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#151
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And if they let T'soni do what Traynor was doing, Liara would be more of  an idiot than she was in the game. Liara was better suited to be with the Crucible. She had no purpose being on the Normandy and that's how it should've been.

More purpose than Traynor. Every. Single. Thing. Traynor does could realistically be done by EDI or Liara. As much as you hate them, the Shadow Broker and an super advanced AI make much more sense to be finding missions and whatnot for Shepard. 

Think objectively. 


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#152
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So, how about that James Vega? He's pretty cool, right?



#153
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So, how about that James Vega? He's pretty cool, right?

Yeah, nice dude. He does a good job keeping the atmosphere light. Is he an N6, or something? Seeing as to be accepted into the N7 program one must first be an N6. 



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More purpose than Traynor. Every. Single. Thing. Traynor does could realistically be done by EDI or Liara. As much as you hate them, the Shadow Broker and an super advanced AI make much more sense to be finding missions and whatnot for Shepard. 

Think objectively. 

No. T'soni knows nothing about communications and she would look like a fool trying to figure out what the transmissions meant. You take away her drone and agents and she is nothing. Traynor does it on her own from the training she received.



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No. T'soni knows nothing about communications and she would look like a fool trying to figure out what the transmissions meant. You take away her drone and agents and she is nothing. Traynor does it on her own from the training she received.

That's EDI's job. That hyper-intelligent AI that spends her free time running simulations on whether or not Mass Effect exists in other universes. 


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That's EDI's job. That hyper-intelligent AI that spends her free time running simulations on whether or not Mass Effect exists in other universes. 

In that case,  the robot can do T'soni's job as well.


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In that case,  the robot can do T'soni's job as well.

She probably could do a pretty good job at it, if Liara would let her. 



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She probably could do a pretty good job at it, if Liara would let her. 

Liara may not let it, but my femshep would throw T'soni off the ship, if that's what it took to let the robot do T'soni's job. I doubt T'soni could stop the thing anyways.



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Liara may not let it, but my femshep would throw T'soni off the ship, if that's what it took to let the robot do T'soni's job. I doubt T'soni could stop the thing anyways.

Best case scenario would be to let Liara manage the agents while EDI manages the data. 



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Walking & saluting man can do everything Traynor, EDI, Liara and Pressly's ghost can do.


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Best case scenario would be to let Liara manage the agents while EDI manages the data. 

Or tell the platform to go back to its hologram form and worry about the Normandy, then have T'soni tossed to hackett and let Traynor do the comms


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#163
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Or tell the platform to go back to its hologram form and worry about the Normandy, then have T'soni tossed to hackett and let Traynor do the comms

 

EDI: "Shepard, I recommend using the Eva Core platform to assist in infiltrating the station's systems."

Shepard: "Negative EDI. You can assist remotely while my squad makes its way to the central lab."

EDI: "As you wish, Shepard."

10 minutes later...

 

Station VI: "Security breach in hangar 16. Initiating Achilles Protocol."

 

EDI: "Shepard, Cerberus intends to vent the hangar bay!"

 

Shepard: "Can you stop them?"

EDI: "An active console is required, but it is taking time to break through the firewall."

Shepard: "Just tell me where the console is."

EDI: "Searching. Terminal directories are hidden. You must find a way out of the hangar."

Shepard: "EDI?? Need a little hel..." *air vented*



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All they have to do is have the thing do the same it did on the Collector ship in ME2. But Bioware wanted a robot squadmate.


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And perhaps so TIM would have something other than his indoctrinated rambling to make a case for control. In any event, it doesn't really matter. Using a fully-sealed suit and equipping gravity boots should presumably make a little evacuation of the hangar bay's atmosphere a total cakewalk. Then you just make your way through the place the old fashioned way by blowing sh*t up.



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And perhaps so TIM would have something other than his indoctrinated rambling to make a case for control. In any event, it doesn't really matter. Using a fully-sealed suit and equipping gravity boots should presumably make a little evacuation of the hangar bay's atmosphere a total cakewalk. Then you just make your way through the place the old fashioned way by blowing sh*t up.

