Humans: and Dwarves, Elves, Qunari.
Dwarves: and Humans, Elves, Qunari.
Elves: and Humans, Dwarves, Qunari.
Qunari: and Humans, Dwarves, Elves.
Anderfels: and Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Antiva: and Anderfels, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Fereldan: and Anderfels, Antiva, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Kirkwall: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Starkhaven: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Nevarra: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Orlais, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Orlais: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Rivain, Tevinter Imperium.
Rivain: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Tevinter Imperium.
Tevinter Imperium: and Anderfels, Antiva, Fereldan, Kirkwall, Starkhaven, Nevarra, Orlais, Rivain.
I understand if their isn't a explanation about the relationships between certain nations because of lack of information and thank you ahead of time for answering this question to the best of your ability(Hopefully!).
In Dragon Age, what are the relationships between the races/nations listed below and why do they like/dislike each other?
#1
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 07:27
#3
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 09:05
Seriously, that's a great deal from which to expect a lot of answers. Why not just read the DA Wiki, it is chock full of much of which you inquire.
Time constraints mainly. If I could I would but I figured since time isn't on my side I could take a minute or two of reading here (which would be a lot longer reading the wiki) to get my answer. I'm definitely a lazy piece of **** for asking a lot from everyone so sorry for asking.
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#4
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 09:16
Time constraints mainly. If I could I would but I figured since time isn't on my side I could take a minute or two of reading here (which would be a lot longer reading the wiki) to get my answer. I'm definitely a lazy piece of **** for asking a lot from everyone so sorry for asking.
Time constraints? Yet you'd have time to read what many of the most read gamers of the DA universe would post over a period of time, if they posted? You'd be just as constrained here as you'd be at the DA Wiki and since the lore is already available there and very accurate, you'd get the better of the info there as well.
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#5
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:08
I'd take that with a cup of salt.Time constraints? Yet you'd have time to read what many of the most read gamers of the DA universe would post over a period of time, if they posted? You'd be just as constrained here as you'd be at the DA Wiki and since the lore is already available there and very accurate, you'd get the better of the info there as well.
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And OP, relations are much more complex than that. At the current state of events, to my knowledge, the Tevinter Imperium wages war against the Qunari on Seheron, but the Qunari barely even pay them any mind. Other than that, most struggles in Thedas appear to be of an internal nature, as in, it's not about nations pitted against each other, but factions within or across those nations. Civil war in Orlais, conflict between the mages and templars, Grey Wardens doing ...something, elves rising up.
#6
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:21
Brief summary: The only racial tension is between humans and elves. Humans treat city elves like dirt, city elves resent this but every time they try to do something about it (rebel, object, try to improve their lot) it turns out badly for them. The Qunari have played on this and recruited a number of elf sleeper cells in various parts of Thedas against the time they may wish to invade. Dalish elves are isolationists and look down on city elves for not following their lead. They mistrust all humans. There are various interpretations on the events that led to the fall of the Dales depending on which side you consult. The Dalish maintain that it was aggressive missionaries from the Chantry that caused them to attack Orlais. Orlais claim that the elves refused to help them during the 2nd Blight and then took advantage of their weakness after it. The Chantry ordered an Exalted March on the unbelievers and conveniently overlooked that the Dales was a gift to the elves as a reward for their loyalty and help to Andraste's crusade. Chantry historians will acknowledge that without the aid of Shartan and his elves defecting from the Imperium (where they were slaves), the war could have ended very differently. City elves for the most part do follow the Chantry faith (apart from the Qunari defectors). Dalish worship their Creator gods, even though they acknowledge that they have not been around since before the fall of Arlathan. The Tevinter openly keep elves as slaves. The other nations actually treat them little better then slaves but are not honest enough to admit as much.
The dwarves don't really hate any of the other races. They are quite willing to do business with them, although for the most part this is the surface dwarves who have effectively exiled themselves to the surface. The dwarves do feel that the surfacers have no idea how much of a debt they owe to the dwarves for keeping the darkspawn at bay. The dwarves are very inward looking and traditional for the most part, although depending on who you supported in DAO this could be changing. They have their own culture and religion and feel that dwarves who have chosen to go to the surface are not really "of the Stone" any more.
The Qunari have a simple rule - you are either part of the Qun or you are not. If you refused to convert, you may be forcibly converted (brain washed). If you leave, you will be hunted down and killed. This is not based on race but religion/philosophical outlook. They managed to invade and occupy large parts of Thedas when they first arrived and it took the combined efforts of the other nations to push them back. In the end there was a sort of stale mate and a peace agreement was signed. This is respected by all nations but Tevinter, who did not agree to it and are therefore still at war with the Qunari. Whilst the Qunari do have mages, they treat them with great suspicion and keep them under strict control. They have very advanced technology but the only way anyone could really find out the true extent of their power would be to travel to Par Volen. It is unlikely they would be allowed anywhere of real importance unless they had converted to the Qun.
As for the relations that exist between nations, this varies according to who is in charge and how aggressive they are towards their neighbours.
Ferelden and Orlais are currently at peace but many Orlesians feel they should be trying to retake their old province and Ferelden is all too aware of this.
Orlais had designs on Nevarra but would probably need the backing of their neighbours in the Freemarches and Ferelden to do anything about it.
The Freemarches (in particular Starkhaven and Kirkwall) are currently independent city states but are strategically and economically important to their neighbours, so they keep a close eye on them.
The Anderfels are pretty much run by the Grey Wardens. It is said to have the most fanatically devout citizens to the cult of Andraste. Since large parts of it were devasted by the 1st Blight and never recovered and it is a barren and inhospitable country, no one outside of it is interested in changing the status quo.
