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[ClydeInTheShell]

The hate is real.

Speaking of which...

Argent, what'd you mean by "girl gun" then?

[TheShadyEngineer]

I spam Stasis on the Volus... Carnifex headshots babby

 

Does this make me bad?

I completely forgot that Voldept had Stasis. Actually, scratch that, I forgot that the Voldept exists  . And considering that the Voldept doesn't have much to offer other than Stasis and shield boost... Yer good  . 

 

Flamer and Recon Mine for being basically impossible to see through.  Stasis for removing tracking and hit detection from melee.  It isn't as if the particular player using Stasis chooses to use the one that has irritating properties.  It always has them because of the way it was made.

I was with you until that bit. Stasis is comparable to flamer and recon mine explosion spam? Come on...

[Argent Xero]

The hate is real.
Speaking of which...

Argent, what'd you mean by "girl gun" then?

"Girl gun" like the Carnifex or something. My Asari Vanguard likes a big gun like the Claymore.

Just charge right into the group and go to work. She can take the punishment because I skip Lift Grenades for Full Fitness.

[LemurFromTheId]

Claymore actually isn't particularly big. Most assault rifles for example are much bigger.

[ClydeInTheShell]

"Girl gun" like the Carnifex or something. My Asari Vanguard likes a big gun like the Claymore.
Just charge right into the group and go to work. She can take the punishment because I skip Lift Grenades for Full Fitness.

  
Spoken like a true n00b.

The Carnifex is a beast.

Claymore actually isn't particularly big. Most assault rifles for example are much bigger.

Raider is better anyway.

[capn233]

I'm sorry, but if your the kind of person that gets annoyed by stasis

 

Stasis has some annoying properties.

I guess if you are the kind of person that can't understand that...

 

I just wanna know why Capn is trying to heavy melee things when this game is obviously all about GUNS GUNS GUNS!!

 

Oh good megabeast chimes in.

 

I want to know why he's Heavy Meleeing things in Stasis.

 

I explicitly stated that it is an issue when someone casts it while you are in the middle of a melee.  Like with Krogan backhand.

 

I completely forgot that Voldept had Stasis. Actually, scratch that, I forgot that the Voldept exists  . And considering that the Voldept doesn't have much to offer other than Stasis and shield boost... Yer good  . 

 

I was with you until that bit. Stasis is comparable to flamer and recon mine explosion spam? Come on...

 

It isn't.  It has some irritating properties that were included by Bioware that are not player dependent.

[me0120]

Raider is better anyway.

You know where this leads...

1v1 me babby.

[Argent Xero]

 
I explicitly stated that it is an issue when someone casts it while you are in the middle of a melee.  Like with Krogan backhand.
 

I don't have an issue with it. My melee was supposed to disable the mook I was meleeing. They simply beat me too it.

Think of it as someone killing what you're about to melee.

Oh wait that turns into whining about kill stealing, now doesn't it?

[ClydeInTheShell]

You know where this leads...
1v1 me babby.

My Acolyte sidearm is ready.

[me0120]

My Acolyte sidearm is ready.

 

 

Does that mean you are playing off-host?!

 

You should get on so we can get some Raider vs Claymore games in today. 

[capn233]

I don't have an issue with it. My melee was supposed to disable the mook I was meleeing. They simply beat me too it.

Think of it as someone killing what you're about to melee.

Oh wait that turns into whining about kill stealing, now doesn't it?

 

 

The stasis mafia strikes again.

[LemurFromTheId]

I don't have an issue with it. My melee was supposed to disable the mook I was meleeing. They simply beat me too it.

Think of it as someone killing what you're about to melee.

Oh wait that turns into whining about kill stealing, now doesn't it?

 

You've got it backwards. Melee is supposed to kill, Stasis is there to disable. Not a good idea to "think of it as someone killing what you're about to melee", you get shot in the back that way.

[TheNightSlasher]

If someone shoots/uses a power on an enemy they know I am about to melee, it really pisses me off. This is my main reason for hating javelin GIs and such in PUGs. They always tend to snipe the enemy closest to me or the one I am engaging.

[Velanna Frost]

Stasis has some annoying properties.

I guess if you are the kind of person that can't understand that...

 

Wow, did you even read my post? Yes Stasis can, in certain circumstances, cause problems, but the same can be said for almost everything else in this game. To be honest if someone using it in the half second window in which you're performing a heavy melee is the only situation you can come up with where it causes problems then I'd say that's pretty damned good compared to a lot of other things in this game.

 

Situations where stasis use is a hindrance are comparatively very rare and are certainly outweighed by the benefits it will provide for you and the team as a whole and yet you want to ignore the hundreds, if not thousands of times it has benefited you and focus on a handful of bad moments instead, which to me is just ridiculous.

