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[Gervaise]

Didn't Fiona get cured of the taint?   That being the case, then clearly it is possible to overcome the effects of the joining.    Also Morrigan had not trouble conceiving from a Warden, so again there are ways around the effects of the joining.     If it is so important for a Therin to continue on the throne then I'd imagine magic could be employed to ensure it. 

 

However, so far as the Landsmeet were concerned, keeping a Therin on the throne did not seem that important to them.   They went with whoever the Warden nominated.   My Cousland noble always thought he was more entitled to rule than Alistair, particularly as the latter always stated he didn't want it.   If he failed to have any offspring then I imagine he would persuade Anora to nominate his nieces and nephews as heirs.   Fergus may have lost his first family but he would no doubt marry again and if you spare Nathaniel then he also saves Fergus' life at a future date.    The Civil War only came about because Eamon stirred up the other nobles to object to Loghain's regency.   Otherwise they would likely have accepted matters.   The most important thing to the people of Ferelden is staying free from Orlesian rule, not keeping a Therin on the throne.   If Cailan had lived and gone through with his idiotic plan to marry Celene, then that probably would have resulted in him being ousted in favour of Anora.

[Eveangaline]

Didn't Fiona get cured of the taint?   That being the case, then clearly it is possible to overcome the effects of the joining.    Also Morrigan had not trouble conceiving from a Warden, so again there are ways around the effects of the joining.     If it is so important for a Therin to continue on the throne then I'd imagine magic could be employed to ensure it.

A warden and non warden can have kids with slight problem because taint lowers fertility, so they can have kids but just are less likely, so Morrigan making a baby doesn't really mean anything.

However the writers have said that two wardens together cannot have a kid.

 

So alistiar + anora

Or alistiar single and can marry someone else later

 

might make a kid

 

alistair + warden

 

makes no kid

 

As for curing the taint, I guess it could happen, I haven't read the books but doesn't it take particular magic only one person knows?

[Todd23]

A warden and non warden can have kids with slight problem because taint lowers fertility, so they can have kids but just are less likely, so Morrigan making a baby doesn't really mean anything.
However the writers have said that two wardens together cannot have a kid.

So alistiar + anora
Or alistiar single and can marry someone else later

might make a kid

alistair + warden

makes no kid

As for curing the taint, I guess it could happen, I haven't read the books but doesn't it take particular magic only one person knows?

Do you have the source where its stated that two wardens can't have a child together? I'm inclined to believe it because I've seen a lot of people mention the same thing. Also you are kind of right in terms of Fiona. What happened in the book -

SPOILER ALERT
is that the architect or something was causing the wardens in Ferelden's taint to advance to the point where all of their calling seemed close at hand except for Duncan because he had stolen a dagger which seemed to be specially made to counter the architect's magic. The architect cast some kind of spell and Duncan did something to stop it with the dagger and the resulting explosion hit Fiona, afterwards every sign of the taint was gone.
SPOILER END

So it was a freak accident. I guess it is possible to recreate, but just going to Ferelden and getting rid of Alistair's taint doesn't seem to be possible as of now.

[Han Shot First]

I would think two Wardens on the throne would make the likelihood of there being an heir extremely small. Wardens have a low probablity of producing children even with people who don't have the taint. With another Warden I'd guess it probably isn't going to happen.

 

Alistair and Anora or the Warden and Anora are probably the best outcomes at least as far as an heir goes. That is of course assuming that Anora doesn't have fertility problems and that the lack of a previous heir was due to Cailan shooting blanks.

[Eveangaline]

Do you have the source where its stated that two wardens can't have a child together? I'm inclined to believe it because I've seen a lot of people mention the same thing. Also you are kind of right in terms of Fiona. What happened in the book -

SPOILER ALERT
is that the architect or something was causing the wardens in Ferelden's taint to advance to the point where all of their calling seemed close at hand except for Duncan because he had stolen a dagger which seemed to be specially made to counter the architect's magic. The architect cast some kind of spell and Duncan did something to stop it with the dagger and the resulting explosion hit Fiona, afterwards every sign of the taint was gone.
SPOILER END

So it was a freak accident. I guess it is possible to recreate, but just going to Ferelden and getting rid of Alistair's taint doesn't seem to be possible as of now.

 

I'm afraid all my links to the old forum where Gaider posted this redirect to the new forum instead of the old post. Sorry. You may be able to find it on the wiki though.

[Former_Fiend]

Here's the way I look at it; any character has the exact probability of conceiving a child as Bioware's writing team wants them to have. These aren't physical, flesh and blood individuals, they're words on a page. If the good people at bioware ever decide they truly want to do a story in which two wardens conceive a child together, that's a story they'll tell. They're creative enough to find a way to justify it. 

[KC_Prototype]

The OGB regardless of who the father is.

[Eveangaline]

The OGB regardless of who the father is.

What if it has no father because it doesn't exist.

[duckley]

I always thought conception between two wardens was unlikely but not impossible.

[DarthSliver]

The OGB regardless of who the father is.

 

OGB would be the heir in my playthrough too if through Headcannon my Warden wasn't able to beat the odds with Alistar on conceiving a child. 

 

You see this fertility issue is why I had Alistar do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan jk lol.  

[KC_Prototype]

OGB would be the heir in my playthrough too if through Headcannon my Warden wasn't able to beat the odds with Alistar on conceiving a child. 

 

You see this fertility issue is why I had Alistar do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan jk lol.  

Yeah and he'll have a reign of terror....mwaahhahhhahahahaha! Jk, but he could have pretty successful reign if brought up right.

[KC_Prototype]

I believe female Cousland Warden and Alistair could and would work just like the male Cousland Warden and Anora would work.

[KC_Prototype]

What if it has no father because it doesn't exist.

The OGB will always have a father...Always...ALWAYS!!! If not the Warden or Alistair, then some Orlesian warden.

[Todd23]

What if it has no father because it doesn't exist.

... Especially in that case. It'd blow our minds.

[Eveangaline]

The OGB will always have a father...Always...ALWAYS!!! If not the Warden or Alistair, then some Orlesian warden.

 

But......but the orlesian wardens weren't there yet when the archdemon died