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Is the release date bad timing on EA/Bioware's part?


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It's pretty crowded and we still don't know what will show up at E3 either. My priority is Shadows of Mordor. After DA2 and ME3 Bioware have a lot to prove to me.Since the price of both DA2 and ME3 had halved within a couple of weeks here I feel no real urge to be there on day 1. 



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While Batman:Arkham Knight and Middle earth:Shadows of Mordor are releasing within one week of it, I'm sure there will be some people who might have to decide on just one game out of the three to get. Luckly That won't be my problem due to pre-orders allowing me to pay all three off before they come out. Another game you might want to think about is Far cry 4 coming out the following November. It isn't a RPG,but it is a big name game that some people who don't only just play rpgs might decide is worth waiting for instead of getting DA:I. I do wish Dragon age inquistion the best of luck becuase I want it to be a success so that they will create DLC and Expansion packs for it.



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I'm not interested in any of those games, I'm quite particular about my RPG's and I know DA:I will provide what I need....choice.


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No matter how much Dragon age will suck I will never choose batman



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Pretty much. Budgets and such are not as big a concern, because debt and Christmas go together like peas and carrots.

 

 

is it a bad I caught myself nodding when I read this?


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AkiKishi

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While Batman:Arkham Knight and Middle earth:Shadows of Mordor are releasing within one week of it, I'm sure there will be some people who might have to decide on just one game out of the three to get. Luckly That won't be my problem due to pre-orders allowing me to pay all three off before they come out. Another game you might want to think about is Far cry 4 coming out the following November. It isn't a RPG,but it is a big name game that some people who don't only just play rpgs might decide is worth waiting for instead of getting DA:I. I do wish Dragon age inquistion the best of luck becuase I want it to be a success so that they will create DLC and Expansion packs for it.

 

How invested people still are in Destiny could also be an issue. Very different games, but Destiny is a huge time sink. There's always something though, so you just roll the dice and hope for the best. I get the feeling that while people on the boards will call the game a success EA won't be quite so happy. 



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It isn't at any more of a disadvantage than it would be if released any other time, actually is probably in a slightly better position in October I think. In September there's Destiny and NHL as big hitters - and also a fair few RPG'ers (such as myself) might still be pretty deep into Wasteland 2 throughout September (that game is due out in August). It's also important that Bio doesn't release the game before it's done. A buggy, broken game released a month too early won't exactly regain any of the goodwill they may have lost in recent years. In October there's no big 'CRPG' competition, so that particular field is clear, Bio can dominate the CRPG market. I'm interested in Arkham Knight and Alien: Isolation and will probably get them also - but as a CRPG fan primarily, Inquisition is the favourite for me.

 

Then in December (supposedly) there's PoE - very direct competition to DA:I for many. Honestly, this is the one that would give me pause if I could only get one game and hadn't already effectively 'bought' my copy of Eternity through Kickstarter. 



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I think the most important thing is that they're getting the game out before The Witcher 3 and, to a lesser extent, Pillars of Eternity.

 

Single player fantasy CRPGs have been thin on the ground this year - the only other one I can think of is Bound By Flame, which just came out to mixed reviews. Shadows of Mordor looks more like an Assassin's Creed game than a traditional RPG, so while there might be some overlap in audience there I think the people who are keen on fantasy CRPGs in general will be more inclined to pick up Inquisition.

 

For people who aren't invested in the genre, good reviews and word of mouth may be more important than the exact release day.


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I'm still expecting it to get delayed to the following March, the last few Bioware releases came out around then.

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I don't think they care what other games come out around that time. It's not like buying games is a mutually exclusive practice. 



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I think the most important thing is that they're getting the game out before The Witcher 3 and, to a lesser extent, Pillars of Eternity.

 

This.

Since there were zero good RPG for a few years, even poor people from poor countries can store some money to buy 2 or 3 games this fall.

personaly I will buy DAI and PoE.

 

Witcher? Nah, can't play old male. Too far for my own personality.



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It's not bad timing. No matter when they release the game there will be other games releasing around the same time as well, and it still won't matter.

 

In fact, maybe it's bad timing for those other games because Inquisition is gonna rock!



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personaly, I'm really looking forward to Pillars of Eternity (for various reasons: crowd funding - i am a fan and i want to contribute, the idea is just beautiful, i love Obsidian and old-school RPGs, would be more happy if it was cyberpunk or whatever, but i'm not that picky).

 

as for DA:I and bad timing... i don't think it's relevant. i'm upgrading my PC just to play the damn game, few of my friends have already preordered it (i'm still undecided on editions). good RPG is a good RPG, if a person likes shooting things, he/she won't buy this kind of game anyway.



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You're always going to be competing against some other product when releasing a game.

 

Better that DA:I goes up against Batman and LOTR than Dark Souls 2, for example.



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I think it's a pretty good release date window. There will always be competition but you do realise you don't HAVE to buy a game the minute it's released (right?)...So even if someone wants to play one of the other games first, that doesn't mean they won't buy DAI later or vice versa.