[Argent Xero]

You've got it backwards. Melee is supposed to kill, Stasis is there to disable. Not a good idea to "think of it as someone killing what you're about to melee", you get shot in the back that way.

Disable = kill, stagger, knock down, prevent from moving.

A target effectively Stasis'd might as well be dead already.

There's no reason to whine about such things, because then you would be whining about someone stealing your melee kill.

[PoetryAvenger]

I like Stasis because the bubble is pretty.

Asari make the best space-bubbles.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

if someone uses stasis on an enemy i'm about to heavy melee, i'll...................just go find another enemy to heavy melee. 

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

So what exactly happened here

[capn233]

So what exactly happened here

 

Basically I made a comment disparaging both the AV types of builds and the stasis faction got bent out of shape.  Oddly nobody from the Lift Grenade camp seemed to mind.

 

I of course agree with Aedelon and TNS.  I would disagree with the notion that Stasis is remotely similar to basically "whenever anyone does anything to a target."  Staggering a target with a projectile power when you are trying to shoot it?  Not the same, and if you are heads up you even see the projectile flying to the target.  And if someone is warping they are at least setting up a good combo, not the world's weakest BE.
 

It also is not the same as using something like Warp against the target when I have already started a heavy melee.  Those don't prevent you from connecting.  This is a design oddity of Stasis that makes it unique to nearly every other power.

 

Sure maybe you can make an argument that it is similar to a GI Jav shooting everything while you try to melee.  The difference is at least he is killing the target.

[ThatOddGuy]

I use assguard for power damage, and Drell for weapon damage (well, rank 5 powers ). Asari has stasis, but Drell has no pull.

I always try and differentiate my kits as much as possible.

[xBuho]

Basically I made a comment disparaging both the AV types of builds and the stasis faction got bent out of shape.  Oddly nobody from the Lift Grenade camp seemed to mind.

 

I of course agree with Aedelon and TNS.  I would disagree with the notion that Stasis is remotely similar to basically "whenever anyone does anything to a target."  Staggering a target with a projectile power when you are trying to shoot it?  Not the same, and if you are heads up you even see the projectile flying to the target.  And if someone is warping they are at least setting up a good combo, not the world's weakest BE.
 

It also is not the same as using something like Warp against the target when I have already started a heavy melee.  Those don't prevent you from connecting.  This is a design oddity of Stasis that makes it unique to nearly every other power.

 

Sure maybe you can make an argument that it is similar to a GI Jav shooting everything while you try to melee.  The difference is at least he is killing the target.

I agree with Capn, and also everyone arguing against Capn is being WAAAAYYY too defensive of Stasis   I agree with Capn that it's incredibly frustrating when i see a team mate with stasis on the team when i'm playing a class that makes use of melee, (i.e. half of the characters i play) because invariably during the match, the target on the receiving end of my HM is going to get put in stasis, and why? It's not as if the target who's about to get my fist through is skull is a huge threat to well anyone, it's because useless pugs use stasis the same way they use volus' shield boost, because it makes them feel useful and it let's them excuse away their score on the premise of them being a support class. And no, not EVERY body just spams stasis, but enough of them do, and often enough for Capn's complaint to be a valid one, and one i share. I personally find team mates with stasis more annoying than useful, why does the idea of that make you all so defensive?

[megabeast37215]

I honestly don't see Stasis get used very often on Xbox.. it's quite rare in my experience.

[coldflame]

"Assguard... where have you been all my life? <3"

 

Lol, to the title of this thread... I approve OP...

[Deerber]

So what exactly happened here

No clue, but the answer is always claymore.

[Argent Xero]

I agree with Capn, and also everyone arguing against Capn is being WAAAAYYY too defensive of Stasis   I agree with Capn that it's incredibly frustrating when i see a team mate with stasis on the team when i'm playing a class that makes use of melee, (i.e. half of the characters i play) because invariably during the match, the target on the receiving end of my HM is going to get put in stasis, and why? It's not as if the target who's about to get my fist through is skull is a huge threat to well anyone, it's because useless pugs use stasis the same way they use volus' shield boost, because it makes them feel useful and it let's them excuse away their score on the premise of them being a support class. And no, not EVERY body just spams stasis, but enough of them do, and often enough for Capn's complaint to be a valid one, and one i share. I personally find team mates with stasis more annoying than useful, why does the idea of that make you all so defensive?

Because we actually respect pugs as people.

You're being waaaay too sensitive and concerned about what other people do. If they're helping, or trying to help why the hell would you argue about something so petty? What the hell is wrong with you guys?