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[ahnariprellik]

Does anyone think the Citadel DLC an Shepard's clone was a missed opportunity to leave the next game open to fix the endings? I mean since the clone essentially kills himself we cant simply continue as Shepard with all our choices from the previous game anymore but if say the clone had just jump out of the normandy and landed somewhere and disappeared it would have been an opportunity for us to play as him in ME4 still with choices carrying over after real Shepard's death. 

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Does anyone think the Citadel DLC an Shepard's clone was a missed opportunity to leave the next game open to fix the endings? I mean since the clone essentially kills himself we cant simply continue as Shepard with all our choices from the previous game anymore but if say the clone had just jump out of the normandy and landed somewhere and disappeared it would have been an opportunity for us to play as him in ME4 still with choices carrying over after real Shepard's death. 

 

If it was an option to play as a clone, I'm pretty sure that Massively would bust a nut big enough to make another rift like the one on Klendagon.

[dreamgazer]

Pretty sure Montreal is looking forward to not having to deal with all those previous choices. They were already getting minimized in ME2, after all.

[Big Bad]

Pretty sure Montreal is looking forward to not having to deal with all those previous choices. They were already getting minimized in ME2, after all.

 

Yes, please.  For the sake of the story, the next game needs to start with as clean a slate as possible. 

[ahnariprellik]

Theyre still telling us to hold onto our saves though. For what? If its a direct sequel there is no point cause our choices were invalidated by the ending. A prequel would also make previous saves useless. Also there is a very plausible rumor that ME trilogy will release on x1 and ps4. Why? Obviously to make it easier for saves and choices to transfer over to ME4. Also more money.

[wolfhowwl]

If the next game is a sequel, the new developers would likely canonize/retcon what they need to for a foundation for the new game and then move on with their own story.

 

I doubt BioWare Montreal wants to spend THEIR game dealing with someone else's mess.

[ahnariprellik]

There is a reason we are supposed to hold on to our saves and that the original games may get a rerelease on next gen.This reason had not yet been revealed to us though.The trilogy edition was already a rerelease of the series anyway so if the only reason for them doing so was to give more people a chance to play seems stupid to me because anyone who wants to play ME would have by now and that would be redundant seeing as they are already working on backwards compatibility for X360 thus negating a need for a remake of the remake. The only possible valid reason is to make it easier for saves and choices to transfer over on next gen.

[dreamgazer]

We needed to hold onto our saves for the yet-announced Extended Cut, which was probably in the cards much longer than we were led to believe.

[ahnariprellik]

If the next game is a sequel, the new developers would likely canonize/retcon what they need to for a foundation for the new game and then move on with their own story.

 

I doubt BioWare Montreal wants to spend THEIR game dealing with someone else's mess.

Well if they viewed as a mess in the first place they may feel obligated to correct the mistakes of their predecessor and do right by the most avid fans of the franchise. Also I just dont see how it can continue beyond ME3 if the reapers were in fact truly defeated

[DeinonSlayer]

If the next game is a sequel, the new developers would likely canonize/retcon what they need to for a foundation for the new game and then move on with their own story.
 
I doubt BioWare Montreal wants to spend THEIR game dealing with someone else's mess.

Male/Spacer/SoleSurvivor/Soldier/Paragon/Liaramancer/Synthesizer it is, I guess.

[ahnariprellik]

We needed to hold onto our saves for the yet-announced Extended Cut, which was probably in the cards much longer than we were led to believe.

No, I mean since ME3 ending controversy ended and since ME4 was announced theyve told us to hold on to our saves. Why???

[dreamgazer]

Source?

[wolfhowwl]

BioWare has already handled cross-gen save imports with the cloud for Dragon Age 3.

 

If they were going to use an import for ME4, they wouldn't need to port the trilogy to do it. Any release of the trilogy on XB1/PS4 should be viewed as a cash-in instead of any sign that they're actually going to have any save continuation from the trilogy to the next game.

