Ferelden heir
#1
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 03:09
#2
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 03:23
Does anyone think ferelden will have one ?
The prospects certainly don't look good, but I'm hoping it will. After just going through a Civil War (and a Blight) t I'd hate to see it go through another succession crisis after the Warden, Alistair, or Anora dies.
Assuming the DA series eventually takes us past a point in the timeline where the Ferelden monarchs would have died, I hope an heir is written into the lore and that his or her ascension is bloodless. Otherwise it will seem as beyond the Blight the Warden accomplished little in the long term.
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#3
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 06:13
Hope not, Ferelden need to be weakened even more so Orlais can reconquer them.
#4
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 06:23
Could be. While anora was rumored to be barren, it being true has never been confirmed. The problem is alistair assuredly has low fertility. Still, we know wardens can sometimes have kids.
#5
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 06:40
Fereldens heir is Fergus Cousland / Arl Eamon....whoever wins the next civil war =D.. My warden being a cousland and all i'm personally hoping for Fergus.
#6
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 07:32
Could be. While anora was rumored to be barren, it being true has never been confirmed. The problem is alistair assuredly has low fertility. Still, we know wardens can sometimes have kids.
Well, Anora by herself doesn't take a new husband, so we can never test that theory. Her only potential spouses are basically sterile GWs she's not especially into physically.
#7
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 07:46
Not sure why but as I was reading the thread I just imagined Bioware making us the Ferelden Heir that has to prove himself/herself to the people as the masses are distrusting of the Royal Family after they were established before the Blights end. Some people think now the Grey Wardens are controlling the country and other weird stuff I can't make up off the top of my head lol.
I do hope so though, in my Playthrough my Warden became Queen with Alistar in hopes they could beat the odds that are stacked against them and continue the Royal line. I am just hoping the time my Warden spent in Court with Alistar was because they did manage to beat the odds lol. I do believe in Miracles.
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#8
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 06:17
Possibilities for an heir:
Alistair's other brother: If Alistair's story about who his mother is is accurtate, then Maric's son by Fiona is still running around (personally I think Alistair is that person)
Alistair/Anora: Anora is rumoured to be infertile and Alistair as a Grey Warden makes it unlikely in any case
Warden/Anora: See above
Alistair/Warden: Two Grey Wardens make this super unlikely
Alistair's bastards: His attitude to sex and him being a Grey Warden make this not likely.
Maric Returns: Maric didn't die, but was instead kidnapped and experimented on by a Tevinter magister. The latest DA comic series ended with Maric's body being dead, but his disembodied spirit continuing to exist in the Fade. Usually that would be reason to write him off, but DAI has a lot of creatures from the Fade entering the world physically via the breach...
The OGB: If Alistair does the Dark Ritual with Morrigan, the OGB is his heir (although Morrigan probably has bigger plans for him than ruling Ferelden).
Deus Ex Machina: If the writers want their to be a naturally occuring Ferelden heir they can easily do so by saying 1) whichever couple is ruling Ferelden beat the odds when it came to having children, or 2) blood magic/deals with Fade spirits/Avernus' research/whatever mean someone who was thought not to be able to have kids now can.
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#9
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 06:39
Possibilities for an heir:
Alistair's bastards: His attitude to sex and him being a Grey Warden make this not likely.
Deus Ex Machina: If the writers want their to be a naturally occuring Ferelden heir they can easily do so by saying 1) whichever couple is ruling Ferelden beat the odds when it came to having children, or 2) blood magic/deals with Fade spirits/Avernus' research/whatever mean someone who was thought not to be able to have kids now can.
I would like to think my Warden and Alistair beat the odds and managed it. The game said it would only be hard not that it was impossible from what I remember. I'd like to think when you beat the Origins or Awakening(can't remember which one it was),but the background for Queen Warden is she stays in Court for awhile, that it was a sign that a child may have been birth than. Kinda like the only reason your Warden did the whole Court thing was because she had to.
Than on your Deus Ex Machina, I believe there is a cure or a way to suppress the Taint because Avernus is proof of it alone. I believe you even leave him to research a permanent cure to the Taint after completing the DLC.
But either way I think the Warden disappearance is because they are trying to find a cure to the Taint, so before you reach that time of becoming a ghoul you can than be cured and not have to die in the Deeproads to prevent the ghoul change.
#10
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 07:49
I would like to think my Warden and Alistair beat the odds and managed it. The game said it would only be hard not that it was impossible from what I remember. I'd like to think when you beat the Origins or Awakening(can't remember which one it was),but the background for Queen Warden is she stays in Court for awhile, that it was a sign that a child may have been birth than. Kinda like the only reason your Warden did the whole Court thing was because she had to.