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I don't know what the financial situation is over at EA/Bioware, it could be good or it could be bad, but I'm guessing there's a big budget behind this game and EA will want it to be a major success. Probably needing to sell at least a few million copies. If this is the case, then is October 7 really the best time?

 

When Dragon Age: Inquisition is released, we got Alien: Isolation, LoTR: Shadows of Mordor, and Drive Club being released that same day. If that's not enough we have a colossal hitter coming out the very next week called Batman: Arkham Knight. The other problem to consider is that Bioware has a bit of an uphill battle to climb here. I'm sure some of you loved Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3, but let's be honest, a lot of people didn't. There's gonna be some people out there who don't have a lot of money that are gonna choose between DA:I and Batman: AK.

 

The way I see it, I think DA:I is at a disadvantage here to do very well commercially. If you look at the past few years, DA2 and ME3 released without any real competition. I'm making this thread cause I'm a bit concerned about the success of DA:I. If the game is good then I want it to do well so we can keep getting more games from Bioware.

EA is a huge corporation. I doubt they just blindly pulled a release date from a hat.

Of course they would consider the implications of other games also being released around the same time. 

Let them take care of that. Do your part and buy the game.



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I just learned there is no romances in Pillars of Eternity. Means no real competiton for awesome bioware games full of emotions and roleplay.


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Also, I feel obligated to point out that "Dislike" for Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 comes from a small vocal group, easily less than 0.01% of the people who bought it. To the rest, those games are above-average to Excellent titles that successfully carry the franchise forward.

You don't know either way. There could be widespread disappointment and we wouldn't know because people were silent. At least DA2's flaws were very much visible for any player, even though different players attached different importance to them. ME3 was more of a case where you were more disappointed the more you were invested in the story and the more you knew about the world, so it could've been mainly a fan thing. Even so, 98% disappointment in the ending among the core fans, as in the first big poll with 80k participants (which is, btw, already more like 1% of the people who bought it rather than 0.01%), that is indicative of *something*. 

 

Anyway, I'm sure the EA people have thought long and hard about when to release DAI. They may have made a mistake or not, but I'm absolutely not qualified to make a judgment about DAI's release date. I'm hoping for the best: about DAI's technical and artistic quality, about its appeal to me as a story, and about its success. The pre-release time of ME3 was filled with trepidation for me, and man, did that turn out to be justified. I'm feeling none of that now.



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Where exactly are you getting that number?


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Depending on how good Destiny is, there is the possibility I could delay playing this.  Still it wont harm a sale to me as I have it pre-ordered.



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If anything, I would think Diablo 3 might be the biggest RPG competition for DAI this fall, and that certainly isn't saying much considering it is a 2011 game being re-released on 2 consoles with the smallest user bases (ps4/xbox one). 

Yeah but that gets released in August already, so no problems there.

 

Hardly. The real contender was delayed to next year.

I agree, though I wonder who was more relieved that these games do not go against each other now... probably both parties equally, lol.

 

What I REALLY wonder about though is why so many games have their launch at the same exact day? I mean I get why it's the 7th and not the 8th or 9th because games are released on Tuesdays (in the US, that is). But why did all these games pick the same Tuesday in October, with only Batman missing the mark by one week? Coincidence? :D



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People should calm the **** down. Really. 



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It's pretty crowded and we still don't know what will show up at E3 either. My priority is Shadows of Mordor. After DA2 and ME3 Bioware have a lot to prove to me.Since the price of both DA2 and ME3 had halved within a couple of weeks here I feel no real urge to be there on day 1. 

 

Really your priority is Shadows of Mordor? I don't think I've ever played a good LOTR game, they either butcher the lore or hang it loosely over a game with poor gameplay and graphics.

 

As much as I liked Batman:Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, I never actually managed to finish either of them as I spent my time being a stealthy predator Batman, doing silent takedowns and then the last boss could only be defeated using direct combat - which I stucked at, so as cool as Arkham Knight looks, it is second to DA:I.



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Wait, WTF? While I agree it is trendy to hate on Bioware/EA and there are a lot of bandwagon haters, what the hell would JE have to do with that? JE is a masterpiece, it might be Bioware's best game ever. I mean, that is universally accepted as a fact, right?

 

I wouldn't say its their "best game ever", but  its probably the most requested sequel at this point and I think there are a lot of people that consider Baldur's Gate series to be BioWare's best.

 

My issue with Jade Empire is a lot like the one I had with Mass Effect 3, a good portion of the game feels great and then after a certain point it feels like they ran out of time.  Its been a few years since I played Jade Empire since my Xbox died, but after the first three chapters the game takes a drastically different feel where to me what made the first half of the game great is just gone and it becomes a generic game.

 

Edit:

 

Just to be clear for I realized my mistake, I am not trying to say Jade Empire is a bad game even though I give that impression.  I am just trying to say that BioWare has had issues in most of their games in the past, it just seems that people focus mostly on Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 while making it seems that EA makes them make a bad game, where they have had issues long before EA was part of the equation.


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Only game you mentioned I probably buy LoTR: Shadows of Mordor, and maybe Batman but only -75%. I preorder DA:I as soon as my retailer have it.