I like Lancer on caster class, while casting powers the gun cools itself, you just need to find the pace.
And yes, the Lancer has better dps than CSMG, the recoil is controllable if you fire in bursts, on Turians the kick is even more negligible.
Again, Lancer on Fury is super fun.
I like Lancer on caster class, while casting powers the gun cools itself, you just need to find the pace.
And yes, the Lancer has better dps than CSMG, the recoil is controllable if you fire in bursts, on Turians the kick is even more negligible.
Again, Lancer on Fury is super fun.
The option of a power mod on the CSMG is pretty handy for a caster class
Burst fire? Lolwut? Does anyone actually burst fire any of these guns? I lay on the trigger until the enemy is dead or its time to cast a power.. the only guns I burst fire are the guns that make me like the Argus and Valkyrie.
Or the Vindicator if anyone uses that
Or the Vindicator if anyone uses that
I like the Vindicator...
Disthey never should have abandoned the heat mechanic from Mass Effect 1.
What you like and what is better are not the same thing. The Harrier owns the Lancer in the DPS and accuracy departments. If it wasn't for challenges, I don't think I'd ever use the Lancer. It really.. kinda sucks.
Your ignorance is overwhelming.
Lancer >= Harrier. On platinum at least.
If you can't hold your right thumbstick down to compensate for the Lancer's recoil.... well, you suck. (All UR ARs are Platinum viable, just L2P).
Your ignorance is overwhelming.
Lancer >= Harrier. On platinum at least.
If you can't hold your right thumbstick down to compensate for the Lancer's recoil.... well, you suck. (All UR ARs are Platinum viable, just L2P).
He mentioned accuracy, not recoil.
and he's right. The Harrier is a superior weapon to the Lancer.
All guns are Platinum viable. That doesn't negate the fact that some are just better than others.
He mentioned accuracy, not recoil.
and he's right. The Harrier is a superior weapon to the Lancer.
All guns are Platinum viable. That doesn't negate the fact that some are just better than others.
I don't understand the gripe with the Lancer's accuracy.... Is it perfect? Absolutely not... Can I land all of the shots from it consistently? Yes.. and I have lolConsole aim.
Once you figure out a gun (In ME3) inside and out, you understand all of it's strengths and weaknesses. I have no issues with the Lancer's accuracy and recoil, I can do better with the Lancer than the Harrier on a consistent basis. This is coming from someone who has played since the demo, and I've used the Harrier a lot more than the Lancer.
By the way, the Harrier is phenomenal. Sustained DPS vs. Burst DPS is what comes into question here... and when you roll U/U/P for the majority, ammo can be a problem.
I know I'm coming off like a complete p.rick, but in reality here; if you know how to use either of these weapons, you can rock any faction on any difficulty. They're both great.
I don't understand the gripe with the Lancer's accuracy.... Is it perfect? Absolutely not... Can I land all of the shots from it consistently? Yes.. and I have lolConsole aim.
Once you figure out a gun (In ME3) inside and out, you understand all of it's strengths and weaknesses. I have no issues with the Lancer's accuracy and recoil, I can do better with the Lancer than the Harrier on a consistent basis. This is coming from someone who has played since the demo, and I've used the Harrier a lot more than the Lancer.
By the way, the Harrier is phenomenal. Sustained DPS vs. Burst DPS is what comes into question here... and when you roll U/U/P for the majority, ammo can be a problem.
I know I'm coming off like a complete p.rick, but in reality here; if you know how to use either of these weapons, you can rock any faction on any difficulty. They're both great.
I can get a good hit rate with the Lancer even from a distance. That doesn't change that the Harrier is still more accurate which means more hits or more headshots.
The heat based weapons also tend to have lower sustained DPS because their recharge time is longer than any reload in the game, even if you don't overheat the weapon.
I am aware of how to use both of those weapons and if you look at my first post in this thread you'll even notice the very first thing I said was "I like the Lancer more than the Harrier".
Both weapons are great, the Harrier is just a bit better. You also generally shouldn't have ammo issues unless you're playing a map with troll ammo boxes like Condor(that's a bit too situational though to be making claims based off of it).
