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[coldwetn0se]

^LOL, Fandango! This is a funny little image.

I'm with Dutchess on these spoiler tags, though I use them often (in this and many other threads).

Anyway, Dutchess made the exact points I was originally going to express, but I'm late to the party. As for Brona:

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I too believe she is on her way out...of the mortal realm. It may very well be, that she even died or is literally on her last breaths, when we see her in that alcove. If you notice, she goes quite still right before the camera cuts away. Also, she is right near the theatre where...Dun, dun, dun! Caliban works/lives. Choice pickings for the creature, and oh-so convenient. *nods, finger to nose*.

This last episode (5), was wonderfully done. My god Eva Green did a fantastic job. Great to get started on some more origin material. Looking forward to touching on Ethan, and yes....I want to see that damn painting. LOL!

So when do we get Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde? Or Sweeny Todd?

[coldwetn0se]

I have to admit, I am fully expecting some version of Jekyll/Hyde, since it fits the time period (circa 1886), and it has a great cross-over appeal. It speaks so much to the good and evil in humankind, but has a touch of mystery, science, and supernatural, all wrapped up together. The famous "ingredient" was never discovered in the original book, so one could have a lot of fun with this.

Of course, I still could be completely off, for them using that storyline, but I keep my fingers, toes and eyes crossed. Just think it could be a romp!

[coldwetn0se]

Aye, he (or should that be they) would appear to be a great fit for the series. Fingers firmly crossed.

EDIT: What famous fictitious females could we see transitioning to the show? I'm drawing a complete blank.

Good question!

Hmmm....doing some digging, through a few old books, the internet and my dusty brain....(this list doesn't have fictional characters; sorry for that )

1) Nellie Bly - She was somewhat of a female activist (and American). BUT! There could be a fun fictional connection they could make with her, even in late 1880's England. She took on the challenge that Jules Verne had tossed out, about going around the world in 80 days. She did it in 72. Even had some sort of game and trading cards with her name on them. The connection to "exploration", through Sir Malcom (and to Jules Verne), could make for some interesting storytelling.

2) Marie Curie - again, not so much fantasy/supernatural, but her work in the sciences might make for some intriguing fodder. We have Victor and Van Helsing (who work in the sciences), and if Jekyll ever appears, that would be three.

3)Florence Cook - Spiritualist. I admit, I cannot remember the name of the medium that was used in Episode 2, but I don't "think" it was her. Ms. Cook was more dramatic, and in fact, did things that were more akin to what Vanessa ended up doing in the "Séance" episode.

Granted, these are all real life people, but many could be used as inspiration for fictional counterparts. Touching on what the real women they represent, did. And of course, connecting them to the core group through some of the means I have mentioned. Bah! I am sure there are many more we could look at/examine, but my head is stuffy with a cold, and I'm a bit stupid right now. LOL!

[coldwetn0se]

What a wonderful post coldwetn0se! Does it make me a bad person that my (12 year old) mind immediately went to Vampirella, cheerleader Buffy and Salma Hayek from Dusk Till Dawn? Nobody answer that!

I definitely don't knock any of those kick ass (and somewhat blood thirsty) ladies!

[Laamaa]

Just started this, not too convinced yet... Hoping it will get better

[coldwetn0se]

Okay, so I have a weird nit to pick, from Episode 4. I doubt it needs spoiler tags, so I will leave them off. (a fair warning, that this is entirely an unnecessary nitpick over a prop... lol!!)

For those that have seen that episode, they will recall the preparation and consuming of Absinthe. Absinthe is a favorite of mine, and its history is a tad exaggerated, and/or misunderstood. The "green" coloring, of the, shall we say, "the good stuff", is much more yellow/grassy in color. Generally derived from the botanicals used in the distilling process. The cheaper products, often got their "vivid" green from copper. Not a practice used today, of course. Those that are made nowadays, that have the venomous coloring, are just generally added dyes. The psychotropic effects that were sometimes described came from repeated drinking of a very high proof alcohol (which absinthe is), and the copper which can cause deterioration in the brain. Wormwood, which is one botanical used in absinthe, can have some rather nasty effects on people, but the amount used in making absinthe is so minute, it is doubtful to have ever had an effect (good, bad, otherwise)

The "looshing" that you see in that scene (the act of dripping water over either ice or sugar cube), causes the liquor to become milky. Absinthe is very similar in style to both Pernod (who was considered the original maker of Absinthe), and Ouzo. Both (along with absinthe) use anise as the main flavoring ingredient. All of them will turn somewhat milky when water is added. (as an aside; good absinthe is really quite smooth, and flavorful enough without the added sugar. When I loosh, I prefer ice instead. Goes really well with lamb dishes, and hard meats and cheeses. yum!)

