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[Crunchycarp]

there won't be change with such corruption as celene will cause she will die and change nothing in orlais well perhaps she will change few laws but it won't in reality change nothing as no one cares about law in orlais it is like with no blood magic in tevinter as long you won't crush corruption and celene is not only too weak to crush it but also promotes it. Gaspard is guy who can crush corruption and probably will however that doesn't mean better life for elves or pesants or for anyone else but after gaspard death person in charge will have greater chance to change things as corruption will be cleaned and peoples in orlais will have much more respect for laws.Under Celene rule laws won't matter due corruption she promotes.
 
Chaos is good to destroy current order/system if it is bad celene promotes current corrupted system and only talk about her changes.Reason why i don't want support any of them that i would want destroy orlais or at least crush current system in may way and replace it with better.

Who knows how they have changed since The Masked Empire, we will have to wait and see who is the best choice. I am still waiting to take sides but I am leaning towards Celene. Gaspard does show to be a good leader but he seem to aggressive for my liking.

[Mistic]

I think a case could be made that none of the Orlesian Three are quite what their supporters would like them to be. There's a bit of overstatement by the fans to all of them, exagerating what is there into something that isn't.

 

Agreed. There's a lot of projection and wishes from the fans about the candidates, not unlike real life situations with politicians and their promises. Are you sure the candidate you are supporting is all those things you say? Are you even sure he or she said that?

 

Not to talk about having only the books as references. I mean, if you only knew about the books, Loghain was this passionate commoner who fought for his country, restored the rightful king, became one of the most respected heroes in Ferelden, was the voice of reason or at least pragmatism, and TME reveals that his fears about Orlais wanting to have Ferelden again (even if it was in a peaceful way) weren't far-fetched.

 

And all of that was true, but in DA:O he became the single, greatest obstacle against the Wardens saving the world barring the darkspawn themselves. So who's to say the same won't happen in DA:I? In the end, I guess that the one who helps the Inquisitor the most will be more liked by the players. And you know what? It wouldn't be a bad judgement, because the Inquisitor is the one trying to stop the end of the world. No matter your cause, if you can't see that saving the world (including you and your people) should be your top priority, you're not fit to rule a country.

[Helios969]

Are we in fact going to determine who will rule Orlais?

[Crunchycarp]

Are we in fact going to determine who will rule Orlais?

Not officially confirmed if we will, but it never hurts to discuss who we want to rule.

[Celtic Latino]

Strongly depends on my Inquisitor.

 

My elf-first Dalish Rift Mage will support Briala and the elves. Celene may have her sympathies but she's a player of the Grand Game first and foremost, and as far as Gaspard goes, a Dalish cares little for human wars and wouldn't want to see them with any more power than they already wield.

 

My pragmatic, conservative Human Knight Enchanter will probably align with Gaspard. I plan on my Human Knight Enchanter being pro-Circle and believing there is a reason for mages to be kept in check, so having a strong, fortified army with steel will be the first thing on his/her mind. That is, if the human mage is a Circle mage. If he/she is an apostate, then it will probably be a Qunari Knight Enchanter instead, given the Qunari's tendencies towards pragmatism and conservative nature.

 

My diplomatic Human/Dwarven Assassin will put Celene on the throne. This character will be less polarized and be more open to diplomatic relations and trade versus taking stances. Celene is progressive, much like Bhelen, and to this Inquisitor having a more progressive change in society is what Thedas needs the most.

[rubynorman]

Celene, she learned that one must play the Game well to be alive in Orlais when she was a child, she did some shitty thing but she still has a heart and she is interested in peace, knowledge, art. She needs to be ready to change thing around if she wants Orlair to improve its status. While Gaspard is some what honorable but he still plays the game, aggressive and he's ready to do dirty thing like a hunting accident, ambushing Celene's champion, lying and all that. He intends to go to war with other countries and the Elf's fate won't be changed if he's the ruler.

[Cylan Cooper]

While I know it won't be an option, I chose Elves.

 

And Gaspard was my choice for who I definitely don't want.

Hah. We voted opposite. Does this make me a bad person?

[General TSAR]

Because the opinion of a bunch of lyrium addicts and religious fanatics know what sanity is...

Your signature says it all. 

 

Also I don't recall asking your opinion on the matter.

[General TSAR]

Double post

[themikefest]

Let Leliana rule.

[Crunchycarp]

Let Leliana rule.

Everyone in Orlais is now required to own a pet Nug.