Antiva is largely run by the crows so attempting to conquer it would likely get you assassinated.
Rivain is split between those people who follow Chantry rule and those who are still loyal to the Qun. They also have a devotion to their wise women, sort of hedge mages who impart their wisdom, having allowed themselves to be deliberately possessed by spirits. (Potentially very interested but only hearsay)
Tevinter is essentially opposed to every other nation since they are ruled by mages. Anyone who is not a mage is a lesser citizen and likely a slave. However, they are only officially at war with the Qunari. They also have an on going dispute with the White Chantry and thus are likely to be more suspicious of Orlais because of that. However, Orlais apparently has diplomatic ties as it does with the rest of Thedas.
On the whole, with the exception of the Qunari who may be just biding their time, there is an uneasy truce between all nations simply because no one nation is capable of challenging another. Now Orlais is at civil war, it may be that other nations take advantage of this or will simply be grateful for the respite that will allow them to built their own strength without fear of invasion.
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#7
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:23
Tevinter and Orlais have, over the past 1200 years and independent of each other, conquered or tried to conquer every other nation out there. Everyone hates them.
Tevinter embraces a splinter religion of mainstream Andrastiansm called the Imperial Chantry. Devout mainstream Andrastians (i.e. all other human nations) hate them for that.
Elves hate Tevinter for 1) destroying their original homeland and 2) enslaving them to this day.
Elves hate all other Andrastians for 1) destroying their second homeland, 2) making them the most oppressed group in human society, and 3) harrassing the Dalish.
The qunari spent the better part of a century trying to conquer all other nations and forcibly convert them to the Qun. Everyone hates them, with the possible exception of Rivain, which is home to the only qunari city outside Par Vollen and Seheron, Kont-ar.
The qunari claim to not understand the mindset of non-qunari, and fully intend to one day conquer and convert all Thedas.
The dwarves appear not to care about anyone else.
#8
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:30
okay heres a quick overview of the racial relations, I might do the nations at another time. Take all this with a pinch of salt because I might of got a few things wrong.
Humans: and Dwarves, Elves, Qunari.
Dwarves: varies from nation to nation. Tevinter has a fairly good relationship with them and most other Nations value them for trade. Commoners might have some prejudice because there small, different and easy to pick on.
Elves: Outright racism. Elves originally withdrew from humans (due to exposure to humans made the elves die naturally), humans viewed this as hostility (for some reason) and attacked, destroyed Elvhenan and their culture and enslaved the elves. Relations improved when the Elves were granted the dales for helping Andraste but then worsened substantially when the chantry declared an Exalted march on the dales due to the elves not helping the humans in the second blight and the elves raiding a town called red crossing (according to the humans) or the elves throwing chantry missionaries out of the dales (according to the elves).
Qunari: Distrust and sometimes hatred. In 6:32 the Qunari attacked the north of thedas leading to the first Qunari war. In total 3 exalted marches were launched against the Qunari. In 7:84 peace was made and the Qunari went back to Par-Vollen. Tevinter is still warring over Seheron with the Qunari so there is a lot of hatred between the two. In other parts of thedas due to the past wars with Qunari and the fact that the Chantry teaches that the QUn is "heretical" and evil, most humans view them with distrust and sometimes hatred.
Dwarves: and Humans, Elves, Qunari.
It is worth noting that most Dwaves see their race as "superior" to the other races.
Humans: Relatively positive. Orlais and particually Tevinter have relied on Orzimmar for trade, mainly the trade of lyrium. This has built fairly good relations with human nations. If Bhelen is made king then relations will likely improve while if Harrowmont is made king the dwarves will likely become more isolated.
Elves: The only major interaction I can find is when Cadash Thaig hid some Elves from Tevinter following the destruction of Arlathan. If I find out anything else I'll put it here
Qunari: Again not much inforamtion. The Qunari and Dwarves have had few interaction as far as I can tell.
Elves: and Humans, Dwarves, Qunari.
Humans: outright hatred. Believe it or not when you destroy someones culture, enslave them, treat them as animals and put them in alienages they tend to hate you.
Dwarves: As mentioned above I can't find much.
Qunari: Again I cant find much.
Qunari: and Humans, Dwarves, Elves.
All: Qunari basically see all "Bas" as the same and they will be treated the same if they join the Qun. Hey, they might oppress free will and Individualism but they sure aren't racist.
Hope this helps ![]()
#9
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:30
Tevinter and Orlais have, over the past 1200 years and independent of each other, conquered or tried to conquer every other nation out there. Everyone hates them.
Not true. What about the Dwarves?
#10
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 08:49
Dwarves like almost everybody. Including both Orlais and Tevinter.
#11
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 09:03
Dwarves and Tevinter have a very good relationship with one another, with the Tevinter capital Minrathous sporting a Dwarven embassy underground, meaning that any Dwarf sent there as Ambassador does not become a casteless surfacer, and retains rank and status in Dwarven society. Of all the human nations, the Dwarves seem closest to Tevinter.
#12
Posté 26 mai 2014 - 10:09
I'd answer all of that, but it would take hours just to write out the answers, much less think of them.
#13
Posté 27 mai 2014 - 03:31
Dwarves like almost everybody. Including both Orlais and Tevinter.
More accurately, they like their gold
#14
Posté 27 mai 2014 - 02:59
#15
Posté 27 mai 2014 - 04:43
Writing and hyping rivalries between kingdoms is all good but will we see a real implementation? Bioware hyped how Orlesian warden would be treated differently from the Hero of Ferelden in Awakening. Actually it was almost the same.





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