So you can guess my nitpick here (and it really is irrelevant...LOL!) is that in the scene, the absinthe is vivid green (the cheap stuff), and it doesn't turn milky at all during the looshing process. I would have expected Dorian to spring for "the good stuff". LOL!

I think I may be bored right now.....sorry for the unnecessary essay.

[Alan Rickman]

Nothing that causes hangovers like absinthe does should be allowed to exist. It's like someone managed to get pure evil in a bottle.

[metatheurgist]

Okay, so I have a weird nit to pick, from Episode 4. I doubt it needs spoiler tags, so I will leave them off. (a fair warning, that this is entirely an unnecessary nitpick over a prop... lol!!)

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I think I may be bored right now.....sorry for the unnecessary essay.

They don't actually use the real thing on set. Too many temptations for one and you still want your actors coherent after a few takes. There's this interesting page that details all the substitutes they use for various real life products somewhere (sorry too lazy to search for it now).

[coldwetn0se]

They don't actually use the real thing on set. Too many temptations for one and you still want your actors coherent after a few takes. There's this interesting page that details all the substitutes they use for various real life products somewhere (sorry too lazy to search for it now).

LOL.... I made the remark about it being a "prop".

They have used props for absinthe and Pernod, and were able to create the microemulsions, in other films (example is the movie Gotcha! with Anthony Edwards). Anyway, it matters not, since this was me just yammering, and poking fun at Dorian the character, for not buying the good stuff (btw, the good stuff is based on coloring more than the microemulsions or "Ouzo effect").

As for hangovers, I have never had any hangover effects from specifically drinking Absinthe. The variety I have purchased (Jade being my favorite), is really good with food. Not over indulging, and consuming water takes care of any ill effects I might experience from drinking it or other alcoholic beverages.

[Laamaa]

Where are you up to Laamaa?
 

 

Seen 3 eps so far

[Alan Rickman]

Not over indulging

 

You don't have any idea what an absurd concept that is to a Finn like myself.

[coldwetn0se]

You don't have any idea what an absurd concept that is to a Finn like myself.

LOL! Fair enough. My 79 year old Swedish father, will gladly join you under the table though.
 

Ok, we totally need a Penny Dreadful drinking game.

Take a shot every time Sembene actually says something.
Take a shot every time Caliban threatens to kill Victor.
Crack open a bottle of champagne when Dorian is brutally killed in a bizarre gramophone related accident.

Anymore for anymore?

Okay...this needs to be a thing. (even though I just got finished talking about not over-indulging. hehe!)

Perhaps, we need to pace ourselves with only certain types of libations. For example, Caliban threating Victor, you know will be a fairly common occurrence...at least for a while. So maybe we make that a swig of beer/cider/mead or gulp of wine (depending on your tastes and preferences.

However, for Sembene that needs something a bit stronger. Let's face it, those moments are a few and far between. LOL! Maybe your favorite whiskey/rye/scotch/akvivt (for those rascally Scandinavians)/absinthe/ouzo/grappa/vodka/gin/sake/tequila/rum. Feel free to add more to the list.

For Dorian, the unfortunate thing is, we know how he has to die. But we can keep the Champagne/Prosecco/Sparkling wine chilling, for that day.

Hmmm.....Maybe we should add for every time Vanessa becomes "possessed"? Nah, to easy. Every time Malcom says "Mina"? Anytime we see an arse shot of Ethan/Brona/Dorian.....ah hell, any backside shots. Okay, that one might have us slurring within the first twenty minutes of the show.

[Alan Rickman]

Every time Timothy Dalton's voice and mannerisms remind me of Patrick Stewart.

 

I would be dead within 10 minutes.

[SwobyJ]

Love this show. Love the characters. Love everything.

[felipejiraya]

I'm starting to feel sorry for Frankenstein.

 

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Also.

 

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Well...crap.

[metatheurgist]

Poor Miss Ives.

[Dutchess]

I really loved episode 6. Very exciting. Oh, and I like Dorian now.