 

I found that scene a little weird. Like who cares if they vent the hanger, aren't these suits designed for combat in zero-gravity and the vacuum of space?



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This is what happens when you watch too much Star Wars. People nonchalantly wander around next to a big freaking hole in the side of the ship that's open out into space, and everyone's thinking "Eh, that force field couldn't possibly collapse." *power failure*



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Eh, I never really understood why we need a Vega. What they should of done is given us a replacement for whoever died back on Virmire. For example if Kaidan died give us a female sentinel and if Ashley died give us Vega. Just only giving us Vega is stupid. We can do without another Jarhead. Vega & Chobot were only in ME3 for promotional reasons and other unnecessary fandom. I rather have Javik throw them both out of the airlock unless someone can give me a good reason as to how they tie up into the story an how important they are to it & why. Otherwise I'd kill em both.



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What you're suggesting doesn't make sense. Why would the outcome of the VS choice affect Vega's spot on the ship? Aside from that, it's now more costly for development because they'd have to create this whole other character that exists for no real reason. It's clear that your preferred route would simply be to scrap him altogether and create a non-jarhead type, which could easily just become another Jacob.

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Eh, I never really understood why we need a Vega. What they should of done is given us a replacement for whoever died back on Virmire. For example if Kaidan died give us a female sentinel and if Ashley died give us Vega. Just only giving us Vega is stupid. We can do without another Jarhead. Vega & Chobot were only in ME3 for promotional reasons and other unnecessary fandom. I rather have Javik throw them both out of the airlock unless someone can give me a good reason as to how they tie up into the story an how important they are to it & why. Otherwise I'd kill em both.

 

So you claim its totally pointless for there to be someone on the crew to represent the point of view of someone completely new and ignorant of the series at large?



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It does make sense. Vega is a soldier therefore if ashely were too die then having vega as her replacement in ME3 would make sense for the sake of having a soldier versus having two soldiers (Ashley & Vega) on the ship instead of having two sentinels or 1 sentinel & 1 soldier. If bioware doesn't want to do additional work then Vega doesn't need to be in ME3. Vega's existence doesn't make sense period.

 

@Tsunayoshi My claim is that we don't need Vega because having him isn't necessary for the story or the war period. His existence to ME3 isn't needed or required. We can do without him. End of discussion.



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We could do without a lot of characters. We don't really need even half of ME2's team. We don't need Wrex or Garrus in ME1. We don't need Specialist Traynor, or Gabby and Kenneth. If we pared the game down to what we absolutely needed for the story to progress, it'd be pretty frakkin' empty. This isn't a matter of what's required; it's simply a matter of what you desire, or rather, what you want removed because you don't like it. If you liked Vega, none of this necessity stuff would make a lick of difference.
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OMG I totally forgot about Gabby & Kenneth lol. I could of saved them but decided to feed my fish first then hit up the collector base. Kelly's death was hilarious. That aside I still don't see the point of having chobot, cortez, or others but Vega especially. Reason being is because he's a squadmate. I really do not see the point in his existence in ME3.



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It does make sense. Vega is a soldier therefore if ashely were too die then having vega as her replacement in ME3 would make sense for the sake of having a soldier versus having two soldiers (Ashley & Vega) on the ship instead of having two sentinels or 1 sentinel & 1 soldier. If bioware doesn't want to do additional work then Vega doesn't need to be in ME3. Vega's existence doesn't make sense period.

 

@Tsunayoshi My claim is that we don't need Vega because having him isn't necessary for the story or the war period. His existence to ME3 isn't needed or required. We can do without him. End of discussion.

 

Thats a cute little ignorant child. Ignore the question because you have no means of rebutting.

 

I'll ask again since you probably misunderstood: Are you claiming that there was no reason for there to be a character to represent those unaware of events at large throughout the series?



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The point is, when someone likes a character, their necessity to be a part of the team tends to take a back seat. This is easy to observe in the more vocal Liara critics. Some people who don't like her character tend to tack on the idea that she's not a necessary part of the group, yet those who like her character tend not to care.