The option of a power mod on the CSMG is pretty handy for a caster class
Well, I like the power mod on CSMG too, but that'll cost a slot, my go-to loadout for CSMG is always Mag and HV barrel, as well as warp/incindiary ammo, power mod will force me to replace at least one of those.
Burst fire? Lolwut? Does anyone actually burst fire any of these guns? I lay on the trigger until the enemy is dead or its time to cast a power.. the only guns I burst fire are the guns that make me like the Argus and Valkyrie.
Why not? I even burst-fire my Harrier for ammo conservation, if you hold on the trigger you'll at least waste 4-5 bullets 
I don't understand the gripe with the Lancer's accuracy.... Is it perfect? Absolutely not... Can I land all of the shots from it consistently? Yes.. and I have lolConsole aim.
Once you figure out a gun (In ME3) inside and out, you understand all of it's strengths and weaknesses. I have no issues with the Lancer's accuracy and recoil, I can do better with the Lancer than the Harrier on a consistent basis. This is coming from someone who has played since the demo, and I've used the Harrier a lot more than the Lancer.
By the way, the Harrier is phenomenal. Sustained DPS vs. Burst DPS is what comes into question here... and when you roll U/U/P for the majority, ammo can be a problem.
I know I'm coming off like a complete p.rick, but in reality here; if you know how to use either of these weapons, you can rock any faction on any difficulty. They're both great.
You havent said anything that even remotely sounds like you coming off as a p.rick. We all have our preferences
for different weapons. I have changed my mind about several weapons and prefer some weapons over others on various kits regardless of the fact that I might get higher DPS with an alternative gun. Ease of use, mod preference, ammo application build etc all come into play
Well, I like the power mod on CSMG too, but that'll cost a slot, my go-to loadout for CSMG is always Mag and HV barrel, as well as warp/incindiary ammo, power mod will force me to replace at least one of those.
Thats also how I equip the CSMG . Which raises another consideration for casters .
The AR HV mod adds weight on the Lancer
The heat based weapons also tend to have lower sustained DPS because their recharge time is longer than any reload in the game, even if you don't overheat the weapon.
Lancor, such deeps. Phenomenal sustained deeps of 500 which poorly respond to RoF bonuses. Such many, wow.
And a lot of bosses don't belong to one-clip territory, even on GI. Thus single clip dps (which isn't remarkable as well, around 800 afaik) goes to the trash can.
With such parameters it might been able to compete w Sabre/Valk if accuracy/recoil stats were more appealing.
500 Sustained DPS...? Do you have a Lancer -3?
500 Sustained DPS...? Do you have a Lancer -3?
That's the sustained base DPS of Lancer X, i.e. without any damage bonuses from skills, gear, ammo etc.
Thats also how I equip the CSMG . Which raises another consideration for casters .
The AR HV mod adds weight on the Lancer
Yeah that's right, the CSMG has a big advantage by its weight, especially when you equip 2 weapons.
When i don't need +200% CD rate, I tend to use the Lancer tho, +120% CDR is still okay for lots of chars.
When I pugged Plat recently with my Harrier Quarian Marksman, I ended up landing in a game in progress on freakin' Condor, and I was out of Thermal Clips in a hurry.
I prefer the Lancer on Condor
I landed in a game on Condor over the weekend where all of my teammates were using the Harrier. The cries of "Need clips!" and "Need ammo!" were pretty much continuous
I'm actually quite surprised at all the support for the Lancer. I spent AGES using it and trying to find a reason to KEEP using it. And in the end I came to the conclusion that the only thing going for it is that it is fun to use. But in terms of pure killing power? Megabeast pretty much summed it up - there is no reason whatsoever to take a Lancer if you have a Harrier or CSMG.
There are only TWO areas that Lancer > Harrier:
1) On Platinum because of ammo, but then CSMG trumps Lancer on Plat.
2) It's hipster to take a Lancer over the Harrier because the latter is considered a noob weapon because it is so OP. But really, a Harrier will shred a target to pieces before a Lancer even gets going.
to be honest, i don't really use the harrier that much. don't know why. i tend to use the lancer more but even then i only use on a few classes/characters.
personally i like the lancer better than the harrier but that's just me.
That gun is X almost a year. Still not impressed dven a bit.500 Sustained DPS...? Do you have a Lancer -3?
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