Than on your Deus Ex Machina, I believe there is a cure or a way to suppress the Taint because Avernus is proof of it alone. I believe you even leave him to research a permanent cure to the Taint after completing the DLC.
But either way I think the Warden disappearance is because they are trying to find a cure to the Taint, so before you reach that time of becoming a ghoul you can than be cured and not have to die in the Deeproads to prevent the ghoul change.
DG said this won't happen, but he's not averse to people headcannon's about it.
#11
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Posté 24 mai 2014 - 07:58
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I'm hoping that, unlike Cailan's, Alistair's boys can swim and that he manages to knock up Anora... and that she eventually like the guy. People say Morrigan's cold-blooded, pssh.
#12
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:28
I think FemWarden/Alistair managaing it is wishful thinking sadly.
If I had to I'd put money on one of the following:
- Maric's other bastard(s)
- Eamon or Fergus's line maybe
- The writers write someone onto the throne by civil war or whatever
I keep reading this topic as "ferelden hair"...
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#13
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:32
As much as I'd love for my Warden and Alistair to beat the odds and have an heir, it doesn't look like that will happen, in this case, I'd like to see it fall to Fergus, that seems far more likely to me.
#14
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:35
I thought it said ferelden hair
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#15
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:36
I can see Fergus being a potential heir as well,I always thought he was "spared" for a reason...
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#16
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:36
I thought it said ferelden hair
Haha, so did I when I first saw it...
#17
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:38
I like Fergus, I'd love to see him become something great, he lost everything too.
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#18
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:39
^ yeah and I was like ??? ferelden hair is irrelevant THIS IS ORLAIS where our hair has BIRDS in it slaps
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#19
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:41
In fact, Fergus is my biggest hope for this, it would be fantastic to see the Couslands make a come back like that!
#20
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:43
If it's true that Anora is the barren one, then it's possible that Calien has some bastards running around, himself.
#21
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 08:54
I think Fergus as a Cousland would still have a better claim than the potential illegitimate child of Cailan,unless that illegitimate child has the support of a powerful noble.
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#22
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 09:17
Possibilities for an heir:
Alistair's other brother: If Alistair's story about who his mother is is accurtate, then Maric's son by Fiona is still running around (personally I think Alistair is that person)
Alistair/Anora: Anora is rumoured to be infertile and Alistair as a Grey Warden makes it unlikely in any case
Warden/Anora: See above
Alistair/Warden: Two Grey Wardens make this super unlikely
Alistair's bastards: His attitude to sex and him being a Grey Warden make this not likely.
Maric Returns: Maric didn't die, but was instead kidnapped and experimented on by a Tevinter magister. The latest DA comic series ended with Maric's body being dead, but his disembodied spirit continuing to exist in the Fade. Usually that would be reason to write him off, but DAI has a lot of creatures from the Fade entering the world physically via the breach...
The OGB: If Alistair does the Dark Ritual with Morrigan, the OGB is his heir (although Morrigan probably has bigger plans for him than ruling Ferelden).
Deus Ex Machina: If the writers want their to be a naturally occuring Ferelden heir they can easily do so by saying 1) whichever couple is ruling Ferelden beat the odds when it came to having children, or 2) blood magic/deals with Fade spirits/Avernus' research/whatever mean someone who was thought not to be able to have kids now can.
Or for the funny route
Alistair married to a gray warden who still had zevran romanced when the game ended: Well, elf/humans hybrids are human so who would be able to tell?
#23
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 09:17
Potentially, but it's equally possible Fergus himself would be that noble. Bryce seemed content with the power he had, refusing the throne after Maric died. Fergus may follow in his father's example.
#24
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 09:24
Otherwise it will seem as beyond the Blight the Warden accomplished little in the long term.
I dunno... stopping a burgeoning Blight seems like a far reaching accomplishment to me. Think of all the millions of lives that were saved because it was stopped at that time, rather than destroying Ferelden and moving onto other nations.
#25
Posté 24 mai 2014 - 09:30
Potentially, but it's equally possible Fergus himself would be that noble. Bryce seemed content with the power he had, refusing the throne after Maric died. Fergus may follow in his father's example.
That would be an interesting outcome,personally I don't see Fergus as the type to start a Civil war in order to secure his claim to the throne.If a potential heir appears out of nowhere with solid proof that he/she is actually Cailan's illegitimate,I can see him refusing it.





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