[cap and gown]

I believe the "hold on to your saves" line was related to the DLC.

[ahnariprellik]

I could swear I saw something in either IGN or Gameinformer in an ME4 preview where they said that even though ME4 may not feature Shepard at all it would still be a good idea to keep our saves.Ill see if I can find the source but not tonight. I will look it up tomorrow and post it here if I can find it.

[dreamgazer]

Mmk. Only time I've read the "hold onto your saves" comment was from Gamble shortly after the game's release.

[wolfhowwl]

Mmk. Only time I've read the "hold onto your saves" comment was from Gamble shortly after the game's release.

 

Yeah. That sounds right.

 

If anything they've been trying to manage expectations in the opposite direction for ME4 and have been stressing that Shepard is finished and there won't be a direct connection to the trilogy.

[ahnariprellik]

Found this article on IGN.com, Yanick Roy's comments in the last few paragraphs are contradictory but insightful. He doesnt outright say events and choices and will carry over but that the next game will take into account key choices and events from ME 1-3 and be affected by them. However, this is in direct contradiction to what was said in the first half of the article because if its a new team in the next mass effect with all new protagonist and squad but its effected by events from the first trilogy then that means it has to at least relate to Shepard and his story in someway since every major decision in ME 1-3 was made by Shepard anyway. So basically, they have no idea what is gonna be or how itll tie into the previous trilogy

 

http://www.ign.com/a...me-a-disservice

[dreamgazer]

I dunno, it sounds to me like they're going to jump ahead in time, chalk the Reaper War up to a vague victory, reference canon events, and go from there.

[ahnariprellik]

Yeah. That sounds right.

 

If anything they've been trying to manage expectations in the opposite direction for ME4 and have been stressing that Shepard is finished and there won't be a direct connection to the trilogy.

See my post above, it will tie into the original trilogy in some way. Though I dont see how though without directly referencing back to Shepard and the former squadmates in some way

[ahnariprellik]

I dunno, it sounds to me like they're going to jump ahead in time, chalk the Reaper War up to a vague victory, reference canon events, and go from there.

That's what I'm saying though. They make it sound like they wont allude to Shepard or any of the original cast at all. But in order to reference canon events and the Reaper War they would HAVE to reference and acknowledge Shepard's existence in the new ME because he spearheaded the Reaper War from the get go.

[dreamgazer]

Garrus, Tali, the Virmire fatality, most of the ME2 cast ... they could all feasibly be dead in ME3. Tough to reference them.

They can reference events, though, without listing names.

[wolfhowwl]

Found this article on IGN.com, Yanick Roy's comments in the last few paragraphs are contradictory but insightful. He doesnt outright say events and choices and will carry over but that the next game will take into account key choices and events from ME 1-3 and be affected by them. However, this is in direct contradiction to what was said in the first half of the article because if its a new team in the next mass effect with all new protagonist and squad but its effected by events from the first trilogy then that means it has to at least relate to Shepard and his story in someway since every major decision in ME 1-3 was made by Shepard anyway. So basically, they have no idea what is gonna be or how itll tie into the previous trilogy

 

http://www.ign.com/a...me-a-disservice

 

At this point in development they almost certainly have that locked down. They're just being smart and keeping their mouths shut.

 

That's what I'm saying though. They make it sound like they wont allude to Shepard or any of the original cast at all. But in order to reference canon events and the Reaper War they would HAVE to reference and acknowledge Shepard's existence in the new ME because he spearheaded the Reaper War from the get go.

 

Expect something minor like "Commander Shepard led the fight against the Reapers and s/he died destroying them" and references to things that always happen like "the now-defunct human terrorist organization Cerberus was destroyed by the Alliance..."

[ImaginaryMatter]

If this forum is good at one thing it's beating dead horses.

[AlanC9]

If they really wanted to give us more Shepard, wouldn't it be easier to just set the game after Destroy rather than futz around with a clone?