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[Exaltation]

Amell + Hawke + Cadash = too much power?

Short:
Amell Warden - Romance Alistair and/or Chancellor. (+ Urthemiel Theirin/Amell)
Hawke - Viscount/ess and/or marrying Sebastian. (rival)
Shayle Cadash (Shale) - Companion to the Warden,Golem/Dwarf Noble?
If the developers haven't changed it -,it's possible to be a Cadash (Dwarf?) Inquisitor in DAI.

Long:
Female Amell Warden can romance Alistair and put him on the throne,even if married to Anora the player can continue the relationship with Alistair,t's also possible to make him sole ruler and make your Warden his Chancellor,in this situation if he is unhardened as well then basically your female Amell Warden rules Ferelden through him,with the Dark Ritual you will also have Urthemiel Theirin.

Male Amell Warden though can't romance Alistair/Anora can still put unhardened Alistair as sole ruler and make the Warden Chancellor,controlling Ferelden through him,and possible to have Urthemiel Amell/Theirin with the Dark Ritual.

Though it's still unknown what role will Urthemiel have in DAI. (Dark Ritual)

Hawke can become the Viscount/ess of Kirkwall if sided with the Templars.
Female Hawke can romance Sebastian on rival path,marrying to him if he successfully retakes Starkhaven and becomes the Prince,though there is no mention of what happens to Sebastian in the end game,hopefully information regarding him and Starkhaven will be revealed in DAI.
If Hawke is male or not interested in romancing him but still on rival path and became the Viscount/ess,Sebastian can still be a valuable ally.

Shale,though a possible companion to the Warden,doesn't have any significant influence other than reducing the pigeon population in Thedas or helping fighting the Darkspawn in Orzammar,though she can also become a Dwarf again it's unknown if her noble status in Orzammar has been reclaimed,and there is of course the matter of the Anvil of the Void if exists or destroyed,though it is known that no good came of it if still exists. (DAO/TGOA)

It's unknown how much connection will a Cadash Inquisitor have to Shale and the Anvil of the Void,but depends on actions done with both by an Amell Warden then i guess the Cadash Inquisitor will be on good terms with them.

What you think?

[EmperorSahlertz]

Shale does not become a Dwarf again. She wishes to become one, but it is never stated to have succeeded. And the Cadash family is minor at best, so it isn't very influential, if even a part of Orzammar society anymore.

[Exaltation]

The game states she becomes a Dwarf again if the Warden dies,Friendly (76 - 100 approval) + Anvil of the Void destroyed.

“Shale left Ferelden soon after the battle at Denerim, refusing all offers of reward by the royal court. The golem was not seen again... but rumors abounded of an angry dwarven woman in the far north who hunted pigeons with reckless abandon.”

Although in this situation you can't become the Chancellor,but the Ferelden Circle of Magi is granted autonomy.

[EmperorSahlertz]

The epilogues are disregarded unless otherwise stated. And you should also note that what you just quoted is not actually a statement of the fulfillment of Shale's wishes.

[Zymandis]

Amell Warden - Romance Alistair and/or Chancellor. (+ Urthemiel Theirin/Amell)

 

Do you really think that Morrigan would use the name of her baby daddy's main squeeze?

[Exaltation]

He have the soul of Urthemiel in him,so until we know his name,assuming Morrigan will even tell us in DAI,or might give us a false name,then he is Urthemiel for me.

[Solas]

Do you really think that Morrigan would use the name of her baby daddy's main squeeze?

I think it was meant as the name of her baby daddy - either Alistair theirin if the amell warden is female, or Amell warden, if the warden is male.

[Arakiel12409]

House Cadash is not a Noble House, it is part of the Warrior Caste, as stated in Shale's codex entry. So the Dwarven Inquisitor would be Warrior Caste (which makes sense, if you look at the classes available to dwarves) before departing to the surface.

[Wolfen09]

according to the developers, the cadash inquisitor is a surface dwarf...  which means either the house was exiled like varrics or just one person/family was exiled after going to surface

[Former_Fiend]

I'd argue that a Cousland warden would/could become considerably more powerful, politically, than an Amell. Besides possibly becoming Queen or King(prince consort my ass) , they're next in line for Highever in addition to the other titles they receive, and even if they don't inherit, they have the ability to influence Fergus. 

[Former_Fiend]

The Aeducan warden't can't become King, as far as I'm aware, but they can become a Paragon, which, within Orzamar, has them rivaling the King in terms of power. 

[Former_Fiend]

I know epilogues aren't canon, but.... If the Warden sides with Harrowmont he dies from being to much of a ***** and Aeducan is heir to the throne.

 

I know he dies, but I don't recall(and can't find on the wiki) any mention of him naming an Aeducan warden as his heir.

[Former_Fiend]

I vaguely remember the suggestion that a male Aeducan warden's son may be taken in by either Bhelen or Pyral and be named heir if no others were produced before their respective deaths.

[Han Shot First]

I'd argue that a Cousland warden would/could become considerably more powerful, politically, than an Amell. Besides possibly becoming Queen or King(prince consort my ass) , they're next in line for Highever in addition to the other titles they receive, and even if they don't inherit, they have the ability to influence Fergus. 

 

I agree with this.

 

At least as far as Ferelden is concerned a Cousland Warden enjoys the most political power in the kingdom, and moreso than an Amell Warden. I'd also say that a Cousland Warden is much more politically powerful than Viscount Hawke.

[Han Shot First]

 

I doubt all the nobles from every thaig all across Thedas survived and relocated to Orzammar, or that they all stayed in power for centuries. Once Shale discovers her identity, we don't hear of any living Cadash nobles in Orzammar for her to claim kin with, and the Dwarf Inquisitor is described as a surface dwarf. Cadash has likely long lost its wealth and political influence, either because of the darkspawn swarming the Deep Roads long ago, being on the losing side of Dwarven politics some time these last several centuries, getting banished to the surface like Varric's family, etc.

 

 

The Cadash actually weren't part of the nobility. They were warrior caste. Of course caste means little to surface dwarf anyway, but a Cadash Inquisitor doesn't appear to be descended from nobility. Or at least he or she isn't descended from nobility on the same gender parent's line.

[KC_Prototype]

Now you have me excited.

[ChaosMorning]

The game states she becomes a Dwarf again if the Warden dies,Friendly (76 - 100 approval) + Anvil of the Void destroyed.

“Shale left Ferelden soon after the battle at Denerim, refusing all offers of reward by the royal court. The golem was not seen again... but rumors abounded of an angry dwarven woman in the far north who hunted pigeons with reckless abandon.”

Although in this situation you can't become the Chancellor,but the Ferelden Circle of Magi is granted autonomy.

 

The epilogue's should be taken with a grain of salt until we've seen them actually be implemented in game.

 

The Ferelden Circle isn't granted autonomy, even if the Magi Warden asks for it.

 

As for Shale, if they survive the events of Origins then the next time they are seen it is in Asunder, where they are still a golem.

[Sir Froggie]

When did the devs confirm that Cadash inquisitor was a surface dwarf? Could someone provide a link or something?