up his ship, asphyxiate him, send him hurtling at hypersonic velocities through a planetary atmosphere, and smash him into a planet at terminal velocity (if not faster).

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I've never seen Pacific Rim, but I remember a lot of people talking about it on these boards... may have to correct that.

 

Watch it. Now.

 

Then watch the Honest Trailer and CinemaSins (both on youtube) for it.

 

It's a new IP made by Guillermo Del Toro and Travis Beacham. The premise and universe are actually extremely interesting (I'm really hoping it has a chance to grow as an IP). There's a novelization for it, a surprisingly addictive Xbox and PSN arcade game for it, and it's big on world building. Take it with a grain of salt for its science: it's giant robots punching Kaiju in the face. It was made out of pure love and as an homage to the giant mecha and kaiju genre's. And literally every single thing in the film has the ****** coolest sounding names ever. All the giant robots (including their name), all the kaiju, all the technology, and all the characters, every last one of them has a badass name.

 

And there's a Design a Jaeger site for it too. It's pretty cool.

 

It's badass alone for this:

 

 

Lastly, arguably the most badass soundtrack in film for a while. By Ramin Djawadi. EXPLODE!

 

Despite the title, this was also a reasonable article I liked comparing PR and Godzilla.

[Jorji Costava]

I agree that slipping into the coma is also my preferred route, as well in one of my fan fictions I rewrote that into the plot line. I had female Shepard fall in too a coma after she was hit with falling rubble during the Normandy's attack. However, Kaiden or Ashley are able to pull her into the escape pod. Yes their will be no joker being stupid in the first scene. I got that idea from a comic idea with Kaiden having a nightmare of Shepard's demise.

 

I think the coma route is definitely preferable to what we got, but there are still one or two things that would have to be worked out: Most significantly, two year time skip is supposed to at least incentivize joining Cerberus; Lazarus does this by making Cerberus responsible for Shepard's resurrection, but if Shep just spent two years in an Alliance hospital, why would he/she want to join Cerberus on waking up?

 

Way back when, I suggested a scenario whereby Shepard would spend two years being held captive by Batarians or something like that, believed dead by everyone else, only to find that upon escaping, he/she is now persona non grata (for reasons I'm too lazy to explain here); discarded by both the Alliance and the Council, Shep is seemingly left with no other options to deal with the Reaper threat. Alternatively, it could be that Shepard is asked by Alliance top brass to infiltrate Cerberus a la Alec Leamas in The Spy Who Came in From the Cold. There are a couple layers I could add to this, but I'll just leave it there for now.

[KaiserShep]

Yeah my inner 12 year old got high off of Pacific Rim.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

 The method to kill Shepard borders on hilarious overkill (though in hindsight, it makes him that much more awesome by how it takes that much to kill him to begin with): They blow up his ship, asphyxiate him, send him hurtling at hypersonic velocities through a planetary atmosphere, and smash him into a planet at terminal velocity (if not faster).

*Ahen*

[dreamgazer]

Del Toro mentioned recently that he might be going for a Voltron mega-Jaeger deal if/when Pacific Rim 2 comes to fruition.

[Mathias]

The way I see it the trilogy is in shambles anyway after ME3's ending. The Reaper storyline ended up being a whole lot of stupid, so if anything it's refreshing to play ME2 where you don't focus on the Reapers. If ME3 was better made and the resolution with the Reapers was a lot better, then yea ok I probably would've looked back at ME2 as basically a glorified filler. Best filler ever, but filler nonetheless. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Yeah my inner 12 year old got high off of Pacific Rim.

 

I heard the theme first. That's when I had to see the movie. 

 

 

The movie deserved on Oscar based on Tom Morello's riff alone.

 

And it got snubbed for best special/visual effects as well. 

[KaiserShep]

Yeah I downloaded the soundtrack right after going to its release. Ramin did a stellar job with the GoT soundtracks as well, not to mention the first Iron Man.

[Deathsaurer]

I am still confused with how good of shape Shepard's body was in after reentry. I find it hard to believe that the body had anything left after reentry into planet.

Jacob said meat and tubes. That doesn't exactly sound like good shape.

[KaiserShep]

Maybe Jacob likes to exaggerate a lot.

 

*skins knee* "How does it look, Jacob?"

 

"Damn. Gravity's gonna be a mean mother with just one leg."

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 H's ME3 re-write ideas here: [linky]

 

 

Straight from the 'Archives.

 

 

Another idea I had for rewriting ME3, which I haven't detailed, involves following up on ME1&2 with no new plot developments at all.

 

So basically, the galaxy is hopelessly screwed.

 

ME3 basically becomes a tragic horror story where Shepard goes to each planet, trying to figure out some way to stop them, but all his/her efforts fail. With each failure, Shepard sees each civilization of the galaxy fall one by one, with every subsequent mission bringing new husk horrors he must fight. Old friends of Shepard also get indoctrinated and need be put down as they attack Shepard. None of your previous decisions change anything. The Reapers roll. In a last act of defiance, Shepard places a beacon with something that's believed to be the key to stopping the Reapers forever before he himself is taken by them...

 

... and then, we witness the next cycle's war: they fail too.