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#26
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Considering the romance animations for DAO, and the Isabela/FemHawke scene in DA2(love that romance, but femhawke looks like she should topple over while carrying her).

 

Besides, presumably they're already animating scenes with whatever human/elven romance options are in the game with the qunari inquisitor. Would it really take that much effort to do the same for Iron Bull?

 

Hell, there are a dozen ways to shoot the scene where the size of the participants doesn't really matter.

 

They just won't do it and one of the reasons will likely be because of the backlash from the DA2 love scenes.

 

  I am just calling it now...Iron Bull will likely be unromanceable or limited to Qunaris.

 

If there is an attempt to romance him buy any other race...you are going to get dialogue like..."Sorry but you need horns to ride this bull."

 

 

The Isabela/femHawke romance scene is the SAME cinemtatic for the m/Isabela version.     And frankly as much as I enjoyed my ISABELA/FemHawke...it would have been nice if there had been a different scene for the F/F version



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Hopefully not.



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They just won't do it and one of the reasons will likely be because of the backlash from the DA2 love scenes.

 

  I am just calling it now...Iron Bull will likely be unromanceable or limited to Qunaris.

 

If there is an attempt to romance him buy any other race...you are going to get dialogue like..."Sorry but you need horns to ride this bull."

 

 

The Isabela/femHawke romance scene is the SAME cinemtatic for the m/Isabela version.     And frankly as much as I enjoyed my ISABELA/FemHawke...it would have been nice if there had been a different scene for the F/F version

 

For what it's worth, I agree that he won't be romanceable. I just think that your logic boils down to excusing laziness on Bioware's part. 

 

If, at any point in the development, he was a serious consideration for a romantic option, "it would be too hard to animate" isn't a valid reason to scrap that. You simply change the blocking of the scene so that character size doesn't factor into it, even if that means relegating it to a fade to black scene.



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I have a hard time believing the animation difficulty plays a role in if a character is a romance option or not. I think the Tali and Garrus cliques prove that you don't need characters grinding on eachother to have a fulfilling romance plot. And in that case, the animations required would be no more difficult than standard animations. And also on a factor of weirdness, both Tali and Garrus rank a few notches higher than Iron Bull, who is really just a beefcake with horns.



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I think Iron Bull makes sense as a qunari-only romance. And I think they've said gender won't be the only thing to gate romances, so I'm hoping race does for some companions as well. 

 

I base this off of the banter between Morrigan and Sten in DA:O

 



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I am doomed to forever repeat that Sten was trolling Morrigan to get her to leave him alone.


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I think part of my issue on this is that I've never seen anyone who favors race gating romances ask for an elf LI who only romances elves, or a human LI who only romances humans. It's always dwarves and qunari.



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I think part of my issue on this is that I've never seen anyone who favors race gating romances ask for an elf LI who only romances elves, or a human LI who only romances humans. It's always dwarves and qunari.

 

I wouldn't have a problem with this. Or a human who only romances humans. I like gating, it makes my Inquisitor's quest to find love more interesting, and gives me more inspiration for future playthroughs. 



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I wouldn't have a problem with this. Or a human who only romances humans. I like gating, it makes my Inquisitor's quest to find love more interesting, and gives me more inspiration for future playthroughs. 

 

I appreciate that you feel that way, but I don't feel that way at all. To me, it just pigeon holes my character with a lack of options. 


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I wouldn't mind some gating, as long as they compensate by making sure no PC has only a single option. But I'd like some gating that isn't just elf on elf, or dwarf on dwarf, I'd prefer something like humans or qunari (cause elves are too fragile, lol :) or an elf who only likes elves and humans. As long as the majority of companions aren't gated by race it should be fine.



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To me, gating doesn't add to the experience at all. It doesn't make the romance feel deeper or special. And it definitely doesn't make the characters seem more "defined" or "realistic". It's just an arbitrary limit to my choices and options as a player, and that's never a good thing.

 

Speaking strictly for myself, of course.



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To me, gating doesn't add to the experience at all. It doesn't make the romance feel deeper or special. And it definitely doesn't make the characters seem more "defined" or "realistic". It's just an arbitrary limit to my choices and options as a player, and that's never a good thing.

 

Speaking strictly for myself, of course.

It is realistic for people to have preferences. That's why white people marry white people more often than other ethnicities, and ditto for every other ethnicity. Whether that is 'good' or not is not really relevant, it simply is. If there were actually different sentient races (rather than just minor genetic differences among ethnicities) then you can bet people (of all these races) would have preferences as well, most of which would be prefer their own race.

 

I can see how some people wouldn't like it just because it does reduce the possibilities for the PC. But for myself I play 5 or 6 games (DAO I did 8 and on my 9th now, spread out over the years the games been out so its not a binge 9 DAO runs lol, and I did 3 full DA2 runs and 2 halfways), so I never really miss content that I don't want to miss (except for some easter eggs, but that's what youtubes for). So I'm fine with or without gating, but I understand why you don't want it.

 

Love your sig by the way :)



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It is realistic for people to have preferences. That's why white people marry white people more often than other ethnicities, and ditto for every other ethnicity. Whether that is 'good' or not is not really relevant, it simply is. If there were actually different sentient races (rather than just minor genetic differences among ethnicities) then you can bet people (of all these races) would have preferences as well, most of which would be prefer their own race.

 

I can see how some people wouldn't like it just because it does reduce the possibilities for the PC. But for myself I play 5 or 6 games (DAO I did 8 and on my 9th now, spread out over the years the games been out so its not a binge 9 DAO runs lol, and I did 3 full DA2 runs and 2 halfways), so I never really miss content that I don't want to miss (except for some easter eggs, but that's what youtubes for). So I'm fine with or without gating, but I understand why you don't want it.

 

Love your sig by the way :)

 

A person's preferences aren't part of their character, though. Unless they're the result or expression of actual bigotry, they don't factor into a person's beliefs, behavior, or values. Zevran and Isabela are promiscuous; that's part of their character. They'd be promiscuous regardless of their orientation. Morrigan's a conniving ******(love her, but she is), and she'd be a conniving ****** regardless of her orientation.

 

A person's preferences are the entirely arbitrary result of the way their hormones flow. So unless the addition of preferences is the explicitly part of a certain racism on the character's part, it does nothing to enhance that character beyond giving them a random quirk.

 

I'd also point out that those preferences don't always equate to liking what's similar. I'm good friends with a white woman who only dates black men(she's less picky about the women she dates). So where's the human/elven/dwarven companion who's only interested in qunari because they find them exotic? Where's the character who isn't interested in the PC because the PC's fit and they prefer their lovers on the chunky side? Where's the LI who's only interested in mages because they can do that thing with the lightning? Why do these preferences always have to be in favor of "I don't like anyone who's different than me?"  

 

The fact is that there is a vast array of preferences that make up the spectrum of sexuality. To even begin to give a realistic reflection of that would require far more LI's than we've ever had total party members. So any preferences given with such a small group aren't realistic, they're just random. They don't enhance the experience, they limit it. 

 

Also, thank's about the sig; came up with it myself.


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