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[boodah83]

@ Cerv: I only see the stuff you guys release through the Q downloader (or did I miss a link to a WiP test folder somewhere?).

 

@ Psm: ...

[cervantes35]

Careful pstemarie there are alot of missing and half done or cheated wokmeshes. I did this back when we were NWN Enhanced was not really to great at tilesets this was my experimental stage. Then My ADHD kicked and left it alone for years and it became one of my many unfinished projects just lying around on my hard drive.

 

Glad you like it though.

 

Sorry thought you had access to our WIP folders. (Link below)

 

https://www.dropbox....li/city_ext.hak

[cervantes35]

So you didn't hak Pstemarie hard drive to figure out all the stuff he was working on. Save me one of those brownies I might just need it.

[boodah83]

Thanks!

 

Don't worry, there'll be always some brownies for you, your piglet-mommy-eating homie ( ) and all the other NWN dudes reserved in my stash.

[Pstemarie]

@ Cerv: I only see the stuff you guys release through the Q downloader (or did I miss a link to a WiP test folder somewhere?).

 

@ Psm: ...

 

Still pulling the test hak together.

[MannyJabrielle]

I just noticed that some of the newer creature additions do not show up when the q_!Armoury.hak is attached since they don't seem to be added to the appearance.2da in that hak.

[cervantes35]

I just noticed that some of the newer creature additions do not show up when the q_!Armoury.hak is attached since they don't seem to be added to the appearance.2da in that hak.

 

Man that armory appearance 2DA is going to be the death of us do have a list of critters off-hand?

 

I posted a link to my city_ext hak for boodah to get an idea of what might be in store in the future. You know how he likes to play with new toys. Besides I'm looking forward to his feedback give me a general idea if people will like it.

[MannyJabrielle]

Offhand, it looks like:

vampire captain male 2

vampire spawn

the two female lichs

retirever

vargoile

the skeleton pirates

monitor lizards

 

That list I got from comparing the appearances in the tails list to the appearances list (they're all at the bottom of the list).  I haven't compared the two appearance 2da's to each other yet to see if any newer creatures didn't make it into both the armoury appearance and the tail-model's list.

[cervantes35]

When was the last time you updated all the appearances listed show up for me. If you run updater and the problem isn't fixed try running the force updater  Pstemarire put up on the vault and see if that cures the problem.

 

They are all in the dropdown list but have no UTC yet so they will not appear on the pallette.

[MannyJabrielle]

Ran it just an hour ago.

I'll get the forced updater, give that a go and report back after running it.

[boodah83]

Yeah, I think you'll have to run the forced updater to get the q_!armory hak updated if only the appearance.2da changed.

 

I really love the city reskin with all the new stuff added (i think I already had the chance to play around with an older version of this in the good, old NWNE times) and it fits perfectly with the other Q tilesets (especially when you'll combine it with the Q foliage trees from PSM's NWNE city reskin)! Graveyard terrain, the monestary and the walkable Castle roofs are still my favorites (besides the alleys for boodah-style shady dealings, of course).

 

But you know how I operate, so here is a list of a few things I noticed so far:

 

barbican - not possible to paint winkles yet

building poor - not possible to paint alley crosser yet

building burned 2x1, Group house 1 - 10 (except 5 and 8), arena 9x9, plaza 2x2, pool holy 2x2, all the ships, Tower Ruined, Tower Wizard, building artisan shop, building burned, building destroyed 2, plaza 1 & 2, portal, streetlight, water/dock/bridge low - still old textures

Gate, City 2x2; State Building, Ruined 2x3 - partially still old textures

monastery door, main - door missing

[henesua]

Noticed some wokmesh bugs in the reskin of zwerk's caves while running around in one of my areas. Can't recall which tile it was. One of the cave tiles though, not a corridor. Could have been tdm01_a02_02. Could have been a04_04. Not really sure. Might not be either. I was running aorund one of my own caves but got turned around when attacked by goblins.

[Pstemarie]

I just noticed that some of the newer creature additions do not show up when the q_!Armoury.hak is attached since they don't seem to be added to the appearance.2da in that hak.

 

There is no appearance.2da in q_!armoury - you must mean q_!fightingsfx. I just ran the two appearance.2da files through my compare tool - all appearances are listed.