[Mistic]

Everyone in Orlais is now required to own a pet Nug.

 

Not a bad idea in case of famine. All hail Empress Leliana!

[TK514]

Of the three, I find Gaspard the least objectionable, so I'd put him on the throne if marrying him to Celene for co-rulership isn't an option.

 

If the Elves went extinct due to falling in love with humans and interbreeding, I wouldn't miss them.

[DRTJR]

I will always be pro elf, city elf to be specific, while there idea of weakening Orlais until it falls is a bad idea.

With Gaspard it feels like if he makes a promise to the Elves then he will follow through with it. Celene feels like if it helps her keep the throne she'd let every elf die.

[Crunchycarp]

I will always be pro elf, city elf to be specific, while there idea of weakening Orlais until it falls is a bad idea.
With Gaspard it feels like if he makes a promise to the Elves then he will follow through with it. Celene feels like if it helps her keep the throne she'd let every elf die.

Actually it's the other way around. Celene is the one who cares for the elves. Gaspard doesn't care for them at all. Plus Celene has to keep a promise she made with Briala, even if it is slowly.

[ladyofpayne]

 

 

Celene is the one who cares for the elves. 

Because of Briala.

[DRTJR]

Actually it's the other way around. Celene is the one who cares for the elves. Gaspard doesn't care for them at all. Plus Celene has to keep a promise she made with Briala, even if it is slowly.

But he does care for the subjects of Orlais, of which some are Elves. And if the Elves agree to some kind of thingy then I will put more faith in Gaspard's word than Celene.

[Ajna]

If I really cared for elves I certainly wouldn't go and slaughter a shedload of them to try and prove to a bunch of snobby nobles that I didn't like them that much...

 

To say that she cares for elves is laughable.  Everything she's done, she's done for herself.

[Crunchycarp]

If I really cared for elves I certainly wouldn't go and slaughter a shedload of them to try and prove to a bunch of snobby nobles that I didn't like them that much...

To say that she cares for elves is laughable. Everything she's done, she's done for herself.

She's let them in the university, was that for her own personal gain? Plus, would you let people burn one of your city to the ground if you were a ruler? She did what she had to do to keep her Country safe.

[Ajna]

She's let them in the university, was that for her own personal gain? Plus, would you let people burn one of your city's to the ground if you were a ruler? She did what she had to do to keep her Country safe.

It was for her own personal gain because she did it for Briala.  Everything she's done for the elves has been for Briala.  She did not, she did what she had to do to keep her throne! 

[Exaltation]

For me anyone that Morrigan isn't working for is safe lol.

The Inquisitor shall rule all of Thedas!

[Crunchycarp]

It was for her own personal gain because she did it for Briala.  Everything she's done for the elves has been for Briala.  She did not, she did what she had to do to keep her throne!

Yes, it was because of Briala but everyone has be influenced by someone. All I'm saying is that the Elves and Orlais have a better chance at survival if Celene stays on the throne. Gaspard will bring order but he will cause an unneeded war with Fereldan. Celene's done amazingly so far.

[Ajna]

Yes, it was because of Briala but everyone has be influenced by someone. All I'm saying is that the Elves and Orlais have a better chance at survival if Celene stays on the throne. Gaspard will bring order but he will cause an unneeded war with Fereldan. Celene's done amazingly so far.

If he's not changed by the events of TME, yes, but most people have already said that if his intentions are still Ferelden then he can go shove it.  I was one of them, I won't deliver Ferelden into the hands of Orlais. But we don't know how any of this will pan out yet.  I really really don't want to be dragged into Orlesian politics.

 

She has the blood of Briala's parents on her hands, and that was for her throne, how much guilt is she harbouring from that do you think?  I don't trust Celene anymore.  I suppose it all comes down to...wait and see.

[Crunchycarp]

If he's not changed by the events of TME, yes, but most people have already said that if his intentions are still Ferelden then he can go shove it.  I was one of them, I won't deliver Ferelden into the hands of Orlais. But we don't know how any of this will pan out yet.  I really really don't want to be dragged into Orlesian politics.
 
She has the blood of Briala's parents on her hands, and that was for her throne, how much guilt is she harbouring from that do you think?  I don't trust Celene anymore.  I suppose it all comes down to...wait and see.

Agreed, we will have to wait and see. If I were her I would be so stressed out all the time.

[ladyofpayne]

Except for the begiining he din't remember Ferelden. That mean- he has no need of it. He wanted Ferelden, yes but now he has serious problems.