[Pstemarie]

Ok, I've got all the tiles renamed and bashed together into one hak. I've started remapping the stonework and stucco on the buildings to the same scale as what's in the TNO tileset - makes a better visual transition between the two. I've also got a new dirty cobble texture for the cobble streets made from the texture in the Wyvern Crown tileset. Doesn't look too bad when tiled and is a nice contrast from the sidewalks.

[Rolo Kipp]

<pretending to look...>

 

Don't worry, there'll be always some brownies for you, your piglet-mommy-eating homie ( ) and all the other NWN dudes reserved in my stash.

Hey! Brownies aren't anywhere near as obnoxious as gnomes! Leave them alone! @_@

 

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[MannyJabrielle]

There is no appearance.2da in q_!armoury - you must mean q_!fightingsfx. I just ran the two appearance.2da files through my compare tool - all appearances are listed.

Yes, my bad, the !fighting, not !armoury.

DL'ed and ran the forced updater last night.  Everything is working as meant to now

(now to re-do my module's appearance 2da.. again )

[Pstemarie]

The default update looks at the file size of the log file for each folder in the /Q_Updater/Q folder to determine if it needs to repack that particular hak; thus, small changes don't always trigger the packing routine. The Force_Updater.BAT has the file size trigger set to 20 bytes so it will trigger on the creation of the log file.

[MannyJabrielle]

Ah, ok.  That makes sense.  I didn't know how the updater was checking what files to update.

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Some tileset issues:

 

Tile TCN01_B02, when my PC (or any other creature) walks into that tile, they get stuck and can't walk out of it.  Not sure why.  I have had that happen with other city-reskins/remakes of the city that use that tile although I can't recall it happening with the default city tileset.  In the editor, the tile is I believe the "boathouse" feature tile.

 

For the expanded/reskined mines/caverns, I found a funky tile, td01_a02.  In-game, any creature walking onto that tile gets lifted up into the air.  In the toolset, when I try to put any placeables on that tile, they got shot down to lower left corner of the area.

Following is a screenshot to show what I'm trying to explain.  The red "floor design" arrows are placed at the two corners just outside the red grid line showing where each specific tile's area starts.

 

 

 

 

(edit: For reference, forced-bat update saturday night, tiles behave like this in premade modules such as the OC where the area was made with default NWN tilesets and Q attached afterwards, and in areas made with the Q haks attached prior to creating the area.)

[henesua]

Yup. with the mines, thats a WOK issue, Manny. And you narrowed down the tile for us. Its the same problem I mentioned above.

 

Sounds like the issue with the city exterior is also a WOK mesh problem.

[cervantes35]

They are both wokmesh issues but the city exterior we had nothing to do with that tile but its a good heads up since we are putting together a new city exterior tileset.

[cervantes35]

Well maybe we did redo the city exterior tile I see it in the project q tileset hak I'll give it a look as well.

[MannyJabrielle]

Are you sure about Q not editing that one?  I found the tilename my locating the tile in one of the Q haks using nwnexplorer...  (edit: ah, looks like you found the same tile in the hak as well)

 

Is the wok mesh thing easy to fix?  I got the same issue with a non-replacing version of the city exterior using FP's almraiven textures that I put together... I'm at that "let's see what happens when I push this button" level of n00bness when it comes to tilesets so I'm not certain how to go about fixing it

[cervantes35]

Actually I'm not seeing a problem in 3ds max with the tcn01_b02_02 wokmesh let me see if there is a pathnoding problem in the set.

[cervantes35]

Tile tdm01_a02_02 which is the cave tile you are showing in the picture has no wokmesh data in the model file. I believe this happen to pstemarie on another tile in the caves as well an export glitch with max plus.

 

Fixed in my staged folder

[Pstemarie]

Tile tdm01_a02_02 which is the cave tile you are showing in the picture has no wokmesh data in the model file. I believe this happen to pstemarie on another tile in the caves as well an export glitch with max plus.

 

Fixed in my staged folder

 

Not a Max issue with this one - it was compiled outside of Max using compDcomp. The fix is on the server now. I'm going to run the entire set of tiles through CM3 and see what happens.